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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: Jjc331 on August 27, 2018, 06:37:28 pm

Title: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on August 27, 2018, 06:37:28 pm
Hi i just bought a 2005 concours with 1800 miles for $500!!! The motor was locked up and i was hoping it was just hydrolocked. When i got home and started tinkering with it i realized that it had been in a flood and needs a rebuild or new motor. Possibly the started and alternator. The exhaust pipes are completly rotted. The wiring is corroded also.I live in newyork state and im gonna need some good deals on parts and was hoping someone could maybe point in the right direction. Maybe there is a place that deals only in concours stuff. Thanks for you help.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: jettawreck on August 27, 2018, 08:14:55 pm
I would consider parting the current damaged one out (especially if the plastics and luggage are good) and buying another one.
Loved my 2005.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on August 27, 2018, 08:39:06 pm
Now im seeing there are a lot of parts for sale cheap on ebay. Might even switch out to the ninja 1000 cams and carb and rebuild the engine
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: BobCT on August 28, 2018, 09:43:31 am
Hi Jjc, I am looking for a frame with title if you decide to part it out.
Bob
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: connie_rider on August 28, 2018, 10:04:20 am
Jjc, I don't want to sound negative, but it would be cheaper to part this bike out and buy another that is running.
      another option would be to buy a wrecked/running bike and make 1 from the 2.

Explanation: individually buying all the parts you need to replace already includes motor/wiring/exhaust.
                   Because of flood damage, (as a minimum) you'll probably also need wheel bearings, carb rebuild and possibly a rear gear box.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on August 28, 2018, 03:46:36 pm
Hi Jjc, I am looking for a frame with title if you decide to part it out.
Bob

I'm with you on that one... maybe, depending on if water sat inside any frame parts...

as to JJC....
I know it sounds like you got a great 'deal', but in reality, the luster of the $500 bike, as described by your posting, will result in no less than $2500 more worth of parts (at a minumum, and probably well over $3k in reality), a lot of cursing, a lot of time you will never get back, and a general 'double face palm' by you downstream when the reality strikes coldly.

I don't say this lightly, as I have purchased bikes for 'parts' that cost me $500... and ended up doing something silly like creating a one of a kind cool bike (COGZilla)...and it was a 'naked bike' buld...
but it was not without a LOT of time, and a LOT of money...(roughly $2k in good parts and paint) and I'm a value shopper, and pretty much expert on Concours mechanics, and the bike I bought, tho fugly, and wrecked, actually ran...and was never in a flood.

Cut your losses, sell it to BOB
and buy a running bike, especially if you have never delved into the intricate points of repairing a Concours.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on August 29, 2018, 09:26:11 pm
Considering this bikes low mileage(1800)and good condition of the rest of motorcycle it deserves to be reconditioned rather then parted out. There seems to be a few bikes already being parted out on ebay. The parts can actually be bought fairly inexpensively if you buy them used. Without spending anymore then $1500 invested this bike could be restored very nicely and easily. Here is the one pic i took of it.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Rick Hall on August 29, 2018, 09:56:56 pm
Considering this bikes low mileage(1800)and good condition of the rest of motorcycle it deserves to be reconditioned rather then parted out. ...

If (big if) it's 1,800 actual miles. I have two C-10's in my basement, both have rolled the odo. Logging over 100,000 miles on a Concours happens with regularity. Just saying.

And any C-10 part you buy (Ebay, scrap yard, private vendor) was made over 15 years ago and is being sold for a reason. Sometimes it's excess inventory, sometimes it's total junk.

The C-10 is a truly wonderful bike, ask anyone here that owns one! Prime examples now sell in the $2000 range, I (and many) see you spending that much getting your baby 'round the world non stop' road worthy.

We are here to help you source parts though, and we have a thousand years of experience to share. Don't hesitate to ask... ANYTHING!

Rick
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: connie_rider on August 30, 2018, 07:53:09 am
Good point Rick.
 Jjc331, if you opt to go on with the project. We're here to answer your questions.
We're just concerned this will be a more expensive/difficult project than you might realize.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Mettler1 on August 31, 2018, 09:23:18 pm
   I would rather has a running C10 with a 100,00 miles on it than ANY C10 that has been in a flood!!! :(
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on September 02, 2018, 06:25:34 pm
Instead of focusing the problems that could go wrong with this bike because of the flood damage there is another view that I think it is important. There is a very good chance that If I put some used parts on it to get it going again it could work out well and without investing too much money. This is a perfect excuse to put together a concours with ninja 1000 cams, carbs, and build a nice port and polished head and get the head milled as well. I was wondering though what are some good suspension upgrades. I was thinking about maybe putting some stiffer fork springs in ot to get it to handle better.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 02, 2018, 07:13:53 pm
Instead of focusing the problems that could go wrong with this bike because of the flood damage there is another view that I think it is important. There is a very good chance that If I put some used parts on it to get it going again it could work out well and without investing too much money. This is a perfect excuse to put together a concours with ninja 1000 cams, carbs, and build a nice port and polished head and get the head milled as well. I was wondering though what are some good suspension upgrades. I was thinking about maybe putting some stiffer fork springs in ot to get it to handle better.
SERIOUSLY.. read your post...   handle better? how does it handle right now?
you have a frozen bike, never rode it..
lets just dispell with the 'wetdreams', Ninja carbs , and Ninja cams, and "ported and polished" and 'milled'heads ...(You have no clue to how to extract horsepower from this bike..) are not gonna get you anywheres.. youre gonna need pistons, rings, boring, ( did you even pull the head off, to see what's inside???) rod bearing, transmission parts, just to start... Ninja cams? man...  simply put, the voices of us that have been thru this all, going nigh on 15 years, (on this 32 year old model...) when "we" began hotroddding the engine, can all say it's a pipe dream... ok? and SISF and I, along with others, actually had fully operational bikes as a start point..  making it simply a running bike will be enough of a challenge monetarily for you, and without it as an example of a "correct in every way" running Concours... well, I know I cannot disuade you, but man, don't be so bull headed. you have talked, and noted so many things you want to 'replace' with better, in these posts, and really have no idea of the probability of $$$$ you intend to dump, on a bike, that was locked up, rusted internally, bad harness, exhaust roached, and all of the invisible things we know, not just guess about, exist.

so the low mile bike, low mile chassis, low mile drive train, and wheels and everything right down to the steering head, and inside of the gas tank...and depending 'how deep it was sitting in water, and how long' are not really any 'deal' anymore.


best you rip things apart, and total up a simple "parts needed to make it a running Concours" very soon..

I'm really sorry, and I'm not just addressing "what could be wrong", I'm saying what IS wrong.. your view seems to be extremely 'optomi$tic", and in fact the only person being lead to believe any semblence of outcome, well. you decide.
I already noted spending $3k+ on a "totally customized nekid bike, sans fairings.. because I already owned a Conni.. my $500 parts bike made the big mistake of "starting" once I supplied fuel, and a battery... do I regret my venture... No. would I repeat it, or suggest someone else doing it... HELLNO.

oh, I'm the retired "tech Editor" for COG... so I know every part and it's price.
just tossin THAT OUT, again.

Carefully pull all the nice fairing and plastic parts off the bike...
contact Jettawreck, and sell them to him for the price you paid for the bike.. and toss the rest... you will be even then. I'm sure Jetta would actually give you $50 more, than you paid, just to get good plastic... as that all that I can say would be worth anything.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: jettawreck on September 02, 2018, 07:52:06 pm
Must be a bit of misunderstanding as I no longer own a Concours for the last few years. Currently riding a Honda ST1300.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: jettawreck on September 02, 2018, 07:56:25 pm
I would consider parting the current damaged one out (especially if the plastics and luggage are good) and buying another one.
Loved my 2005.

I was just trying to say if it were mine (the OP's flood damaged 2005) I would part it out instead of trying to refurbish it into a rider.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: route66tc on September 03, 2018, 09:10:53 am
https://orlando.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2005-kawasaki-concours-1000/6683269928.html (https://orlando.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2005-kawasaki-concours-1000/6683269928.html)
Just buy this and be done with it.  Keep what you already have for a parts bike.

I'll jump on the bandwagon of don't fix what you have.  All the reasons have been given.  Open your mind a bit.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on September 03, 2018, 11:15:17 am
No im going to fix it. I wanted a project anyway something to work on over the winter. I have the skill set and the money to do it. I have a motorcycle lift too. Plus I was thinking about putting a nitrous kit on it. What is the largest shot you guys have seen someone pit on one of these wothout modifying the lower end.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 03, 2018, 12:52:59 pm
http://pronitrous.com/nitrous-kits-systems/163-cold-fusion-nitrous-4-carb-motorcycle-40-300hp-w2lb-bottle-line-custom-race-kit.html (http://pronitrous.com/nitrous-kits-systems/163-cold-fusion-nitrous-4-carb-motorcycle-40-300hp-w2lb-bottle-line-custom-race-kit.html)

GO FOR IT... :chugbeer: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: route66tc on September 03, 2018, 01:48:22 pm
[url]http://pronitrous.com/nitrous-kits-systems/163-cold-fusion-nitrous-4-carb-motorcycle-40-300hp-w2lb-bottle-line-custom-race-kit.html[/url] ([url]http://pronitrous.com/nitrous-kits-systems/163-cold-fusion-nitrous-4-carb-motorcycle-40-300hp-w2lb-bottle-line-custom-race-kit.html[/url])

GO FOR IT... :chugbeer: :popcorn: :popcorn:

I'm in! :banana :banana
I even have a title for the build thread.  "The Project They Said DON'T DO!"  Great title!  When you get done you can tell everybody how the Concours crowd had no faith and tried like heck to get you to give up and part it out.  Everybody loves a good story like that!  I'm serious.  You need to make sure to post lots of pics (or links to an album), so we can all watch.  We need more entertainment!!  We're fixin to warm up that credit card with lots of great stuff!  I'm waiting on that new thread with the before pic!
LET THE ADVENTURE BEGIN!
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Mettler1 on September 03, 2018, 01:57:48 pm
No im going to fix it. I wanted a project anyway something to work on over the winter. I have the skill set and the money to do it. I have a motorcycle lift too. Plus I was thinking about putting a nitrous kit on it. What is the largest shot you guys have seen someone pit on one of these wothout modifying the lower end.


   How about pics???  Nothing I would like better than to see a C10 resurrected!!
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on September 05, 2018, 04:06:57 pm
I love the enthusiasm. This is what im talking about. I can post some pics bit i dont know how to. Lol. Says the file is too big. Anyone have any insight? I tried to get an app to make them smaller but i couldnt get it to work.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Rubber_Snake on September 05, 2018, 04:29:54 pm
I love the enthusiasm. This is what im talking about. I can post some pics bit i dont know how to. Lol. Says the file is too big. Anyone have any insight? I tried to get an app to make them smaller but i couldnt get it to work.

I had to download some free image compression software and a jpg to png converter app in order to upload pics.  It’s a bit of a pain, but once you get used too it, it isnt to tough.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 05, 2018, 06:44:35 pm
I love the enthusiasm. This is what im talking about. I can post some pics bit i dont know how to. Lol. Says the file is too big. Anyone have any insight? I tried to get an app to make them smaller but i couldnt get it to work.

well, first off, set your camera's photo setting to some lower resolution, it doesn't take 10Megapixels to capture simple images.. it's overkill..
then, use software like this, freeware,
https://www.irfanview.net/ (https://www.irfanview.net/)

I'm using an old version, but it's free, aand works great..
drop a photo into it, and pull down the 'image' menue, and select 'resize and re sample' and resize it 'in half', and repeat as necessary, you can reduce big file sizes down dramatically, to a format the 'add attachments' to a post shows as the size requirements... just re-save any reduced file in the same folder it lived in, on your computer, as "cropped xxxx.jpg"

easy.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: route66tc on September 08, 2018, 06:44:50 am
If you don't want to mess with all of the software, send me a private message and if you can email them to me or text them to me, I'll do it for you.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 08, 2018, 05:32:22 pm
If you don't want to mess with all of the software, send me a private message and if you can email them to me or text them to me, I'll do it for you.

c'mon bro, make him work.... it's fun, and free, and even funnier to watch... don't ruin the progression.... :deadhorse: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :chugbeer: :battle: :salute:
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: route66tc on September 09, 2018, 04:42:14 am
c'mon bro, make him work.... it's fun, and free, and even funnier to watch... don't ruin the progression.... :deadhorse: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :chugbeer: :battle: :salute:

I have dealt with home computer users for 16 years.  Long story short, I'm pretty apathetic when it comes to getting people to do anything other than to click on a hyperlink.  So here we go....a hyperlink for the OP to resize pics without the need for software.  If one can't do this.....well I don't know what to tell you.
http://www.simpleimageresizer.com/ (http://www.simpleimageresizer.com/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfbQ81SJn8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfbQ81SJn8s)
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on October 14, 2018, 08:24:05 am
Ok so i have an update for the flood bike. I found on craigslist for free a 2001 kawasaki concours. I went and picked it up immedeatly.  The bike has been sitting for at least 5 years so the carbs will need to be gone through and the rest of the bike serviced. The fairings arent in great ahape but the bike has 35000 miles. So i can take all the good parts off the flood damaged bike and put them on this new bike and have a nice bike when im all done.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: route66tc on October 14, 2018, 05:26:47 pm
Ok so i have an update for the flood bike. I found on craigslist for free a 2001 kawasaki concours. I went and picked it up immedeatly.  The bike has been sitting for at least 5 years so the carbs will need to be gone through and the rest of the bike serviced. The fairings arent in great ahape but the bike has 35000 miles. So i can take all the good parts off the flood damaged bike and put them on this new bike and have a nice bike when im all done.
Good move! 
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: connie_rider on October 15, 2018, 01:08:36 pm
Now your on a roll.
With that, it's doable.

Best of luck on your project.
Keep us posted on progress..

Ride safe, ted
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: BobCT on October 15, 2018, 05:34:50 pm
Good find, was that the bike near Jersey City. I was going to jump on it too. Seller said it was white.
Pictures are over due, at least take photos to record your bike resurrection.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: Jjc331 on October 15, 2018, 05:52:20 pm
Yea bike was in jersey city. Apparently it was a police bike from texas. Thats what he told me. Got it to start with starting fluid. It came with some serious bars to protect the fairings, it has no windsheild but there is an extension for the windsheild, also came with a bra for the tank. I got the carbs off and all the parts soaking in carb cleaner now. Im looking forward to getting this bike 100% together.
Title: Re: 2005 concours flood damage
Post by: BobCT on October 15, 2018, 06:38:41 pm
Good luck with the resurrection