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Title: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Jaxter on June 04, 2011, 09:07:37 pm
When I ride I try to wave at every motorcycle I see on the road. I have made this a part of my rides, it is my personal form of entertainment during my rides. I have noticed that not everyone returns the wave. When I wave I make a loose fist and point with 2 fingers towards the oncoming riders front wheel. I also noticed have that there are several forms of return waves, some just raise their fingers without ever removing their hand from the handlebar, some wave straight out to the side, some raise a hand up, some do like me and put their hand down and out...most interesting is the people hwo refuse to return the wave...this amuses me the most. I have noticed that if it is a large pack of Harleys that the leader (probably the alpha of the pack) will seldom wave, but the last in line most likely will (probably hopes that none in front of him notice). The most perplexing for me is when passing a large group of riders, do I do a wave for each rider...I finally adopted the technique of one long continuous wave till they are all past me...I live in the Pacific Northwest and I was able to ride most of the winter and spring and during the cold weather riding I noticed that everyone regardless of M/C type returned my waves...interesting, I guess the snobs are a bunch of candya** fairweather riders. I am curious to know how others feel about this topic, and your experiences???
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 04, 2011, 09:32:11 pm
I wave at just about anybody not in a cage. I wave at runners.

And I CERTAINLY return any wave I get, clutch permitting.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Gsun on June 04, 2011, 10:12:52 pm
I wave sometimes. I always return a wave if there is time. Some roads have so many bikes that it gets to be too much and I would rather concentrate on the ride. Harleys never wave at metric bikes, but after they pass me I notice they will wave at other Harleys.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 04, 2011, 10:39:36 pm
I wave sometimes. I always return a wave if there is time. Some roads have so many bikes that it gets to be too much and I would rather concentrate on the ride. Harleys never wave at metric bikes, but after they pass me I notice they will wave at other Harleys.

When I rode a Harley, I still waved at everything. Of course, I don't ride a Harley anymore, do I?
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: F-106 on June 04, 2011, 11:19:57 pm
Interesting post and findings. I live in california so we can ride most of the year. I find more riders wave in the summer than in the colder months. I always do my best to return a wave by waving or turning my head to the rider and nodding my head if I am braking or shifting. This lets him or her know I saw the wave. A friend was following me in a car going to an event last summer. He told me when we arrived how he thought it was funning that when I passed another bike we waved at each other. He said " Do you guys always do that? " I said that we do for the most part.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Tom J. on June 05, 2011, 12:11:55 am
I have found that riding a 'jap' bike (and damn proud of it!!!) gets me less frequent 'cordial' waves from both harley and bmw riders alike.  Just who do these freeeekin guys think they are?!?!?!?   Hey, it's not MY fault if I spent HALF the money and got TWICE the bike you did!!!  I'm SOOOO glad I'm not an IDIOT!!!!!   :P
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 05, 2011, 12:36:28 am
<snip>  Just who do these freeeekin guys think they are?!?!?!?   Hey, it's not MY fault if I spent HALF the money and got TWICE the bike you did!!!  I'm SOOOO glad I'm not an IDIOT!!!!!   :P

I know you're joking. That said...

I know that before I bought my Connie, there was a time when I would not even consider riding a bike not made in America. I listened to ALOT of my friends who rode sport bikes and metric cruisers both tell me this same thing. Not everybody is like me, waving at anything that might wave back. A lot Harley riders won't wave at sport bike riders (or anyone else, really) because "they're all little arrogant punks".

Harley's and Harley riders get alot of flak from riders of other brands, mostly for being "cliquish" and "riding outdated bikes that don't perform well". In the Harley/Cruiser world, sport bike riders get flak for riding bikes "that don't make sense on beat up roads with 60mph speed limits" and being "disrespectful and stupid/dangerous".

I don't really have a point. I was trying to get to one, but it just got more diffuse and less coherent as it went on. I... whatever.

Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Bob on June 05, 2011, 05:29:31 am
 I wave at anything on two or three wheels. And that includes scooters. They're in the wind and in possible harms way as well. So IMO they deserve my two seconds to wave to them. It probably gives them a big smile knowing that they have kind of made it!  ;D
 Now I find that people returning waves vary. All brands have people that do not wave. Any it also varies depending on which bike I'm on. I by far get the most waves when I'm on the Mean Streak. But less when on the sport tours. The Harley guys tend to wave the least. And less when I'm on the Sport tour.  But probably half of them still wave!
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Corpssgt on June 05, 2011, 05:38:09 am
I used to wave at everyone.  I've been having some temper issues lately so I quit waving so I wouldn't get mad at people that didn't return it.  Last year while on a ride with a buddy on a cruiser I was leading and couldn't get any cruisers to wave back.  I would watch them all wave at him though.  I assumed they just couldn't see me so I adopted the hold my hand up over my head and give a full wave to all of them.  My buddy said they started waving back at me but only with one finger.  I will always wave back but I never initiate anymore.  It keeps me from getting mad at people.  I wave at scooters all the time of course when I realise they are scooters I call myself names.   ;D
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: booger on June 05, 2011, 06:50:06 am
I wave at all two/ three wheelers because that's potentially my friend that's going to assist me on the side of the road.  And vice versa.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 05, 2011, 08:15:55 am
The Motorcycle Wave - The Solution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7tBHoq49RU#)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: B.D.F. on June 05, 2011, 08:21:11 am
Yeah but if you got new glasses Bob, you'd find that about 1/4 of those 'scooters' were really sheep.

 ;D

Brian


I wave at anything on two or three wheels. And that includes scooters.

<snip>


Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Bob on June 05, 2011, 08:23:58 am
Yeah but if you got new glasses Bob, you'd find that about 1/4 of those 'scooters' were really sheep.

 ;D

Brian


Well that would explain how they new my name! Baaaaaaaaaab!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Summit670 on June 05, 2011, 08:55:31 am
Conrad, that's a funny video.

I generally wave or nod but lots of variables may preclude either - traffic, sun in eyes, road condition, turns, intersections, etc.

I notice the scooter riders are more apt not to wave.  Are we supposed to wave at them?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Jet on June 05, 2011, 09:14:38 am
I have found that most of the time a lot of bikers here wave, when I ride to Northern VA I have found the Harley Riders are a little more snobbish about waving. 
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: fartymarty on June 05, 2011, 09:46:27 am
I don't really have a point. I was trying to get to one, but it just got more diffuse and less coherent as it went on. I... whatever.
Welcome to my world.  :)

I have noticed some lack of waving by Harley riders in the city but the return waves seem to increase in rural areas. It seems to me that
the chances of a Harley rider returning/initiating a wave go up if he is wearing a helmet and go down with a do rag or shaved bald, anybody
else notice that?

When my brother-in-law and I were riding in Big Bend Nat'l Park on Honda Trail 90s with Chinese clone engines, every single bike (mostly cruisers
and at least half of those were Harleys) waved back, that sorta surprised me. Maybe the proximity of urban centers is a factor?

If I see them in time, I wave at all 2 & 3 wheeled bikes including Beemers, Harleys, and scooters.

I don't seem to have a consistent plan when overtaking or being over taken wave, somtimes a helmet nod sometimes a cross body wave, I need to
work on that I guess...I..whatever.

Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: sherob on June 05, 2011, 09:57:49 am
When I do wave, I usually point at ya... "I saw you!'.  I've been caught off guard the last few days... I've had several Vtwin riders wave at me for no good reason... LOL!!!  Must be the nice weather... but it put a smile on my face.  8) 
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: B.D.F. on June 05, 2011, 10:00:50 am
They are not saying 'Baaaaaaaaaaab!, they are saying Daaaaaaaaaaaad? :o

Brian




Well that would explain how they new my name! Baaaaaaaaaab!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Jaxter on June 05, 2011, 11:29:00 am
I told my wife that the reason the Harley guys don't always return waves is because the bike is vibrating so bad it might be a dangerous thing to remove one hand while moving...ever notice how all of the taverns have a bunch of Harley's parked out front, I guess that's as far as they could go before the vibrations got to them...then off to the next tavern
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: valkmc on June 05, 2011, 11:55:00 am
I find it interesting that almost everyone waved at me on my Valkyrie but mostly only sport bikes wave at the C14. I wave most of the time but not all of the time. If I am thinking about something else I don't  worry about it. I do try to return a wave to everyone who waves at me.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: sherob on June 05, 2011, 12:17:17 pm
When I have my 13 y/o daughter riding with me, she waves at everybody... and I mean WAVES  :hail:  It is so funny watching those "I ain't goin to wave at that jap bike!" guys when they see her waving at them... her all dressed up in aggressive pink!  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: mikeboileau on June 05, 2011, 12:28:16 pm
I will always return a wave or head nod.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Ron Dawg on June 05, 2011, 05:59:14 pm
I usually wave unless I need both hands at the moment. I rode the Cherohala Skyway a couple of weeks ago and almost everyone waved except BMW riders (almost none) and any Harley rider who had tassels on his handlebars. (Do the tassels mean they still need both hands all the time?
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: shreveportSS on June 05, 2011, 06:51:46 pm
I wave all the time. If they wave back, cool, if not, that is cool too. It is their issue, not mine. I just make sure I'm not the dick. ;)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: eddiememphis on June 05, 2011, 09:46:40 pm
I used to wave, just a left hand straight up an inch or so off the grip. Most of the responses tended to be strangled. I think they are confused. I ride a red BMW 650 with knobby tires. I wear a yellow helmet and black jacket and brown pants and EMT boots.

Since I don't have a "real" BMW, the Beemer crowd is confused. Cruiser guys usually give the down low wave but I'm not sure if they are flicking their butts or stretching or waving, since they rarely make eye contact. Big tourers wave or adjust the XM antenna, I can't tell. Connies, STs, FJRs- that crowd are the constant wavers. They also are the ones that will turn around and ask if I am okay when really I'm waiting for traffic to thin so I can pee. Or take a picture. Or both.

And of course, women riders wave at everyone.

There is also confusion since I don't wear "the uniform". No one piece Aerostich. No chaps and vest. I'm poor. And cheap. A lethal combination. I wear what I have and spend my money on important things. Like whores and cocaine.

The only riders that see me, and get it, are my fellow CARs*, the KLR guys. They smile and wave enthusiastically.

These days, I care less about other riders waving and more about awful traffic so I do the turn and nod.  But I will return a wave if I get one.









*CAR- cheapass rider
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: potshotpanda on June 05, 2011, 09:59:10 pm
I wave all the time. If they wave back, cool, if not, that is cool too. It is their issue, not mine. I just make sure I'm not the dick. ;)

+1   It's their problem if they don't wave back, not mine.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: MizzouMike on June 06, 2011, 09:08:09 am
I wave at everyone too!  I really like when you wave at a scooter, and they wave back.

I will say that when I ride my Yamaha (HD look alike)  I get alot more cruiser wave firsts, and when on the C-10, more sport bike wave firsts.

I always point at other Connies....  C-10 and C-14(althought I don't spot those as early).  I also will ussualy slow down for C-10's  too.  I even wave to C-10s when I am standing outside, or in my cage....

I guess I am just wierd  :o
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Kazairl on June 06, 2011, 09:32:58 am
I come from a part of the country where everybody waves at everybody. And I mean EVERYBODY! 2 wheels, 4 wheels, tractors. It don't matter. You just wave. You probably know half of them anyways.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: JetJock on June 06, 2011, 10:09:12 am
I pretty much wave at everybody. The HD crowd when in groups (3 or more bikes) seem the least likely to return the wave.

Having met, talked to and hung out with a lot of the HD crowd recently at Bike Nights at a local restaurant, I'd have to say that a very large proportion of them are not really bikers. They show up to be the center of attention courtesy of the latest piece of chrome/loudest pipe/custom paint, and the stories you hear are rarely about actually RIDING someplace.

They drink several large beers, start up their obnoxiously loud sickles and then totter on their way the 5 or 10 miles home. Rarely more than that. Distance for them is home to nearest tavern and back, with maybe another tavern thrown in. The GF or wife on the back is usually wearing stilletto heels and a tank top. Not exaggerating.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 06, 2011, 02:10:20 pm
I'm really sorry that you guys have had all these poor experiences with Harley riders. When I did own one, I hung around with the HOG group at the stealership. We went on rides every single sunday. Usually a hundred miles or so, round trip, sometimes more. Rain, Cold, Heat, didn't matter, we were out riding, and certainly more than 5 or 10 miles to the local brew. You know, those RUBs and FWRs and PubCrawlers ride all kinds of stuff.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Tactical_Mik on June 06, 2011, 02:39:11 pm
If I notice another bike and am able to do so I acknowledge them.  Be it a wave, pointing my left fingers up or a head nod.  I have done this on BMW's, a pan head hard tail (from the time I got that bike I was looking to sell it  :) ) Jap bikes etc.  There are a lot of riders around that think another bike is not worthy but I couldn't care less about any of that.  I once rode from Bradenton Florida to North Eastern Ohio for the 18th annual Sly Fox beast roast in a short weekend with a guy who had nearly no experience and was riding a hondamatic 400 with what I think were original chen shin tires throwing rubber the whole way.  Good times, good times.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 06, 2011, 02:46:38 pm
If I notice another bike and am able to do so I acknowledge them.  Be it a wave, pointing my left fingers up or a head nod.  I have done this on BMW's, a pan head hard tail (from the time I got that bike I was looking to sell it  :) ) Jap bikes etc.  There are a lot of riders around that think another bike is not worthy but I couldn't care less about any of that.  I once rode from Bradenton Florida to North Eastern Ohio for the 18th annual Sly Fox beast roast in a short weekend with a guy who had nearly no experience and was riding a hondamatic 400 with what I think were original chen shin tires throwing rubber the whole way.  Good times, good times.

Why were you in Bradenton?
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: GMan on June 06, 2011, 05:55:27 pm
I always return a wave from anyone--if I see it in time!  I don't know if I zone-out more these days or if I'm just really focused on the road ahead, but it's not uncommon that I find myself going past riders and catching their wave out of the corner of my eye after it's too late.  I'm always curious what they think my motive was for not waving...
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Uglydog56 on June 07, 2011, 08:35:27 am
I used to not wave at scooters, but now I wave at everybody on less than 4 wheels no matter what because the hell with them.  It's become a principle thing for me.  I told the SO that her two jobs are to whack me every time the speed limit changes and wave at all oncoming motorcycles.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: ManWorkinghere on June 07, 2011, 09:59:43 am
I wave sometimes. I always return a wave if there is time. .... Harleys never wave at metric bikes, but after they pass me I notice they will wave at other Harleys.
Living in the state of Harley's home, I don't get many waves back but I do initiate when possible.

Less waves from men, 30-40, wearing only sunglasses for a windshield, no helmet.  Some H-D cruisers will wave, fewer initiate.

I always return a wave from anyone--if I see it in time!  I don't know if I zone-out more these days or if I'm just really focused on the road ahead, but it's not uncommon that I find myself going past riders and catching their wave out of the corner of my eye after it's too late.  I'm always curious what they think my motive was for not waving...
Road construction zones are where I usually don't wave as I try to follow lane changes.  But I wonder the same thing about unreturned 'waves'.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 08, 2011, 08:36:17 am
To wave or not to wave...

I'm taking the back roads on the way home yesterday. Not a car in sight and I'm enjoying my ride, doing about 70 on a 2 lane through farmland. Up ahead I see a bike heading in the same direction and I'm catching up to him quickly. As I get closer I see that it's a pirate on an HD. He sees me in his rearview, downshifts and I hear him nail it. I drop down 2 gears and I nail it myself, blowing past him like he's standing still. I get back over into the right lane and check him out in the mirrors, dropping back pretty quickly.

Should I have waved at him?     8)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Rhino on June 08, 2011, 08:51:48 am
I wave almost always to any other motorcycle. On my Suzuki DR650 I get about 30% of the HD types to wave back. On my C14 about 50%, if I'm using my highway pegs about 70%. When I had my Valkyrie it was about 90%.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Rhino on June 08, 2011, 08:53:38 am
Oh and the comment I read about the rear end of a group waving more often then the lead is absolutely true.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: C1xRider on June 08, 2011, 04:05:30 pm
When I ride I try to wave at every motorcycle I see on the road. I have made this a part of my rides, it is my personal form of entertainment during my rides. I have noticed that not everyone returns the wave. When I wave I make a loose fist and point with 2 fingers towards the oncoming riders front wheel. I also noticed have that there are several forms of return waves, some just raise their fingers without ever removing their hand from the handlebar, some wave straight out to the side, some raise a hand up, some do like me and put their hand down and out...most interesting is the people hwo refuse to return the wave...this amuses me the most. I have noticed that if it is a large pack of Harleys that the leader (probably the alpha of the pack) will seldom wave, but the last in line most likely will (probably hopes that none in front of him notice). The most perplexing for me is when passing a large group of riders, do I do a wave for each rider...I finally adopted the technique of one long continuous wave till they are all past me...I live in the Pacific Northwest and I was able to ride most of the winter and spring and during the cold weather riding I noticed that everyone regardless of M/C type returned my waves...interesting, I guess the snobs are a bunch of candya** fairweather riders. I am curious to know how others feel about this topic, and your experiences???

Must be a PNW thing, as this exactly matches my observations as well.  I return waves to anyone / everyone, even scooters (it's getting harder to ID them from the oncoming profile).

I initiate a wave at all 2 & 3 wheelers, except HD riders, unless they wave first.  Too many of them are stuck up, and ruin it for the rest of them.

The other snob group I have noticed are LEO's.  They wave at each other, but rarely wave back to me.  Once, one initiated a wave (going other direction), but given the double take he did, I think he thought I was a LEO too.  I waved back anyway. :)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: C1xRider on June 08, 2011, 04:07:16 pm
To wave or not to wave...

I'm taking the back roads on the way home yesterday. Not a car in sight and I'm enjoying my ride, doing about 70 on a 2 lane through farmland. Up ahead I see a bike heading in the same direction and I'm catching up to him quickly. As I get closer I see that it's a pirate on an HD. He sees me in his rearview, downshifts and I hear him nail it. I drop down 2 gears and I nail it myself, blowing past him like he's standing still. I get back over into the right lane and check him out in the mirrors, dropping back pretty quickly.

Should I have waved at him?     8)

Of course you should have waved, but in a condescending way to indicate how funny you thought it was that he would downshift and accelerate for you to make the pass interesting.   ;D

 
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Ron Dawg on June 08, 2011, 08:40:36 pm
Met another Connie C-10 late today  on 985 in GA and got an enthusiastic "Hi 5" from across the interstate median. (it was black and the rider was all in black. It was obvious he was glad see another Connie!). Great to see. but I wonder if he/she is on here.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: JetJock on June 09, 2011, 10:59:51 am
To wave or not to wave...

I'm taking the back roads on the way home yesterday. Not a car in sight and I'm enjoying my ride, doing about 70 on a 2 lane through farmland. Up ahead I see a bike heading in the same direction and I'm catching up to him quickly. As I get closer I see that it's a pirate on an HD. He sees me in his rearview, downshifts and I hear him nail it. I drop down 2 gears and I nail it myself, blowing past him like he's standing still. I get back over into the right lane and check him out in the mirrors, dropping back pretty quickly.

Should I have waved at him?     8)

I'm sure he waved to you! Of course, staying in control of such a monster machine as his Hardly, he could only spare one finger and one hand. But it's the thought that counts.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 09, 2011, 11:45:21 am
Of course you should have waved, but in a condescending way to indicate how funny you thought it was that he would downshift and accelerate for you to make the pass interesting.   ;D

That's true, he did make my pass a lil more interesting than it otherwise would have been. I should have thanked him in some way for that at least eh?


I'm sure he waved to you! Of course, staying in control of such a monster machine as his Hardly, he could only spare one finger and one hand. But it's the thought that counts.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: mtn.connie on June 09, 2011, 12:31:21 pm
I will always return a wave and only initiate about 50% of the time. LMAO...I rarely ride in groups, but went out w/ about 8 guys one Sunday. The leader was a little full of himself and gave everyone a 15 minute dissertation on his hand signals. Fair enough, however when we were on the slab...two lanes each way w/ a huge median, he was killing himself trying to wave at opposing biker traffic. At first I was like...."what the hell hand signal is that?". Then I realized he was almost getting out of the seat to wave at guys going the other way more than 100 feet to the left. It was a beautiful Sunday and I bet our leader didn`t have his hand on the controls for 50% of the ride!
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: lt1 on June 09, 2011, 05:54:40 pm
I love "wave" threads.   :D

If I'm paying attention, not at risk, or putting the other rider at risk, I wave.

Not everyone waves.  Get over it.  My anecdotal evidence indicates that there is no real pattern.  We just assume that there is.  Up until 3 weeks ago, I would have said that motor officers don't wave.  But lately, they all have been.

I ride with friends who are great people, and have no motorcycling prejudices, but they just don't wave much.  And it doesn't seem to make much difference what bike they are riding either.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Sea Level on June 09, 2011, 06:03:56 pm
To wave or not to wave...

I'm taking the back roads on the way home yesterday. Not a car in sight and I'm enjoying my ride, doing about 70 on a 2 lane through farmland. Up ahead I see a bike heading in the same direction and I'm catching up to him quickly. As I get closer I see that it's a pirate on an HD. He sees me in his rearview, downshifts and I hear him nail it. I drop down 2 gears and I nail it myself, blowing past him like he's standing still. I get back over into the right lane and check him out in the mirrors, dropping back pretty quickly.

Should I have waved at him?     8)

I'd say you did.    :)

On a long ride, it can get tedious watching approaching bikes to see if they are going to wave, or look like they are waiting for me to wave, or what. I don't like to be rude, and I definitely feel an affinity with my fellow motorcycle riders, whatever they are on, so I tend to raise the fingers of my clutch hand. What the hell, I get a little stretch out of it, and a little credit for being friendly.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Tactical_Mik on June 10, 2011, 03:28:51 am
Why were you in Bradenton?

Here is a visual.  Thought it would be more interesting.

Between 17th ave west, 51st st west and Manatee
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Leo on June 10, 2011, 06:43:29 am
As long as traffic allows be to safely be distracted an wave, I am open to wave at anyone.  I do not consider my self a bike snob of any proportion.  I even return waves to scooters and mopeds.  If people do not wave back, I figure it's their problem.   No worries.  These days I confess I am having trouble with trikes.  I got rear ended by one who could not stop, I had a trailer towing trike turn left in front of me.  I got forced over double yellows by a trike going the same way on a 4 lane turn who entered the turn too hot and couldn't hold his lane.   Recently I had one of those Can Am Spyders come through double yellows heading straight towards me on a two lane curve.  I am glad the roadside was pretty smooth as I had to loose some speed riding through the weeds.  The guy didn't even stop.  He had to know that he just ran a biker off the road.  I am growing prejudiced, if you need three wheels, you better drive a car.    Checking myself, I find that I am hesitating to wave at trikes. 
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 10, 2011, 07:59:49 pm
Here is a visual.  Thought it would be more interesting.

Between 17th ave west, 51st st west and Manatee

I grew up in a duplex on the lower left corner of that image...
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 11, 2011, 08:11:18 am
Proof positive that it's cool to wave.

(http://www.triumphrat.net/attachments/biker-hang-out/14561d1242413698-henry-winkler-the-fonz-fonzmotoarnolds.jpg)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: stewart on June 11, 2011, 04:43:48 pm
Having come from Australia I found it strange that no one returned my Helmet nod, I figured everyone was just plan rude or riders didn't acknowledge each other where I live, then I started to see a wave and I'd nod back. Took me a while to break the habit.

Why nod, we ride on the left side of the road and you can't wave.

As for waving...I wave to everyone, their choice if they wish to wave back. I especially like it when the girls on the back of the HDs and Goldwings wave back, but the riders don't.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Jaxter on June 11, 2011, 06:03:59 pm
today I was snubbed by a Goldwing...who says you meet the nicest people on a Honda
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Pokey on June 12, 2011, 10:13:26 am
Helmet nod for me......
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: C1xRider on June 12, 2011, 11:15:40 am
I especially like it when the girls on the back of the HDs and Goldwings wave back, but the riders don't.

I get that a lot too.  I just chalk it up to Connie Envy.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: mikeboileau on June 27, 2011, 08:40:57 pm
Nod usually gets it done.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 27, 2011, 08:49:17 pm
I got snubbed for the first time ever (that I noticed) today. An HD rider waved at me, then 15 minutes later a Vulcan ignored me. I know he saw me, because we were on a two lane road, we passed within eight feet of one another. Huh.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: red44 on June 27, 2011, 09:43:10 pm
Back in the late 70s-early 80s it seemed anyone on a bike would give you that - not a wave, but a shoulder height fist salute. No brand prejudice, if you were riding, you were in.
Now that I'm riding again this wave thing is confusing. 75% of the bikes I encounter are Harley's.The under 50 crowd on them seem to have a dead arm, yet the older guys wave. Sport-bike guys wave or nod at least. I wave. If you ride, your in.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: blanton on June 27, 2011, 10:49:07 pm
I too wave at all 2,3 wheels and also top down cages. Agree that if I'm using my highway bars more H-Ds return. I get alittle gitty when meeting a sport-tourer and if its a Connie I try to speak (unless I need to spit) When meeting Victorys I do the two finger V, seems to always get a reply. Alot of turns, the head nod works. Let it be raining and it's almost 100%. I also stop for all stranded bikes........blanton
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: co11ins on June 28, 2011, 01:19:04 am
Otp we tend to just nod at other bikers. HD owners seem to have the same views here as over where you chaps are, perhaps its in the owners manual?  :-\
                                    Love riding in France where lifting the left hand is enough and pretty much everyone returns it. Waving at a biker as he/she overtakes recieves a right leg being kicked out( i'd love to wave back but cant let go of the throttle) 8)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: tjpgi on June 28, 2011, 04:23:36 am
I used to wave, just a left hand straight up an inch or so off the grip. Most of the responses tended to be strangled. I think they are confused. I ride a red BMW 650 with knobby tires. I wear a yellow helmet and black jacket and brown pants and EMT boots.

Since I don't have a "real" BMW, the Beemer crowd is confused. Cruiser guys usually give the down low wave but I'm not sure if they are flicking their butts or stretching or waving, since they rarely make eye contact. Big tourers wave or adjust the XM antenna, I can't tell. Connies, STs, FJRs- that crowd are the constant wavers. They also are the ones that will turn around and ask if I am okay when really I'm waiting for traffic to thin so I can pee. Or take a picture. Or both.

And of course, women riders wave at everyone.

There is also confusion since I don't wear "the uniform". No one piece Aerostich. No chaps and vest. I'm poor. And cheap. A lethal combination. I wear what I have and spend my money on important things. Like whores and cocaine.

The only riders that see me, and get it, are my fellow CARs*, the KLR guys. They smile and wave enthusiastically.

These days, I care less about other riders waving and more about awful traffic so I do the turn and nod.  But I will return a wave if I get one.









*CAR- cheapass rider

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: tjpgi on June 28, 2011, 04:30:52 am
I wave at all riders and most often it is returned. When riding in and around San Antonio I try to avoid waving at any Banditos however. Many times while riding ranch roads, the cagers even wave. I was riding down a service road that parallels I-10 and I saw this large, white haired guy on a Harley that had more luggage on it then I have at home, riding on the interstate waving at me with the biggest smile. At first I wasn't sure if he needed help, wanted a date or was just being friendly. I returned a quick wave and went merrily on my way.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 28, 2011, 05:06:45 am
Riding 2 up last weekend and the wife wanted to know why those guys on Harleys never wave?  ???
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: roadPilot on June 28, 2011, 11:06:21 am
I'll usually give every bike the semi-closed fist, two-fingers pointed down wave thing.

If they don't return a wave by the time we pass, my two-fingers down wave thing turns into a one-finger down thing -- and I'm sure you don't have to ask which finger is the one left extended ... ;)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Cavediver on June 28, 2011, 06:24:58 pm
Just today I've noticed that if they don't have a helmet on they don't wave back as much. Draw your own conclusion. It matters not what they ride. Just my oberservation for todays ride.

Jack
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: YoDoc on June 28, 2011, 08:15:50 pm
Just today I've noticed that if they don't have a helmet on they don't wave back as much. Draw your own conclusion. It matters not what they ride. Just my oberservation for todays ride.

Jack

If I rode without a helmet, I would not want to remove my hands from the handlebars either... lol.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: wildwilly on June 28, 2011, 11:52:41 pm
I don't get the whole "must-wave-to-every-motorcycle" thing.  If its convenient, I'll return a wave. 

There's a guy I've seen now for a couple of years on a big 'ol yellow 'Wing with the pulsating extra bright headlights that'll give a really exagerated "beauty-queen-on-parade" style wave when ever he see's another bike.  I'm sorry dude, I probably wouldn't wave at PeeWee Herman either.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 29, 2011, 05:29:34 am
Just today I've noticed that if they don't have a helmet on they don't wave back as much. Draw your own conclusion. It matters not what they ride. Just my oberservation for todays ride.

Jack

Especially if they have tassels.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: sherob on June 29, 2011, 08:30:27 am
One of my funniest "wave" encounters happened in Katy Proper... this guy wore the do rag, fingerless leather gloves, leather vest... the 1%er look all the way... rode a Burgman.  I would see him at least once a week on the way home, think he worked at the Dollar General there off Katyland.

He'd give me the typical low hand wave... I'd wave back.  One day he had his SO on the back... she waved, I waved back... you'ld think she won the Lotto by her reaction... :rotflmao:  She got this biggest grin... was tapping on the dudes shoulder... started waving again... funniest thing.  8)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 29, 2011, 08:35:33 am
One of my funniest "wave" encounters happened in Katy Proper... this guy wore the do rag, fingerless leather gloves, leather vest... the 1%er look all the way... rode a Burgman.  I would see him at least once a week on the way home, think he worked at the Dollar General there off Katyland.

He'd give me the typical low hand wave... I'd wave back.  One day he had his SO on the back... she waved, I waved back... you'ld think she won the Lotto by her reaction... :rotflmao:  She got this biggest grin... was tapping on the dudes shoulder... started waving again... funniest thing.  8)

Maybe your fly was open?     ;)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: sherob on June 29, 2011, 08:37:52 am
Maybe your fly was open?     ;)

Could have been...  :o
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Ron Dawg on June 29, 2011, 11:36:15 am
Could have been...  :o

Now you're talking tassel...again... :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Tom J. on June 29, 2011, 12:00:31 pm
I'm not sure, but I think that is legal in my state...
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Crashcup on June 29, 2011, 12:31:03 pm
If not waving makes you a dick, I guess I'm a dick about a third if the time. Sometimes I don't feel like waving first, and if there's a lot if bikes out, I get tired of it after a while. I almost always RETURN a wave, tho. I do like some of the thoughts expressed here... if you're on two wheels your in... that might be my friend when I break down.

It is entertaining to see the differences.  Around the Minneapolis area here, there are a lot of low, pointing-at-the-ground waves. In Iowa, I've seen a lot of hand-in-the-air high waves - actually waving the hand back forth, like trying to get someone's attention in a crowd. In Missouri, EVERYBODY waved at me as if I was their neighbor. Sometimes get a helmet nod, and I've noticed mostly newer riders doing this. Maybe they haven't learned the local customs yet.

I always wondered too, if riders told their female passengers to handle all the waves. Usually with two people, I see the chicken the back wave.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Crashcup on June 29, 2011, 12:34:37 pm
That was supposed to be "chick on the back..."
Dang auto-correct.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on June 29, 2011, 01:17:58 pm
If not waving makes you a dick, I guess I'm a dick about a third if the time. Sometimes I don't feel like waving first, and if there's a lot if bikes out, I get tired of it after a while. I almost always RETURN a wave, tho. I do like some of the thoughts expressed here... if you're on two wheels your in... that might be my friend when I break down.

It is entertaining to see the differences.  Around the Minneapolis area here, there are a lot of low, pointing-at-the-ground waves. In Iowa, I've seen a lot of hand-in-the-air high waves - actually waving the hand back forth, like trying to get someone's attention in a crowd. In Missouri, EVERYBODY waved at me as if I was their neighbor. Sometimes get a helmet nod, and I've noticed mostly newer riders doing this. Maybe they haven't learned the local customs yet.

I always wondered too, if riders told their female passengers to handle all the waves. Usually with two people, I see the chicken the back wave.

That was supposed to be "chick on the back..."
Dang auto-correct.


I was wondering what state that was that had chickens on the backs of bikes, Georgia maybe?
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: anycleavers on June 29, 2011, 07:43:54 pm
You know, I like the wave, camaraderie and all that, maybe that will be the guy to help me out, band of brothers (and sisters)etc..

Always return the wave when I see it, but........ I commute to work at 4:45am, fer pete's sake, the sun hasn't even thought to come up, haven't had any coffee and I'm focusing on getting to work in one piece. Do I have to WAVE too?

Maybe I'm just getting a mite irritable in my advanced age (at least that's what my kids tell me).  :banghead:
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: IDZG14 on July 14, 2011, 03:45:56 pm
I actually ride a Harley and a Connie (more time on the Connie).  I have found that regardless of what bike I am on, some Harley riders do not wave.  They are usually the older one %'s, or at least wannabes.  Some metrics (sport and cruisers), also will not wave when riding my Harley, even when I wave first.   I wave at everyone, regardless.  I know the number of riders is increasing so I can see why a lot of people get annoyed with it. 
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Jaxter on July 14, 2011, 08:56:40 pm
I actually ride a Harley and a Connie (more time on the Connie).  I have found that regardless of what bike I am on, some Harley riders do not wave.  They are usually the older one %'s, or at least wannabes.  Some metrics (sport and cruisers), also will not wave when riding my Harley, even when I wave first.   I wave at everyone, regardless.  I know the number of riders is increasing so I can see why a lot of people get annoyed with it.
Just smile & keep waving regardless of a return wave specially to the 1%'ers
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Hang2er on July 14, 2011, 09:46:45 pm
I have always waved at every bike I see, unless, of course, I see or feel something that makes me want to keep my hands on the bars and probably 75% of those waves were returned.  My general assumption on the other 25% is they are seeing something I already passed that makes them not want to let go. 

That said, the only group that waves less than HD's with no helmet is kids on sport bikes, I don't believe I've ever got a wave out of one of them.  I do snub scooters and spyders, the trikes with 2 wheels on the back I generally assume are disabled riders still getting out there and certainly give and return waves.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: backoutonthehighway on December 12, 2011, 06:40:25 pm
Well, I've never considered it a wave, but a salute. If I don't salute, it's because I didn't see the other bike, or I deem it dangerous to do so (twisties & heavy traffic). When splitting lanes and the cage moves over to give me room, I salute them as well. And yes, I live in CA.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: datsaxman@hotmail.com on December 13, 2011, 02:06:22 pm
In SoCal also...I usually wave, will always at least nod.  Not expecting one in return, so cool when it happens.  Cool when it doesn't.  Black modular helmet, black riding pants, black leather, black gloves, black beard.  No doo rag, and no more Harleys.  When I wear the yellow all weather gear, different folks wave.  Whatever. 
 

So...there we were 300 miles from home on the Buell...before I got the Concours.  First long ride with the GF.  1000 miles in three days.  Route 66, lots of curvy roads and sightseeing.  And waving.  She is pretty excited about that one and has taken over the duty for both of us.  So we are gearing up to pull out of a Burger King in Quartzsite - Nowhere, AZ - for the push homeward and we see this big Doo-Rag and Chaps Pirate on a very nice all white HD dresser pulling through the lot, idling right by us.  Better yet, there is his girl right behind, on her own ride - an all white Buell! 

We had been bike-watching the whole time, and we have seen Enfields, and Nortons, and an Earles fork BMW, but this is our first Bueller all weekend.  How peeved do you think the GF was when she gave them both the beaming startled wave and grin...and got NOTHING?  Not a smile, a nod, nothing at all.  Cute, perky, happy chicklet turned sour instantly.  Quick stop for gas and we are on the road.  GF grumbling.  "DANG PIRATES!"  were her last words...

20 miles or so down the road, we see somebody pulled over on the shoulder.  ME?  I always stop.  Been there, done all of that.  One of our saddlebags is full of tools and stuff.  Ten years working at a shop, so I can usually help.  So I signal and slow down.  Hey, it's our friends the Whites!  She is leaning on her Bueller looking peeved and he is sitting on the ground poking at the primary side of the HD.  Ms. White looks up, hopeful. 

GF?  Turns out, she DOESN'T stop for folks that don't wave.  We are down to second gear by the time she figures out who they are, and gives me a shot in the ribs.  "OOOOHHHH NNOOOOO!!  I DON"T THINK SOOOOOO!!" She is laughing that sarcastic laugh as we accelerate back onto the highway.  Man, that Bueller sounds gooooood running the revs up through the gears like that. 

Like I said, I always stop.  Treat GF like a dick and it may not go so well. 

Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Conrad on December 13, 2011, 02:30:42 pm
In SoCal also...I usually wave, will always at least nod.  Not expecting one in return, so cool when it happens.  Cool when it doesn't.  Black modular helmet, black riding pants, black leather, black gloves, black beard.  No doo rag, and no more Harleys.  When I wear the yellow all weather gear, different folks wave.  Whatever. 
 

So...there we were 300 miles from home on the Buell...before I got the Concours.  First long ride with the GF.  1000 miles in three days.  Route 66, lots of curvy roads and sightseeing.  And waving.  She is pretty excited about that one and has taken over the duty for both of us.  So we are gearing up to pull out of a Burger King in Quartzsite - Nowhere, AZ - for the push homeward and we see this big Doo-Rag and Chaps Pirate on a very nice all white HD dresser pulling through the lot, idling right by us.  Better yet, there is his girl right behind, on her own ride - an all white Buell! 

We had been bike-watching the whole time, and we have seen Enfields, and Nortons, and an Earles fork BMW, but this is our first Bueller all weekend.  How peeved do you think the GF was when she gave them both the beaming startled wave and grin...and got NOTHING?  Not a smile, a nod, nothing at all.  Cute, perky, happy chicklet turned sour instantly.  Quick stop for gas and we are on the road.  GF grumbling.  "DANG PIRATES!"  were her last words...

20 miles or so down the road, we see somebody pulled over on the shoulder.  ME?  I always stop.  Been there, done all of that.  One of our saddlebags is full of tools and stuff.  Ten years working at a shop, so I can usually help.  So I signal and slow down.  Hey, it's our friends the Whites!  She is leaning on her Bueller looking peeved and he is sitting on the ground poking at the primary side of the HD.  Ms. White looks up, hopeful. 

GF?  Turns out, she DOESN'T stop for folks that don't wave.  We are down to second gear by the time she figures out who they are, and gives me a shot in the ribs.  "OOOOHHHH NNOOOOO!!  I DON"T THINK SOOOOOO!!" She is laughing that sarcastic laugh as we accelerate back onto the highway.  Man, that Bueller sounds gooooood running the revs up through the gears like that. 

Like I said, I always stop.  Treat GF like a dick and it may not go so well.

Good story, Karma can be a bitch eh?
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: Tremainiac on December 13, 2011, 02:40:24 pm
I'll generally wave at anyone on two wheels.
Even scooters. They get no love to start with.
When my son had completed the MSF coarse, I would have him ride with me, he on my 2fiddy ninjette, me on my Triumph TBS, as one of the rules for the first year of his riding. After our third or fourth time on the highway, he asked how I knew everybody going the opposite way.  :o
Still cracks me up!
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: RED121572 on December 15, 2011, 02:08:41 pm
I wave at all the lone, two wheel riders by dropping the left hand with the pointer finger slightly down. If I happen to cross a large group of harley riders and there isnt a metric bike within their pack, I know not to wave because I wont get one back. A good percentage of HD riders in this area belong to clubs. (Outlaws, Black Pistons and local non 1%'er clubs and associations) Alot of those guys live in a world all their own and don't give the metric crowd a second thought.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: W14 on December 15, 2011, 02:23:19 pm
I wave unless I'm in a curve or for some other reason I need both hands on handle bars. My experince is that most riders, even Harley riders, wave back or initiate the wave.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: DaveO on December 17, 2011, 08:26:30 am
 never wave first ,cant get your feelings hurt that way. 8)
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: sas mayhem on January 03, 2012, 12:36:00 pm
I wave all the time regardless, Even at Can-Am rider if no one is looking.  I also wave at cagers (left hand turns) that actually stop and look and see me coming.

Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: backoutonthehighway on January 03, 2012, 02:49:58 pm
I wave all the time regardless, Even at Can-Am rider if no one is looking.  I also wave at cagers (left hand turns) that actually stop and look and see me coming.

Cheers
Ron

+1
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: pasini510 on January 03, 2012, 05:08:08 pm
I was happy to find the Flash to pass trigger and since I do not have a headlight modulator ,I will train my self this spring to flash my light and nod. I really hate having to wave to 25 bikers passing on other side of road . Its not that I dont like people either.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: BlkBird on January 03, 2012, 07:22:18 pm
Here in the North East you know who to wave to for about 4 months out of the year.  Anytime the temps drop below 40 only true bikers take their bikes out, I wave to every one of them.  When the temps rise the squids and posers show up and it's guessing time again.  I will typically wave to everyone until I am so po'd from the lack of responses that I then revert to response waving only.  When I ride with my club ( winter riders only ) we have all types of bikes and all are pretty decent folks.. I try not to judge by the bike.  I personally have owned American, British and Japanese and don't think the bike should dictate your personality.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: SLH0568 on February 01, 2012, 03:19:54 pm
never wave first ,cant get your feelings hurt that way. 8)

I'm with DaveO on this one, lol. Usually wait to see if there's some movement from the other guy before I wave. Does feel good when we do though. As a new Connie owner who is used to riding something half the size (a naked SV650), it did take me about 50 miles or so before I was willing to take my hand off the grip though :P But once I realized the ship wouldn't go anywhere I relaxed and do it all the time now. I'd say almost everyone waves along the two lane roads around here in Bakersfield.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: ZG on February 01, 2012, 05:09:36 pm
Thanks to vman, he got this all figured out for us...  ;D
 
 
  Finally explained!!!  why not wave!!??   (best to read it in your head with letterman voice)

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty
9. Leather and studs make it too heavy to raise arm
8. Refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for
7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off
6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos
5. Angry because just took out second mortgage to pay luxury tax on new Harley
4. Just discovered the fine print in owner's manual and realized H-D is partially owned by Honda
3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just reaching to cover their ears like everyone else
2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his hand on spiked helmet
1. They're too tired from spending hours polishing all that chrome to lift their arms.

Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture
9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip
8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm
7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him
6. The espresso machine just finished
5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved
4. Was in a three-way conference call with stockbroker and accessories dealer
3. Was distracted by odd shaped blip on radar screen
2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature, and satellite
navigation system
1. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard

Top Ten Reasons Why Sportbikers Riders Riders Don't Wave Back

10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement and respond
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of the socket
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips
5. They look way too cool with both hands on the bars or they don't want to unbalance themselves while standing on the tank
4. Their skin tight-Kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits prevent any position other than fetal
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops
2. It's too hard to do one-handed stoppies
1. They were too busy slipping their flip-flop back on

Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Riders Don't Wave Back

10. New Aerostich suit too stiff to raise arm
9. Removing a hand from the bars is considered "bad form."
8. Your bike isn't weird enough looking to justify acknowledgment.
7. Too sore from an 800-mile day on a stock "comfort" seat.
6. Too busy programming the GPS, monitoring radar, listening to iPod, XM, and talking on the cell phone.
5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!
4. Wires from Gerbings is too short.
3. You're not riding the "right kind" of BMW.
2. You haven't been properly introduced.
1. Afraid it will be misinterpreted as a friendly gesture.
Title: Re: Waving to other motorcycles
Post by: backoutonthehighway on February 01, 2012, 11:49:15 pm
 :rotflmao:

Now someone needs to come up with a set for Adventure Tourers

 :stirpot: