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Title: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 01, 2014, 02:45:24 pm
So I finally signed up with Facebook and stumbled around in there for a while. It seems to be a random stream of consciousness and even the 'organized' areas are not organized in any way other than time that I can tell.

I checked out the C-14 site, at least the one I found, and did not recognize very many people. Not too much going on there regarding content either, again, as far as I can tell. ??

Am I missing the wonderfulness or is it like almost everything on TV- a 'vast wasteland'?

Now I am off to check out the BMW sites, both local and national. I will say this, their dues are very reasonable IMO although most of their rallies seem to be based on camping rather than 'moteling'.

Brian
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Cuda on September 01, 2014, 02:56:51 pm
What is this facebook you speak of ?
Sounds like a form of egocentricity!
 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: wahrsuul on September 02, 2014, 04:24:17 am
Someone needs to develop a separate social network for people who can't spell and have no concept of grammar.

They could call it "Fasebuk".
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: jimmymac on September 02, 2014, 05:50:19 am
I refuse to join.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 02, 2014, 06:13:31 am
I did too but finally figured I was missing something. And I may well be missing something but it just seems like an awfully random scramble of thoughts. Well, not really thoughts but more of the things inside our heads that should not be let out in the first place.

Anyway, no harm done- I went, I looked, I shrugged my shoulders. ?

Brian

I refuse to join.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Stasch on September 02, 2014, 09:22:45 am
Warning:  Curmudgeon alert:

Welcome to the fragmentation of normal life brought to you by modern technology.

The modern theme of 'Express Yourself' is an empty shell to me.

Many don't let the fact that they don't have something worth saying, keep them from saying it anyway.

I guess we all have the right to do it, but there is far too much noise as a result.

As a society, we are so busy being the most overly 'expressed' and overly 'communicated' people ever, we miss out on what's meaningful.


A side note:

Does the word 'amazing' seem over used to anyone else?

As in:  "I brushed my teeth this morning with a new brand of toothpaste and I was like, OMG, this is so amazing."

How can it be amazing if its normal?
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: jimmymac on September 02, 2014, 09:39:51 am
It's that fresh minty breath. ;D
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rhino on September 02, 2014, 09:52:15 am
I find it pretty useful to stay in touch with extended family and old friends.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 02, 2014, 09:55:23 am
I'll see that curmudgeon-ness and raise you one: I find that humans are generally like cats: they pay attention until the string stops moving and then wait for movement somewhere else.  What I am finding lately is that all the people around me cannot simply do something like watch TV or eat a meal, they must combine both with twiddling on either a smartphone or a tablet. So when something like a TV show or movie is watched, all the subtly, significant portions of the video and absolutely all the typed messages (that set the stage for whatever is going on) are missed entirely. I used to stop the video stream and point this out but found that this annoyed the people who were 'watching' because "I know what is going on". But in fact, he / she has NO IDEA AT ALL what is going on and further, they are perfectly happy with that.

Conversations are going the same way- someone interrupts a thought and that is the end of that. Put simply, it seems to me that people simply vomit out words that may or may not form a sentence but at any rate, it makes little sense, is of no value and is usually incorrect.

Now here is the really scary thing: these people put down their tablets / smart phones just long enough to do some real damage..... like voting. And this tread is not new because....

"The multitude of fools is a protection to the wise. "
-Marcus T. Cicero

Brian

Warning:  Curmudgeon alert:

Welcome to the fragmentation of normal life brought to you by modern technology.

The modern theme of 'Express Yourself' is an empty shell to me.

Many don't let the fact that they don't have something worth saying, keep them from saying it anyway.

I guess we all have the right to do it, but there is far too much noise as a result.

As a society, we are so busy being the most overly 'expressed' and overly 'communicated' people ever, we miss out on what's meaningful.


Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Racer Boy on September 02, 2014, 12:10:56 pm
I find it pretty useful to stay in touch with extended family and old friends.

Exactly! Facebook is invaluable for that. I've been able to get in touch with old pals that I wouldn't have otherwise.

Brian, you can just learn to filter things. If one of your friends posts too much about useless crap, you can "hide" them from your newsfeed.

Facebook is a great way to waste time, which can be very valuable!
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: gPink on September 02, 2014, 01:25:37 pm
....and so here we are.   ::)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 02, 2014, 01:58:14 pm
Sounds like the forum...but different as it's about motorcycles... ::) ......oh my.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 02, 2014, 02:23:53 pm
I found it very different from a forum- forums are organized into sections and then threads. Sure the threads drift but still, I can scan the C-14 section(s) for example and not read through any C-10 stuff. But imagine this forum if all the sections and even threads were gone and it was just one stream of.... well, whatever that would be :-)  Chaos at best. That is how I found Facebook is bearing in mind that I spent maybe one hour in there and certainly do not know my way around. But honestly as far as I could tell, there just was not much substance there. As an earlier poster said, it is a great place to say things that perhaps were better left unsaid :-)

And by the way, I am not bashing it in any way- merely saying that I did not find it to be of any interest to me. For those who like it, great!

Brian

Sounds like the forum...but different as it's about motorcycles... ::) ......oh my.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Stasch on September 02, 2014, 03:29:17 pm
Has everyone forgotten I brushed my teeth today? 

Haven't been getting any 'LIKES' and am feeling neglected.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Scaffolder on September 02, 2014, 06:06:23 pm
I like these 2 pages for bikes.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewEnglandRiders/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewEnglandRiders/)




https://www.facebook.com/groups/Concours14/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Concours14/)


Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Scaffolder on September 02, 2014, 06:07:11 pm
I spend more time on Facebook than forums. But I play those stupid games too.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 02, 2014, 06:34:54 pm
I think I have 3 or 4 facebook accounts that I don't know how to get back into.  Signed up to see some manufacturer's information,  locked down the account and then never went back until the next time I wanted to see some manufacturer's information.  Then it was easier to create a new account than to try to figure out what the old account was. 

I have looked at my wife's facebook from time to time and it does look like a good way to keep up with what is going on with family, but I just let her fill me in on people I am interested in.  LOL!
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Cuda on September 02, 2014, 07:57:20 pm
I like these 2 pages for bikes.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewEnglandRiders/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewEnglandRiders/)




https://www.facebook.com/groups/Concours14/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Concours14/)


Wellll since I shut down the account my wife started for me years ago ... I don't see anything ;D
My older brother who is a well known Attorney feels the same, the less people know the better ;)
I waste too much time just on a few forums, would get nothing done if I did facelessbook.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 12:10:57 am
SOP Dirt-Rider Send me a "friends request" :)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: wahrsuul on September 03, 2014, 04:55:47 am
I find it pretty useful to stay in touch with extended family and old friends.

If I wanted to keep in touch with those people, I would.  I've known how to use a phone and pen and paper for many years now.

I don't have an FB account, never had a MySpace, and I think I have a Google+ just because they give it to you with a Gmail account.  my kids bug me about it sometimes, saying it would be easier to get hold of me.  If it's important, you'll find a way.  Otherwise, I don't need to know what you had for dinner, are watching on TV, or who you're dating.  You're adults, go live your lives, and let me know when you want some advice that you are going to follow anyway.

Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Conrad on September 03, 2014, 05:10:09 am
My son uses Fakebook to post pics of what his boys are up to. I told him that I wouldn't join but to instead e-mail those pics to me. Instead he created a Fakebook profile for me just so that we can see these pics and videos.

It works for that. 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rembrant on September 03, 2014, 05:15:20 am
I've had a Facebook account since it started...or very early after. How long has it been?..7-8 years now?...

In any case, it's like television...I could very easily live without it. You see, the problem...around here at least, is that Facebook killed the few local motorcycle forums we had....I mean, it ended them. So, I find it handy for keeping in contact with my motorcycle friends....other than that, it's all just mindless drivel...lol. Every bit of it.

On a side note...but related, I just read something the other day about how a restaurant owner in NYC did his own study on the use of smart phones, etc and how it's hurting his business. Apparently, people are taking 6 minutes longer (on average) to eat and finish their meals in restaurants...playing with their phones and not reading the menu...playing with their phones and not eating....taking pictures of their food, and finally, playing with their phones while they send their food back to be reheated because they were too distracted to eat it while it was hot...lol.

So, add 6 minutes to every customer's visit, and at the end of the day, it's all taking valuable time from other potential customers. I hadn't thought of it until I read it, but it's a bit disturbing imho.

PS: BDF...you're thoughts on Facebook are right on target;).

Rem 8)

Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 03, 2014, 06:10:05 am
My wife uses Photobucket to share photos but I can see where Facebook would be better because there could be text around the photos.

And now that I am a member and apparently made three 'friends', I am getting 'friend' requests from people I do not even know now. What the.....?

Not sure yet but I think this is going to be a case of Veni, vidi, domus. You know, I came, I saw, I went home.   ;D

Brian

My son uses Fakebook to post pics of what his boys are up to. I told him that I wouldn't join but to instead e-mail those pics to me. Instead he created a Fakebook profile for me just so that we can see these pics and videos.

It works for that.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rhino on September 03, 2014, 06:41:12 am
If I wanted to keep in touch with those people, I would.  I've known how to use a phone and pen and paper for many years now.

I don't have an FB account, never had a MySpace, and I think I have a Google+ just because they give it to you with a Gmail account.  my kids bug me about it sometimes, saying it would be easier to get hold of me.  If it's important, you'll find a way.  Otherwise, I don't need to know what you had for dinner, are watching on TV, or who you're dating.  You're adults, go live your lives, and let me know when you want some advice that you are going to follow anyway.

Me neither. But now that I'm working 1000 miles away, I love seeing a short video of my granddaughter playing trumpet solo in the HS band concert that I missed. Or pics of my nephew's latest work site where his small company did some fantastic stamped concrete work in Montana. I also love reconnecting with my best friend from NJ after 40 years. My parents moved across the country when I was 14. Turns out my friend had an event in Colorado and stayed with me. We got along just like we did as kids and keep in touch now. Without FB, never would have happened.

Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 07:46:12 am
So, Brian, what is your screen name?  I found some interesting BDFs, but somehow I don't think BDF Carol is in your DNA!
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: wahrsuul on September 03, 2014, 07:59:58 am
Me neither. But now that I'm working 1000 miles away, I love seeing a short video of my granddaughter playing trumpet solo in the HS band concert that I missed. Or pics of my nephew's latest work site where his small company did some fantastic stamped concrete work in Montana. I also love reconnecting with my best friend from NJ after 40 years. My parents moved across the country when I was 14. Turns out my friend had an event in Colorado and stayed with me. We got along just like we did as kids and keep in touch now. Without FB, never would have happened.

I'm right back to - if it's important, they'll get hold of me.  I do have email, so if they have pics, video, audio, they can send them along as easily as post them for thew whole world.  maybe I'm being a little selfish, but think the minor effort involved in sending something as "personal" as an email to the grandparents might be nicer that posting it for th world to see and seemingly saying "Here it is, come and get it if you want it".

But that's my curmudgeonly take on it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Racer Boy on September 03, 2014, 10:09:10 am
Wow, there are a lot of grouches here! If you don't want to do Facebook, then don't. It is very simple.

It's just like television, if you don't want to watch it don't turn it on. Some of the posters are like channels on the television. You can ignore them if you don't want to watch them or read them. Just like on this forum, some people post a lot and I find that I ignore those posts.

We live in a rapidly changing world, and it is difficult to keep up with many of these changes. That doesn't mean that someone is holding a gun to your head to be on Facebook. If you don't want to do Facebook then that's fine, but there's no need to put down people that do you want to do it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 03, 2014, 10:30:47 am
Yeah but you gotta' remember, as a group we are old and that is all we have left- bitching about everything. :-)  The next phase, after the 'old and hating "now" ' is spouting about how great everything used to be....  Annoying to say the least but whatcha' gonna' do?  And remember, some of us have been listening to this constant whine about change for decades- I had to listen to it about fuel injection, electronic ignition, etc., etc. ad nauseum.

But hey, I don't hate Facebook or much else, just didn't find it very useful for me. And I freely admit I am probably not using it correctly or anywhere near its potential either. Hence the title of this whole thread: Facebook- I don't get it. Not Facebook- I hate it. :-)

And watch out about picking on the grouchy people- they will hit you with their cane or throw their dentures at you.... provided they can see you through the cataracts of course.  :rotflmao:

Brian



Wow, there are a lot of grouches here! If you don't want to do Facebook, then don't. It is very simple.

It's just like television, if you don't want to watch it don't turn it on. Some of the posters are like channels on the television. You can ignore them if you don't want to watch them or read them. Just like on this forum, some people post a lot and I find that I ignore those posts.

We live in a rapidly changing world, and it is difficult to keep up with many of these changes. That doesn't mean that someone is holding a gun to your head to be on Facebook. If you don't want to do Facebook then that's fine, but there's no need to put down people that do you want to do it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 03, 2014, 11:18:14 am


On a side note...but related, I just read something the other day about how a restaurant owner in NYC did his own study on the use of smart phones, etc and how it's hurting his business. Apparently, people are taking 6 minutes longer (on average) to eat and finish their meals in restaurants...playing with their phones and not reading the menu...playing with their phones and not eating....taking pictures of their food, and finally, playing with their phones while they send their food back to be reheated because they were too distracted to eat it while it was hot...lol.

So, add 6 minutes to every customer's visit, and at the end of the day, it's all taking valuable time from other potential customers. I hadn't thought of it until I read it, but it's a bit disturbing imho.

Rem 8)

To pull this off topic post off off topic:  Some restaurants you go to for a meal and move on.  Some restaurants you go to as a social event with your family and/or friends.  There is nothing worse than a server bringing out the meal when you haven't even finished the salad yet, or conversely, one who is nowhere to be found when you want the check. 

There is a difference between grabbing a bite and a casual dining experience and sometimes we have to choose the restaurant accordingly.   ;D
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: timsatx on September 03, 2014, 12:12:02 pm
Warning:  Curmudgeon alert:

A side note:

Does the word 'amazing' seem over used to anyone else?

As in:  "I brushed my teeth this morning with a new brand of toothpaste and I was like, OMG, this is so amazing."

How can it be amazing if its normal?

Amazing insight.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 03, 2014, 12:42:28 pm
Like, totally amazed myself that 'amazing' is overused..go figure.  :rotflmao:   I do like the word 'brilliant', though.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 03, 2014, 12:53:45 pm
Amazingly, I do not know? I don't even know if I have a 'screen name' or not. ?? I just used my regular name to sign up, and lied about everything else.  ;)

That's OK though 'cause I could not find my wife on FB either. And I think she just uses her regular name also, not sure about the lying about everything else though. But I will say that after I did find her and her profile, I expect a 32 year old blonde woman that is 5'8" tall to walk through the door tonight....

 :rotflmao:

Brian

So, Brian, what is your screen name?  I found some interesting BDFs, but somehow I don't think BDF Carol is in your DNA!
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Classvino on September 03, 2014, 02:12:08 pm
I have a very small number of friends on Facebook, and at times the volume of posts make it seen like that's many...   I usually ignore friend requests from anyone that I haven't specifically ask for an invitation...   If they seem perturbed by this, I direct them here :

Posted in the "About Me" page in my Facebook profile...

Don't take this personally... It is in fact, rather impersonal, but then that's the point, isn't it. Call me old-fashioned, but I differentiate between friends and acquaintances. I need to have met and communicated with you, even if only by phone or e-mail, before I consider you an acquaintance. To be honest, if we spend no time together offline, chances are that we don't really need to spend time "together" online, so to speak... And if we've only connected once or twice, and again, don't take this personally, there's very little chance that you've "graduated" from acquaintance to friend. Why so persnickety? I am as tired of hearing about every boring, tedious development in anyone's banal, uneventful life as they would be about hearing about every boring, tedious development my own banal, uneventful life. Beyond the privacy implications, accepting every random friend request would soon have my News Feed overrun with irrelevant trivia. I suppose I could accept requests from people I don't know well but then keep them from seeing my updates while I hide their updates from my News Feed, but what would be the point of that?

None have ever come back asking for clarification.  I can only assume that's a good thing...    ;D

Jamie
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: jettawreck on September 03, 2014, 05:24:44 pm
I'm right back to - if it's important, they'll get hold of me.  I do have email, so if they have pics, video, audio, they can send them along as easily as post them for thew whole world.  maybe I'm being a little selfish, but think the minor effort involved in sending something as "personal" as an email to the grandparents might be nicer that posting it for th world to see and seemingly saying "Here it is, come and get it if you want it".

But that's my curmudgeonly take on it.

No Facebook account here either, but the wife is looking at it often enough to make up for it, I guess.
Doubt if I ever will start an account. Just don't care enough what others are doing.

What your insight was is the issue I have. My daughter in law posts all the grand daughter pictures and stuff on Facebook and can't take the time to send a personal message by email or even text. Selfish, no I don't think so really. I refuse to encourage any posting on social media because I think it will come back to haunt you sometime or another and telling the world where you are, what you are doing, etc is just going to make opportunistic goons likely to rob your property, possessions or threaten and assault (or worse) yourself, wife or children. Nothing is private or as secure as they assume. Once it's on the internet, it never goes away.
Our family was victimized (way over used term) by armed robbery and assault many years ago before any social media forms and it seems like it would be so much easier now for criminals with such a tool. Makes me very uneasy.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 06:31:05 pm
Amazingly, I do not know? I don't even know if I have a 'screen name' or not. ?? I just used my regular name to sign up, and lied about everything else.  ;)

That's OK though 'cause I could not find my wife on FB either. And I think she just uses her regular name also, not sure about the lying about everything else though. But I will say that after I did find her and her profile, I expect a 32 year old blonde woman that is 5'8" tall to walk through the door tonight....

 :rotflmao:

Brian
Amazingly and actually (as opposed to boring and false) I am unable to locate either you or the rodent on FB.  A bit more of a hint would be helpful for those of us in the 21st Century!! 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 03, 2014, 07:21:28 pm
Yeah, probably my privacy settings. I originally set them so tight (Easy Boys!) that I could not find anyone and no one could find me either. After making some adjustments, I can now see some groups but lots of posts (is that was writing to a Facebook 'place' is- a post?) are blocked for me. Not really worth bothering with though as I will probably be one of those people who opened an account in 2014 and did not check it again before moving on (and by that I mean THE BIG moving on, not just changing addresses  ;D ).

Kirby is ascairt to even try Facebook; if he finds just his first cousins, there would be about a gazillion other little furry critters telling each other about their respective nuts.

Brian

Amazingly and actually (as opposed to boring and false) I am unable to locate either you or the rodent on FB.  A bit more of a hint would be helpful for those of us in the 21st Century!!
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 07:56:30 pm
Well, this isn't you!!  https://www.facebook.com/brian.felice.10?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/brian.felice.10?fref=ts)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 08:30:48 pm
And a HUGE FWIW, just what is so different between FB and say, this forum?  FB you have the option of who sees what you share, here?  Just sayin the obvious folks...
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Outback_Jon on September 03, 2014, 09:44:38 pm
You see, the problem...around here at least, is that Facebook killed the few local motorcycle forums we had....I mean, it ended them.
In my experience, Facebook is a horrible replacement format for a motorcycle forum.  Especially for planning any events.  I haven't found an easy, acceptable way to scroll through all the other noise just to find the post and keep current.  (Maybe there is one, but I don't use FB enough - I find the entire design to be clunky and non-intuitive.)

And now that I am a member and apparently made three 'friends', I am getting 'friend' requests from people I do not even know now. What the.....?
That's the blatant, rampant, narcissism that Facebook appeals to.  I get friend requests from friends of friends and friends of family all the time.  (And I don't even have all that many people as friends anyway.  On FB or real life.  :o )

That said, it is a convenient way to share family photos and videos.  But I don't use it for much anyway.  I will tend to check in from my phone when I'm out on a motorcycle trip or a vacation, mostly to let my kids know where I am and that I'm OK.  Just a quick check-in from a lunch stop or a sightseeing stop.  My way of saying, "Hey guys, Dad's still safe and sound."
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 03, 2014, 10:10:20 pm
Jon, create a page specific to the group, keep "Friends" that are members of that group.  Doesnt need to be MC specific, but that is usually how they form.  Like here, unsolicited content is easily removed and managed.  These pages are generally local, but can grow to national quickly.  It really is much the same as this forum, but with a much larger potential for an audience due to it's popularity.

To those decrying FB?  Almost sounds like a Harley rider whining about all them "Jap" bikes!  I bet some may still use a switchboard for calls and wait patiently for the Pony Express Rider to pick up a parcel or drop off a tin type to see little Johhny (who was born last year in a neighboring state).  Turn in yer fob and dust of the the v twin, go for a ride and see which bike you really want to ride  :)

Older members may remember my demise back before the great crash, I hated FB, used my name and the critters came out of the wood works.  Pain to really delete an account.  Along came the time to rejoin (with a pseudonym) as a lot of my MC clients use it heavily and to help grow a small business with almost no media budget it works...  I keep my stuff separate, but do manage the schools page and a sub page s well.

We have the Arena, folks manage just fine in avoiding what they don't want to see, no real difference with FB...  And o so easy to share pics and videos.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Gsun on September 03, 2014, 10:41:17 pm
I don't get it either. But I'm 60 and I don't have to get it. It's not part of my lifestyle. When I retire, I am going to enjoy not carrying my cell phone everywhere I go. Maybe I will anyway - it's entrenched. Tried FB and never had anything to say and got really tired of the drivel coming in all the time. Still have it, but don't look at it much. Under my dogs name, not mine.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: wahrsuul on September 04, 2014, 04:59:46 am
Heck, I forget my cell phone as often as I remember to carry it.  The kids have learned to call mom as the chances of her having he phone are far greater.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Conrad on September 04, 2014, 05:03:21 am
My son says that he has his phone and FB accounts linked so that when he takes a pic with his phone it's automatically sent to his FB account.

My wife uses Photobucket to share photos but I can see where Facebook would be better because there could be text around the photos.

And now that I am a member and apparently made three 'friends', I am getting 'friend' requests from people I do not even know now. What the.....?

Not sure yet but I think this is going to be a case of Veni, vidi, domus. You know, I came, I saw, I went home.   ;D

Brian

My son uses Fakebook to post pics of what his boys are up to. I told him that I wouldn't join but to instead e-mail those pics to me. Instead he created a Fakebook profile for me just so that we can see these pics and videos.

It works for that.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Conrad on September 04, 2014, 05:09:31 am
Yet SO many restaurants are offering free Wi-Fi to lure costumers in...

To pull this off topic post off off topic:  Some restaurants you go to for a meal and move on.  Some restaurants you go to as a social event with your family and/or friends.  There is nothing worse than a server bringing out the meal when you haven't even finished the salad yet, or conversely, one who is nowhere to be found when you want the check. 

There is a difference between grabbing a bite and a casual dining experience and sometimes we have to choose the restaurant accordingly.   ;D

snip...

On a side note...but related, I just read something the other day about how a restaurant owner in NYC did his own study on the use of smart phones, etc and how it's hurting his business. Apparently, people are taking 6 minutes longer (on average) to eat and finish their meals in restaurants...playing with their phones and not reading the menu...playing with their phones and not eating....taking pictures of their food, and finally, playing with their phones while they send their food back to be reheated because they were too distracted to eat it while it was hot...lol.

So, add 6 minutes to every customer's visit, and at the end of the day, it's all taking valuable time from other potential customers. I hadn't thought of it until I read it, but it's a bit disturbing imho.

Rem 8)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: datsaxman@hotmail.com on September 04, 2014, 12:11:15 pm
Irony:  A bunch of folks posting random babble on THIS site about how they don't like FB because of all the random babble.  Hahahaha!!  So stay off the site already, right?

I have  small business, and a small business page, and FB works really well for keeping folks updated.  It is good that other folks can comment on the page, *and* that I can monitor the comments.  Fotos, scanned maps, excel results tables, etc. all post very readily and look good on the page, which makes me look smart.

Oh...I meant Amazing irony.


 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 04, 2014, 02:38:33 pm
Wow, I had no idea my thoughts on FB would generate this kind of emotion. ?? But hey, whatever gets the post count up is good I guess.

 ;D

Me, I just didn't care for FB but I am not going to invest  a lot of emotion into it.

Brian
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 04, 2014, 02:41:11 pm
Irony:  A bunch of folks posting random babble on THIS site about how they don't like FB because of all the random babble.  Hahahaha!!  So stay off the site already, right?

I have  small business, and a small business page, and FB works really well for keeping folks updated.  It is good that other folks can comment on the page, *and* that I can monitor the comments.  Fotos, scanned maps, excel results tables, etc. all post very readily and look good on the page, which makes me look smart.

Oh...I meant Amazing irony.


 

"Like"

 8)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Strawboss on September 04, 2014, 02:57:02 pm
No FB for me either, don't get it, don't need it, don't care. All the people that care and that I care about I see the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 04, 2014, 03:07:19 pm
No FB for me either, don't get it, don't need it, don't care. All the people that care and that I care about I see the old fashioned way.
Sounds like a road trip is in order  ;) 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 04, 2014, 03:21:58 pm
Wow, I had no idea my thoughts on FB would generate this kind of emotion. ?? But hey, whatever gets the post count up is good I guess.

 ;D

Me, I just didn't care for FB but I am not going to invest  a lot of emotion into it.

Brian

This doesn't affect your post count.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 04, 2014, 03:58:57 pm
This doesn't affect your post count.
Better be careful, he may un friend you ;)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: gPink on September 04, 2014, 04:10:29 pm
Better be careful, he may un friend you ;)
I thought it was 'deface you'.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 04, 2014, 04:37:31 pm
Wait- let me guess..... you drive over to you I-BIL's house and ring the bell, right?

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Brian

No FB for me either, don't get it, don't need it, don't care. All the people that care and that I care about I see the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 04, 2014, 04:38:21 pm
How about if I said I LIKE the English, would that change my post count?

 :o ;D

Brian

This doesn't affect your post count.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Strawboss on September 04, 2014, 05:09:01 pm
Road trip sounds good, always up for meeting new friends face to face.  ;D People I don't care about, I don't see, and I haven't seen that oxygen thief in over 8 years.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 04, 2014, 05:55:17 pm
How about if I said I LIKE the English, would that change my post count?

 :o ;D

Brian

Possibly, Brian, possibly.. ;D
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Clark Kent on September 07, 2014, 07:30:36 pm
I found it very different from a forum- forums are organized into sections and then threads. Sure the threads drift but still, I can scan the C-14 section(s) for example and not read through any C-10 stuff. But imagine this forum if all the sections and even threads were gone and it was just one stream of.... well, whatever that would be :-)  Chaos at best. That is how I found Facebook is bearing in mind that I spent maybe one hour in there and certainly do not know my way around. But honestly as far as I could tell, there just was not much substance there. As an earlier poster said, it is a great place to say things that perhaps were better left unsaid :-)

And by the way, I am not bashing it in any way- merely saying that I did not find it to be of any interest to me. For those who like it, great!

Brian
sd

Spoken like a man who has never visited the "ARENA"  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 07, 2014, 08:03:30 pm
I did once or twice in the olden' days before you had to get special dispensation to go there. Nothing wrong with that section IMO, it just does not hold any interest for me.

Back to the FB thingy: I am now getting 3, 4, and more "friend" requests per day from people I do not know. Or at least I do not know I know them (forum names, FB names, real names- I can't tell who is who).

Brian

sd

Spoken like a man who has never visited the "ARENA"  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 07, 2014, 10:28:22 pm
Brian, I still haven't found you.  Will you spell out your name as it is on FB?
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Conrad on September 08, 2014, 04:34:25 am
I did once or twice in the olden' days before you had to get special dispensation to go there. Nothing wrong with that section IMO, it just does not hold any interest for me.

Back to the FB thingy: I am now getting 3, 4, and more "friend" requests per day from people I do not know. Or at least I do not know I know them (forum names, FB names, real names- I can't tell who is who).

Brian


Ohhh, Mr Popularity are we?    ;)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: wahrsuul on September 08, 2014, 05:01:12 am
Hmmm.... how true is this?
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 08, 2014, 05:06:02 am
Brian, I still haven't found you.  Will you spell out your name as it is on FB?

If he does, do it in private.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 08, 2014, 10:17:39 am
As it is in my e-mail address. I think I am too private to be 'found' except by friend or friends' of friends or something. My wife and my son twiddled (Easy Boys!) around with my FB settings and I think I am still pretty hidden.

Besides all of that, I have not been on there in over a week or more. I have not responded to any of the requests for 'friending' (is that a verb?) simply because I honestly do not think I will be there much, if at all.  If anything, I might start an InControl page in the future but again, that would just be sort of a pointer to the website, IF, and that is a big IF, Marty ever makes it into anything worth seeing in the first place!

Brian

Brian, I still haven't found you.  Will you spell out your name as it is on FB?
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 09, 2014, 08:36:55 am
FB - My generation (old folks -I'm 50 now) use it.  Our entire graduating class (minus just a few members who refuse to join we email) stays in touch on it and we used it for the 30th reunion.  The sportbike crowd in Tampa, thats where we post rides, meets, classifieds and such. It totally replaced the local sportbike forums. Local classic car clubs and meets use it in Tampa now as well.

Twitter, I signed up for but rarely log on. But I realize and don't dispute social media is the now, twitter being "the other" one.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 14, 2014, 03:15:47 pm
scale and user volume for each, show me the numbers???  So, does anyone use this social media  ;)

Quote
Facebook has 1.23 billion active users compared to Twitter’s 232 million – over five times more.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: timsatx on September 15, 2014, 06:14:46 am
I have FB and use it almost daily. Not so much for posting but just to keep track of family and friends. I have Twitter account too but rarely use it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 15, 2014, 01:42:44 pm
I have FB and use it almost daily. Not so much for posting but just to keep track of family and friends. I have Twitter account too but rarely use it.

+1, likewise  :finger_fing11:
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 15, 2014, 01:56:48 pm
Well, someday if I have a friend I may also want to check up on him / her on FB. Until then though, I have not signed on since the second time after I signed up. But I am getting lots of requests from people to be my friend and I do not even know them.  I am starting to think this whole thing may be just a tad shallow.....

 :rotflmao:  two times.

Brian

I have FB and use it almost daily. Not so much for posting but just to keep track of family and friends. I have Twitter account too but rarely use it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rhino on September 15, 2014, 03:03:47 pm
Well, someday if I have a friend I may also want to check up on him / her on FB. Until then though, I have not signed on since the second time after I signed up. But I am getting lots of requests from people to be my friend and I do not even know them.  I am starting to think this whole thing may be just a tad shallow.....

 :rotflmao:  two times.

Brian

I have to admit it's true. FB is only useful for people that:

     1) have friends and family
     2) some of them use FB.

Now if we could get Kirby and Mr. Elkhoof to use FB, you would be all set.  ;D
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 15, 2014, 03:06:20 pm
+1

I only accept family, colleagues, real friends, high school/college folks from the past, etc.  I ignore the spam BS like anywhere else on the net. 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 15, 2014, 03:11:20 pm
Are you serious? I can't get those two to shut up.... even in my dreams lately!

 ;) ;D

Now with that said, I am actually working on a blog called 'Kirby's Korner' for my web page. I guess that could be either pathetic or humorous and it is up to each one of us to decide which I figure.

Brian

I have to admit it's true. FB is only useful for people that:

     1) have friends and family
     2) some of them use FB.

Now if we could get Kirby and Mr. Elkhoof to use FB, you would be all set.  ;D
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 15, 2014, 03:15:33 pm
As of late I have been unfriending several folks because of political BS.  I have it for MC related stuff and a few "real" friends, not virtual friends.  When I get a friend request I simply look at their page, view a sampling of their posts and decide if I want to accept their request.  Heck, I un friended my son, he was one of those who shared every little bit of idiotic stupid, stereotypical things that just tick me off.  FB is what you make of it, it isnt about the number of friends, it is about the content of the friends (virtual) you have, and the contents you provide.  No different than any other forum, with the exception you are the moderator of your created forum.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rhino on September 15, 2014, 03:28:04 pm
As of late I have been unfriending several folks because of political BS.  I have it for MC related stuff and a few "real" friends, not virtual friends.  When I get a friend request I simply look at their page, view a sampling of their posts and decide if I want to accept their request.  Heck, I un friended my son, he was one of those who shared every little bit of idiotic stupid, stereotypical things that just tick me off.  FB is what you make of it, it isnt about the number of friends, it is about the content of the friends (virtual) you have, and the contents you provide.  No different than any other forum, with the exception you are the moderator of your created forum.

+1 Well said. I don't do politics on FB either. I have un-friended some but most I just hide. Most of the time when I hide it's just because their posts are annoying with zero useful content. Hmmm... probably some out there thinking the exact same thing about his post.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Clark Kent on September 15, 2014, 05:03:20 pm
Hmmmm, Since I have xray vision I just look into a persons soul.  If the case women, I start at the "Sole" of their shoes and work my way up from there.

Where do you think the TSA got their Scanner idea from?  :finger_fing11:


Actually, for real, I still use a simple telephone.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: RFH87_Connie on September 16, 2014, 05:51:08 am
Actually, for real, I still use a simple telephone.

What is this telephone you speak of?  Who does that anymore?  My 73 yo mother only uses a cell phone now (after I talked her into it 4 years ago).
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: RFH87_Connie on September 16, 2014, 05:54:07 am
Oops, that was of the post title.  I use facebook (almost daily for a few minutes) to keep track of family and friends, but she has no idea what it is or how to use it.  I have my cousin who lives near her show her things (pix and videos) on FB if need be.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Classvino on September 16, 2014, 03:37:24 pm
Best Facebook Definition. Ever.

"Facebook is a repository for mankind’s collective narcissism, self-pity and addiction to voyeurism. It consumes, digests and regurgitates a litany of mundane, trivial, banal and useless information, so we can feed from it and nourish our desire to feel better (and/or worse) about ourselves. "

From https://roadtrippers.com/blog/student-fakes-42-day-trip-to-southeast-asia (https://roadtrippers.com/blog/student-fakes-42-day-trip-to-southeast-asia)

Jamie
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 16, 2014, 08:43:39 pm
Best Facebook Definition. Ever.

"Facebook is a repository for mankind’s collective narcissism, self-pity and addiction to voyeurism. It consumes, digests and regurgitates a litany of mundane, trivial, banal and useless information, so we can feed from it and nourish our desire to feel better (and/or worse) about ourselves. "

From https://roadtrippers.com/blog/student-fakes-42-day-trip-to-southeast-asia (https://roadtrippers.com/blog/student-fakes-42-day-trip-to-southeast-asia)

Jamie
So, I ask this, what is the difference between FB and a forum?  The above definition is an opinion, not fact. 

"Like" and "Share" if you agree  ;)
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: T Cro ® on September 17, 2014, 04:34:32 am
So, I ask this, what is the difference between FB and a forum?  The above definition is an opinion, not fact. 

"Like" and "Share" if you agree  ;)

What is the difference? My wife is on FB she is not on this forum or any other forum I participate in....   
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 17, 2014, 05:10:50 am
One difference is that anyone and their brother aren't on the forum and don't have access to it.  We are also not violating anyone's privacy that I'm aware of.  However, we tried facial recognition on the pics of the members but it broke the software.  Probably wasn't a good idea in retrospect.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 17, 2014, 07:04:54 am
Jim, you may not be (violating privacy), but it can be violated my someone.  It is the internet, afterall.  FB isn't just open to the public, it can be about as private as one wants, nothing on the net is ever %100 private...  We are not an all inclusive club, anyone who googles a ZG question will end up on our forum.  FB is another source for information exchange, it can be abused, and often is.  But, isn't that the beauty of the First Amendment?  Each FB member in essence creates their very own forum, allowing or disallowing members into their mini world, each of us become Rick.   

 
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2014, 07:14:34 am
I agree with everyone who suggests don't share politics.  I'd like to suggest don't share ANYTHING negative.  Your friends, family, colleagues, fellow students, and acquaintances (car clubs, professional organizations, etc) use social media daily.

most EVERYONE is on social media, and the numbers are shrinking of those who don't use it.this 2010 chart doesn't even accurately portray the market penetration.

(http://www.adweek.com/files/stylus/157710-CHART_eMarketer_US_Social_Network_Users_2008-2014_114808.jpg)

Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 17, 2014, 07:18:58 am
Whew! That was closes. FIFY.

Brian


<snip>

.... penetration. (Easy Boys!).

<snip>

Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Classvino on September 17, 2014, 08:35:59 am
So, I ask this, what is the difference between FB and a forum?  The above definition is an opinion, not fact.

Can't really dispute that, I guess (or won't, at any rate...)

Taken literally, your statement that FB is like a forum is basically correct... With the caveat being that the range of topics is (thankfully) much more limited (usually  ;)) by a general consensus.

I don't think anyone would dispute the following statement : "There is a GREAT deal of "narcissism, self-pity and voyeurism" on FB."  (Although this too, may just be my opinion.)

I guess I had always assumed (or hoped) that the signal-to-noise ratio was a bit more favourable in 'here' though... 

That may be my mistake - but I've been wrong before.

Jamie
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: jimmymac on September 17, 2014, 09:40:04 am
You have to ride a bike for me to hang out with you. Period.

That's not a requirement on Faceplant, so I have no use for it.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Rhino on September 17, 2014, 10:02:35 am
You have to ride a bike for me to hang out with you. Period.

That's not a requirement on Faceplant, so I have no use for it.

That's exactly the difference. Most forums are about a particular interest and FB is everything. But there are interest specific stuff in FB.

My interests are MC's, my family, my friends, taildragger pilots, green chile and a couple of other things. Since there aren't any forums just for my family, I use FB. Also, probably other taildragger pilot forums out there but one in particular on FB I like a lot. Very similar to this forum.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2014, 01:31:48 pm
The riding groups on FB have absorbed the "local" MC forums in many of the larger cities.  And they are either open or closed groups/members and some allow "guest" ghost veiwers, actually they are forums with FB as the host app.

Facebook and Twitter are absorbing most of the internet users of this generation.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 17, 2014, 01:36:01 pm
Agreed- that is why I joined and poked around (Easy Boys!) in the first place- it is the future and I think we will all have to participate to some degree.

Remember the title of this thread: I don't get it, that does not mean I do not believe it is popular or will not become a necessity at some point. I don't get a lot of things, that does not mean they are not popular.  ;)

Brian

The riding groups on FB have absorbed the "local" MC forums in many of the larger cities.  And they are either open or closed groups/members and some allow "guest" ghost veiwers, actually they are forums with FB as the host app.

Facebook and Twitter are absorbing most of the internet users of this generation.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: stevewfl on September 17, 2014, 01:52:14 pm
^^^likewise my friend. I've almost become comfortable with FB.  I'm still rather close-minded to twitter but one day I'll come around  :-X
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: 1jeep on September 17, 2014, 01:56:45 pm
like others mostly for family and freinds i dont see much, other than that i dont typically post about every bowel movement or worthless thought up there in my head.

At work we just had a seminar about social media.....like they want us to use facebook...great more people in corporate america wasting the day away.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: B.D.F. on September 17, 2014, 02:45:06 pm
A long time ago, my brother- in- law said that TV was the greatest mechanism ever built to waste man's time (and he is an E.E. so not opposed to TV or a luddite). And I think that was true then..... but now there is texting and F.B.. Good to know the the blame is not on TV anymore.   

:rotflmao:

Brian (who has "LIKE" stickers all over his TV)

like others mostly for family and freinds i dont see much, other than that i dont typically post about every bowel movement or worthless thought up there in my head.

At work we just had a seminar about social media.....like they want us to use facebook...great more people in corporate america wasting the day away.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Conrad on September 18, 2014, 04:35:57 am
Can't really dispute that, I guess (or won't, at any rate...)

Taken literally, your statement that FB is like a forum is basically correct... With the caveat being that the range of topics is (thankfully) much more limited (usually  ;)) by a general consensus.

I don't think anyone would dispute the following statement : "There is a GREAT deal of "narcissism, self-pity and voyeurism" on FB."  (Although this too, may just be my opinion.)

I guess I had always assumed (or hoped) that the signal-to-noise ratio was a bit more favourable in 'here' though... 

That may be my mistake - but I've been wrong before.

Jamie

+1 on the signal-to-noise ratio.
Title: Re: Facebook.... I don't get it.
Post by: Outback_Jon on September 20, 2014, 08:33:23 am
Now with that said, I am actually working on a blog called 'Kirby's Korner' for my web page. I guess that could be either pathetic or humorous and it is up to each one of us to decide which I figure.

Brian
Does it have to be one or the other?   ;D