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Title: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 21, 2011, 02:27:11 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killer-weed-20110928,0,2646834.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killer-weed-20110928,0,2646834.story)

Great story written about the chemist who turn a natural herb (my opinion) into a killer with no intention of creating a drug for public use. For all the OldKids who remember the sixties you will find this interesting.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Y0ssarian on October 21, 2011, 04:37:28 pm
   Kind of amazing that they left out the reason why he synthesized those compounds. He got a great big grant to study the effects of marijuana on humans...but then couldn't get permission to use real marijuana. So he did what he had to do; he made what he needed. And now he's getting all sorts of crap for it.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 21, 2011, 06:17:23 pm
Interesting.....will pass that on to the writer of the story and ask "how come" he left it out? Thanks
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: booger on October 21, 2011, 07:32:57 pm
[url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killer-weed-20110928,0,2646834.story[/url] ([url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killer-weed-20110928,0,2646834.story[/url])

Great story written about the chemist who turn a natural herb (my opinion) into a killer with no intention of creating a drug for public use. For all the OldKids who remember the sixties you will find this interesting.


The only thing I remember about the 60's is $11 for a 3 finger baggie. ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 21, 2011, 07:51:41 pm
The only thing I remember about the 60's is $11 for a 3 finger baggie. ;)

weren't they called "lids" back then...
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 21, 2011, 07:55:55 pm
I have no idea why I'm interested in this...I must be :nuts:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Excavator on October 21, 2011, 08:05:36 pm

weren't they called "lids" back then...

They were called that in the 70s for sure....of course I just remember hearing that in high school.

Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 21, 2011, 08:08:54 pm
Yes, yes.  All theory and hypothetical suppositions.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 21, 2011, 08:33:13 pm
Yes, yes.  All theory and hypothetical suppositions.

Indeed...  8)
 
Why am I all of the sudden craving 7/11 nachos reading this thread though...  ???
 
 
 
I like the last couple sentences of this read Jim, whenever I hear martini I think of you.  ;)
 
"Huffman has never considered smoking his compounds, but he did smoke marijuana — once. It was in the mid-1990s, at a research conference in Arizona.

Two researchers flew in from Amsterdam with "very high-quality Dutch hash" tucked into a matchbox, he said. They offered. He smoked — scientific curiosity prevailed.

The effects were similar to two-and-a-half martinis, he recalled. And the smoke burned his throat.

"I decided to stick to martinis," the professor said. "They're legal."
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 21, 2011, 08:54:47 pm
I can certainly attest to the effects of 2.5 martinis...  as to the other...I'll drink the fifth.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 21, 2011, 08:57:14 pm
I can certainly attest to the effects of 2.5 martinis...  as to the other...I'll drink the fifth.

 :-X   :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 21, 2011, 09:00:12 pm
And I cannot say 'reefer' with a straight face.  I spent too much time listening and watching these two in the early 70's.

Cheech & Chong Up in smoke car joke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX_Wuvya0iU#ws)


They totally ruined me...
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Nosmo on October 22, 2011, 01:02:56 am
KNOCK  KNOCK  KNOCK

"Who is it?"

"It's Dave."

"Dave's not here."

I never smoked but I wouldn't have made it through high school without Cheech & Chong and Dave.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 22, 2011, 10:38:31 am
I still love the Cheech & Chong movies, even knowing every line I still laugh my butt off!  ;D
 
Ain't that a peach!!  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 22, 2011, 04:41:44 pm
Ah the Karmic wheel...... watched Cheech and Chong with my kids once......ever since they can't resist knocking on the bathroom door and yelling "Dave's not here man"....  and an ounce of pot was a LID and 2.5 martini would never make me want to eat 7/11 nachos.....barf them maybe but not crave them!  :'(
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 22, 2011, 04:44:27 pm
Ah the Karmic wheel...... watched Cheech and Chong with my kids once......ever since they can't resist knocking on the bathroom door and yelling "Dave's not here man"....  and an ounce of pot was a LID and 2.5 martini would never make me want to eat 7/11 nachos.....barf them maybe but not crave them!  :'(

I only thought they were for display....  It's like eating Mo's pickled eggs.  Bad things can happen.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Mister Tee on October 22, 2011, 05:37:57 pm
Now, the classic 1936 Reefer Madness is a must view for all wannabe toke heads!!
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 22, 2011, 06:19:01 pm
Mr Tee is CORRECT......so drink a couple of Martini's before you do. Me I am left to drink Dalhwinne tonight and think of the old days!  HMMMMMMM and maybe some 7/11 nachos.......or at least a dominos pizza delivered.  ???
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 22, 2011, 07:50:19 pm
Go with the pizza.  You won't be sorry.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: GeeBeav on October 22, 2011, 08:55:24 pm
...  and an ounce of pot was a LID

It's all very fuzzy, but I seem to remember a lid as being 3 fingers - an unweighed amount, but somewhat less than an oz. That may have varied by region.

Disclaimer - I have no personal knowledge of lids, ozs, or marijuana. This is all just hearsay. I think. Can't remember. Don't quote me on that.  8)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: sherob on October 22, 2011, 09:43:58 pm
I grew up in HI in the 70's... you could walk out to the cane fields, and if not greedy, pick what you wanted, dry it out, and have some good stuff.  When I moved back to the mainland in 77, middle of my Jr year of HS, the stuff available was pretty nasty.

This year in CO, it's on the ballot for legalization... not just medical use, but personal use.  I can't wait to see the results.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 22, 2011, 11:43:49 pm
This year in CO, it's on the ballot for legalization... not just medical use, but personal use.  I can't wait to see the results.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: mjrfd99 on October 23, 2011, 06:48:14 am
"Come to Jamaica and feel alright"   ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 23, 2011, 06:49:20 am
Jamaica mon...
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: roadkoan on October 23, 2011, 08:29:49 am
Now, the classic 1936 Reefer Madness is a must view for all wannabe toke heads!!

My Dad tells about how this was once presented as the real deal.....
Showed it in school as an educational film, he was already playing in a band and "knew better", so he describes it as one of the pivotal moments where his generation began to "turn on"

Hard for my generation to understand how they ever tried to take it seriously. Ya want to ask the writers "Have you ever actually seen anyone high on pot?"
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHRN4upQFXF8Gv6mrSPDvYjsWVUZEGa2xNFQzZOXH5HvVYwp5e)
Or if they could at least done a follow-up called Tequila maddness!?
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg7RPXeFFD6ABZm0mBQYNSzbU7IpLH724zLU6n9BoUK23xv-bJhQ)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 23, 2011, 08:43:54 am
Suddenly I have a craving for homemade chocolate chip cookies.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 23, 2011, 09:43:35 am
Ya'll just crack me up!
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: cmoore on October 25, 2011, 04:45:23 am
Yea, I would rather smoke a lid than drink a martini or anything else for that matter. I wonder what they call them these days? The mexican poot weed they use to sell in Texas cost $10.00 in the 70's. At some point the good stuff from Southern Mexico and points farther south started making its way to the local neighborhoods. The cost of doing business went up significantly at that point. That stuff was everywhere. I guess it still is. So much for the war on drugs.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 25, 2011, 05:09:28 am
Yea, I would rather smoke a lid than drink a martini or anything else for that matter. I wonder what they call them these days? The mexican poot weed they use to sell in Texas cost $10.00 in the 70's. At some point the good stuff from Southern Mexico and points farther south started making its way to the local neighborhoods. The cost of doing business went up significantly at that point. That stuff was everywhere. I guess it still is. So much for the war on drugs.

I'm pretty sure that they still call 'em martinis.    ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 25, 2011, 05:16:33 am
You rang?
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 25, 2011, 05:19:23 am
There's the martini expert! They still call em that right boss? 
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 25, 2011, 05:29:29 am
Yep and there are at least a million combinations that one can try and the best of all they're still legal.  Just don't drive or act up in public.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tonedeaf on October 25, 2011, 08:28:47 pm
I can certainly attest to the effects of 2.5 martinis...  as to the other...I'll drink the fifth.

Shouldn't that be 2.2 martinis? Seeing as for many of us geezers this was our introduction to converting English to metric (fortunately for our survival rate Japanese motorcycles came along a little later).
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Strawboss on October 26, 2011, 01:58:15 pm
I've treated maybe 5 or 6 people who have taken this stuff before Ohio banned it and took it off the shelves a few weeks ago. Good way to try to kill yourself. Mimicked signs and symptoms similar cocaine from what I saw, it would probably kill anybody over 50 in my opinion. But every single person who took it sweared that they would NEVER,EVER take it again! Scared them that bad. Of course they were all under 25 y/o with me standing next to them when they said it.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 26, 2011, 02:11:32 pm
I've treated maybe 5 or 6 people who have taken this stuff before Ohio banned it and took it off the shelves a few weeks ago. Good way to try to kill yourself. Mimicked signs and symptoms similar cocaine from what I saw, it would probably kill anybody over 50 in my opinion. But every single person who took it sweared that they would NEVER,EVER take it again! Scared them that bad. Of course they were all under 25 y/o with me standing next to them when they said it.

I'll stick with the natural stuff thanks, the way God intended. *
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Strawboss on October 26, 2011, 02:17:27 pm
Yeah, I agree Conrad, folks who take this stuff thinking its some sort of legal synthesized "pot" get a real big surprise when they end up in the hospital almost dead, or scared half to death.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: T Cro ® on October 26, 2011, 02:35:33 pm
Yeah, I agree Conrad, folks who take this stuff thinking its some sort of legal synthesized "pot" get a real big surprise when they end up in the hospital almost dead, or scared half to death.

The adult kid of our friends tried this fake crap while at collage and ended up in the hospital because he tried to play tag with cars out on the highway. The little $hit bounced off of several cars and caused numerous wrecks as cars tried to avoid hitting him. I smoked pot from the late 70's through the 90's before quitting and never once did I ever think about doing anything quite so dam stupid and dangerous.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 26, 2011, 03:00:05 pm
I've treated maybe 5 or 6 people who have taken this stuff before Ohio banned it and took it off the shelves a few weeks ago. Good way to try to kill yourself. Mimicked signs and symptoms similar cocaine from what I saw, it would probably kill anybody over 50 in my opinion. But every single person who took it sweared that they would NEVER,EVER take it again! Scared them that bad. Of course they were all under 25 y/o with me standing next to them when they said it.

As I think back to my younger years I think I said that with mostly everything (at least I would hypothetically) including alcohol.  I don't know about the stuff that's out there now (hypothetically).

And Conrad is right, if it's grown on the side of the road it's ok by me (talking agriculture hypothetically).   ::)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 26, 2011, 03:01:08 pm
The adult kid of our friends tried this fake crap while at collage and ended up in the hospital because he tried to play tag with cars out on the highway. The little $hit bounced off of several cars and caused numerous wrecks as cars tried to avoid hitting him. I smoked pot from the late 70's through the 90's before quitting and never once did I ever think about doing anything quite so dam stupid and dangerous.

Are you sure it didn't have long term effects?  I mean, how do you know?  Hypothetically of course.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: sherob on October 26, 2011, 03:44:39 pm
Are you sure it didn't have long term effects?  I mean, how do you know?  Hypothetically of course.

He forgot what he was taling about... and he's busy eating some Cheeto's right now.  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 26, 2011, 04:20:28 pm
I'm in that group as well!
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 26, 2011, 05:00:59 pm
He forgot what he was taling about... and he's busy eating some Cheeto's right now.  :rotflmao:

Orange fingers, a dead give away your high...  8)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: T Cro ® on October 26, 2011, 05:06:19 pm
Are you sure it didn't have long term effects?  I mean, how do you know?  Hypothetically of course.

Last years salary was roughly 125K you tell me.....
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 26, 2011, 05:53:39 pm
You're here aren't you?  Some would consider that a side effect.....  ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 26, 2011, 07:11:35 pm
You're here aren't you?  Some would consider that a side effect.....  ;)

 :rotflmao:
 
 
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 26, 2011, 07:14:01 pm
Last years salary was roughly 125K you tell me.....

That's a lot of lids...  :-X
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: cmoore on October 27, 2011, 03:58:42 am
Yea, that is a lot of lids. Good for you. You want long term effects keep drinking martinis or whatever they call them these days.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: gPink on October 27, 2011, 04:10:42 am
I think they call them...martinis.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 27, 2011, 05:07:42 am
Last years salary was roughly 125K you tell me.....

See? You could have been making double that...
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: T Cro ® on October 27, 2011, 05:31:59 am
See? You could have been making double that...

With no collage edumacation? Only way to do that would be to be dealing weed!  ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: T Cro ® on October 27, 2011, 05:34:52 am
Yea, that is a lot of lids. Good for you. You want long term effects keep drinking martinis or whatever they call them these days.

Jim likes them Martians me I prefer Bloody Mary or Marias..................
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 27, 2011, 05:59:10 am
Actually, I like Bloody Marys as well.  I'm an equal opportunity drinker!
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 27, 2011, 08:48:13 am
With no collage edumacation? Only way to do that would be to be dealing weed!  ;)

So you and Homer missed out on art and school eh?    ;)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: ZG on October 27, 2011, 11:05:29 am
Actually, I like Bloody Marys as well.  I'm an equal opportunity drinker!

Me too, especially on long flights or camping!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 27, 2011, 11:32:34 am

Me too, especially on long flights or camping!  :thumbs:

That agricultural stuff is good while camping too, or so I've been told.
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Excavator on October 27, 2011, 11:40:16 am
That agricultural stuff is good while camping too, or so I've been told.

No need to travel........."Take a trip and never leave the farm".   8)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 27, 2011, 11:44:48 am
No need to travel........."Take a trip and never leave the farm".   8)


 8)

I forgot all about that song.

Jim Stafford - Wildwood Weed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyY-6oh0Ow8#)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 27, 2011, 11:49:21 am
Here's another good one

I'll Never Smoke Weed With Willie Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfgZH8kFAKc#)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: roadkoan on October 27, 2011, 03:49:43 pm
And don't forget John Prine!
http://youtu.be/McF7ImZH7WY (http://youtu.be/McF7ImZH7WY)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: gPink on October 27, 2011, 04:34:35 pm
And don't forget John Prine!

:chugbeer:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: jimmymac on October 27, 2011, 06:49:19 pm
I miss it, and would never drink again if it was legal. ::)
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: Conrad on October 28, 2011, 05:08:48 am
And don't forget John Prine!

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Reefer Madness
Post by: tidewatergirl on October 28, 2011, 09:01:02 pm
I would be happy if they would just let us grow it.  Life would be sweet in the summer time with "tomato sandwichs and home grown buzz...a pepsi ....beach time....good surf" sigh` I got carried away.  BLING! It's cold, not summer and gerss aint legal......and not a fresh tomato anywhere. BAH! ???  Anyone got some good roller ball numbers I am more likely to win the Mega Ball.