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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Rhino on June 18, 2012, 04:16:52 pm

Title: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on June 18, 2012, 04:16:52 pm
Got my canyon cage today and installed 1 hour later. Very high quality and looks and feels very strong. Would definitely protect the bike in a drop. Great job Ryan!



(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/photobucket-1160-1340057520041.jpg)


(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/photobucket-7809-1340057564387.jpg)
Title: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: Gumby on June 18, 2012, 07:06:52 pm
Arrived and installed. Although the install was not hard, it was not a trivial task. I don't look forward to removing the fairing. All in all a great product. Thanks Ryan.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/CanyonCage1.jpg)

I really like the looks of these from the front.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/CanyonCage2.jpg)

The nut that is shinning in the picture below is going to cause some foul language for those with bigger hands.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/Bolt.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on June 18, 2012, 07:47:13 pm
I can't wait for mine.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Outback_Jon on June 18, 2012, 08:04:05 pm
Nice.  But shouldn't this be in the "Accessories and Modifications - C14" section?
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: RBX QB on June 18, 2012, 08:56:52 pm
Bastard... I'm not even on the round 2 list.  :( Then again, I did wait a bit before ordering.

Question... Do you think that the plastics would come off easier if you trimmed the web between the top 2 fins? I think others did that with the bathroom bars.
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: ZG on June 18, 2012, 08:58:32 pm
Very nice Gumbi!  8) :chugbeer:
 
Now lay her over and take some pics...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: Gsun on June 18, 2012, 09:23:47 pm
Yeah...like ZG!
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: maxtog on June 18, 2012, 09:27:52 pm
Is he already shipping????  I have heard nothing and was one of the first in the preorder!  I want mine!
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: Texas Concours14 on June 18, 2012, 09:43:16 pm
Got mine today!
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: Gumby on June 18, 2012, 09:53:22 pm
Bastard... I'm not even on the round 2 list.  :( Then again, I did wait a bit before ordering.

Question... Do you think that the plastics would come off easier if you trimmed the web between the top 2 fins? I think others did that with the bathroom bars.
MGvalerio could probably find a way to remove the fairing with out taking the cages off, but I'm thinking they have to come off.
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: RBX QB on June 18, 2012, 10:08:05 pm
MGvalerio could probably find a way to remove the fairing with out taking the cages off, ...

With a pocketknife and a gum wrapper, I'd guess.
Title: Re: Canyon Cage picture thread
Post by: Kinetic1 on June 19, 2012, 05:24:01 am
Is he already shipping????  I have heard nothing and was one of the first in the preorder!  I want mine!

I got a receipt in the mail with a ups tracking number right on it. Says mine will be here today.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 19, 2012, 05:38:59 am
Nice.  But shouldn't this be in the "Accessories and Modifications - C14" section?


Or at least the thread that was already created for it?  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9362 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9362)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 19, 2012, 06:09:01 am
It's ok here.  I've merged the other thread here.

Or at least the thread that was already created for it?  [url]http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9362[/url] ([url]http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9362[/url])


That link no longer works as that thread was merged into this one.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 19, 2012, 06:23:20 am
There is a tiny plastic tab between the fins.  It has no structural importance.  You can cut that tab and remove the plastic without removing the bar. 

Dalroo and I were orders 6 and 14 and we won't be shipped until the 3rd batch if we read it correctly in the thread. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 19, 2012, 06:50:50 am
I can't wait for mine to arrive. I have a helmet lock that I took off my wife's highway bars I'm going to install on them so I don't have to keep a bag empty to secure my helmet. Maybe some extra foot pegs to change up riding position on those long days, we'll see.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 19, 2012, 07:07:45 am
Danl, can you show us this helmet lock?  That sounds brilliant, a helmet lock on the bars.....I'd love to see it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on June 19, 2012, 07:49:29 am
Question - I have a toy hauler, but have not used for my Concours as I have been hesitant about tie down options. For those of you who have installed the canyon cages, do you think they might serve as points for strapping the bike? Or are they too low to hold bike vertical?

I've considered adding a detachable wheel chock to help, but even then I end up with the mounting rail in my living area, so I haven't even done that yet. And don't think canyon dancers are a good option with the aluminum bars.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Elfmaze on June 19, 2012, 08:02:01 am
I still like the utility of my "Dumbo ears"  But Its great that you guys got what you were looking for.  Ryan is a good guy in my book.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on June 19, 2012, 08:30:30 am
Question - I have a toy hauler, but have not used for my Concours as I have been hesitant about tie down options. For those of you who have installed the canyon cages, do you think they might serve as points for strapping the bike? Or are they too low to hold bike vertical?

I've considered adding a detachable wheel chock to help, but even then I end up with the mounting rail in my living area, so I haven't even done that yet. And don't think canyon dancers are a good option with the aluminum bars.

Thoughts?

I think they would be usable for tie down points. Put the soft tie right above the top cross bar.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 19, 2012, 09:04:08 am
Danl, can you show us this helmet lock?  That sounds brilliant, a helmet lock on the bars.....I'd love to see it.

This is the one we have:
https://www.denniskirk.com/kuryakyn/universal-helmet-lock.p327121.prd/327121.sku (https://www.denniskirk.com/kuryakyn/universal-helmet-lock.p327121.prd/327121.sku)

I'll probably spray paint it flat black. It'll get nicked up after a while but that's easy enough to touch up.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 19, 2012, 09:30:49 am
Question - I have a toy hauler, but have not used for my Concours as I have been hesitant about tie down options. For those of you who have installed the canyon cages, do you think they might serve as points for strapping the bike? Or are they too low to hold bike vertical?

I've considered adding a detachable wheel chock to help, but even then I end up with the mounting rail in my living area, so I haven't even done that yet. And don't think canyon dancers are a good option with the aluminum bars.

Thoughts?
The Connie is much to heavy and the bars are to low to use as the only point of support. It may possibly work with a wheel chock, and tie downs on the canyon cages as well as on the saddle guards.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 19, 2012, 09:55:45 am
Is he already shipping????  I have heard nothing and was one of the first in the preorder!  I want mine!

You ordered chrome, correct? The chroming process takes quite a bit longer than powder coating due to the "triple dip" process so that's the reason for the delay in shipping the chrome sets out. We're picking up both today though so hopefully we'll have most of the black sets from batch two and all the chrome sets sent out by the end of this week!

Dalroo and I were orders 6 and 14 and we won't be shipped until the 3rd batch if we read it correctly in the thread.

I apologize for the delay in getting your guys' orders out but I believe you were the two that ordered raw, correct? That's most likely why your guys' sets haven't gone out yet. We're picking up batch number two today though so number three isn't too far away.

EDIT: I actually just spoke to my shipping manager and he seems to think we're shipping the two full raw sets out TODAY! He's double checking on that right now but I'll let you guys know later on if they ship today! Woooo!

Question - I have a toy hauler, but have not used for my Concours as I have been hesitant about tie down options. For those of you who have installed the canyon cages, do you think they might serve as points for strapping the bike? Or are they too low to hold bike vertical?

I've considered adding a detachable wheel chock to help, but even then I end up with the mounting rail in my living area, so I haven't even done that yet. And don't think canyon dancers are a good option with the aluminum bars.

Thoughts?

We usually transport our Connies in an enclosed trailer and generally have no problem tying it down. I guess it all depends on where the available spots to latch onto in your trailer are, though. Anyway, I'm not sure how to describe the location that we latch onto exactly but we run soft ties up through the fairing parallel to the front forks on either side of the front wheel. You loop the soft ties around a solid spot (if memory serves me correct I think we use a location near the triple clamp or in that general area) then hook the tie down itself to the soft tie. This way it's high enough on the bike to hold it firmly vertical. Just avoid wrapping the soft tie around the handlebar itself as it's aluminum and has had a tendency to bend or even crack/break under enough pressure. Doing it this way has worked out great for us and we've never had an issue transporting a bike.

With that said, I'd avoid tying the bike down via the Canyon Cage for a few reasons. For one, it hasn't really been tested for that although I'm sure it's strong enough to hold up to the pressure. My real concern is that the Canyon Cage may be positioned a bit low on the bike to really hold it steady. I'd probably explore other options before tying down via the Canyon Cage...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 19, 2012, 10:13:44 am
Ryan,
 I just wanted to say that through all these threads and reply's you have been the most respectful guy I have seen in a while.  You explain and answer members questions without an attitude and that is outstanding.  When I had a rear bar arrive with a small defect you were first class in handling the issue.  I look forward to making a front bar purchase. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 19, 2012, 10:29:41 am
Ryan,
 I just wanted to say that through all these threads and reply's you have been the most respectful guy I have seen in a while.  You explain and answer members questions without an attitude and that is outstanding.  When I had a rear bar arrive with a small defect you were first class in handling the issue.  I look forward to making a front bar purchase.

Why thank you, Alpha! I really appreciate you saying that! Although I must say I'm only feigning respect and tolerance because I'm representing a company, I'm actually an ass in real life. HAH! Juuuust kidding! Honestly, though, I think our customer service here from all our Reps is one of the reasons people actually like doing business with us. We try to be as fair as possible and strive to actually satisfy our customers. I'm just glad people actually notice the effort!  :D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on June 19, 2012, 12:03:55 pm
Thanks for the info Ryan - and the update on the raw bars!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 19, 2012, 03:41:38 pm
Ryan,  I just wanted to say that through all these threads and reply's you have been the most respectful guy I have seen in a while.  You explain and answer members questions without an attitude and that is outstanding.  When I had a rear bar arrive with a small defect you were first class in handling the issue.  I look forward to making a front bar purchase.

+1  !!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 19, 2012, 03:54:38 pm
I can't wait for mine to arrive. I have a helmet lock that I took off my wife's highway bars I'm going to install on them so I don't have to keep a bag empty to secure my helmet.


Danl, can you show us this helmet lock?  That sounds brilliant, a helmet lock on the bars.....I'd love to see it.


More betterer! --->  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=293.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=293.0)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 19, 2012, 05:27:34 pm
The thing is, I already have the one I linked. I did look at the license plate mount one a while back, and would have bought it if I didn't think the one I have would work on the cages. We'll see, maybe it won't fit right.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 19, 2012, 05:43:11 pm
The thing is, I already have the one I linked. I did look at the license plate mount one a while back, and would have bought it if I didn't think the one I have would work on the cages. We'll see, maybe it won't fit right. 

Yikes- what I showed you was NOT a wimpy license plate helmet lock!!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on June 19, 2012, 07:07:01 pm
Why thank you, Alpha! I really appreciate you saying that! Although I must say I'm only feigning respect and tolerance because I'm representing a company, I'm actually an ass in real life. HAH! Juuuust kidding! Honestly, though, I think our customer service here from all our Reps is one of the reasons people actually like doing business with us. We try to be as fair as possible and strive to actually satisfy our customers. I'm just glad people actually notice the effort!  :D


Yup! Ryan rocks! Now, just one question:

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/tmbevtfd/wherescanyoncage.jpg)  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 19, 2012, 07:19:35 pm
oops, I see now- i hadn't enlarged the pic. Yes, that is definitely nicer than what I have but I wonder if it would fit with a Givi rack installed, it has brackets that run in that general area.

I could probably drill a hole in the Givi bracket and use a padlock for the helmet.

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 20, 2012, 11:22:08 am
(with proper tools, I wouldn't want to try that inner nut without a quality fine tooth ratchet wrench)
Ryan, this should be added to the tools required. As Kinetic said, I am not so sure I could of installed these without the right tools.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 20, 2012, 11:43:50 am
Ryan, this should be added to the tools required. As Kinetic said, I am not so sure I could of installed these without the right tools.

Good call. I'll add that to the mounting instructions right now before I forget! Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 20, 2012, 12:05:01 pm
By "quality fine tooth ratchet wrench" do you mean like a gear wrench?  A socket won't work?  What's the story?  Can you take a picture?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on June 20, 2012, 12:05:49 pm
Received my UPS gift this morning (exactly 1 week from CA). Hope to get them mounted up later, but summer decided to move in with 95 degree temps and extreme humidity. VA summers suck!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 20, 2012, 12:25:42 pm
By "quality fine tooth ratchet wrench" do you mean like a gear wrench?  A socket won't work?  What's the story?  Can you take a picture?


Yes a gear wrench. I was able to get a socket on the left side from underneath, but no way can you get a socket on the right side.

http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020 (http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on June 20, 2012, 12:46:24 pm
Yes a gear wrench. I was able to get a socket on the left side from underneath, but no way can you get a socket on the right side.

[url]http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020[/url] ([url]http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020[/url])

So what's the bolt size that need the gear wrench? I'll be near Lowes today and can pickone up.
Thanks
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 20, 2012, 12:54:28 pm
So what's the bolt size that need the gear wrench? I'll be near Lowes today and can pickone up.
Thanks
5/8 just like the link shows  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 20, 2012, 12:55:36 pm
Yes a gear wrench. I was able to get a socket on the left side from underneath, but no way can you get a socket on the right side.

[url]http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020[/url] ([url]http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/combination/stockdetails.jsp?view=SAE&part=9020[/url])


Someone called about this yesterday and I was having a hard time understanding him. Can't you just use an extender on a normal socket wrench and cinch that bad boy down? He was saying there wasn't enough room for him to twist his normal socket wrench to tighten the bolt down but I believe he was trying to tighten it from inside the fairing. All you need to do is access that bolt from the exterior of the fairing with a basic socket wrench extender. Unless, of course, I'm missing something. This has already come up a few times though so I would like to completely understand what the problem is. Maybe someone can take a photo of the issue at hand?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on June 20, 2012, 12:57:38 pm
5/8 just like the link shows  ;D
Duh!....thanks :nuts:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on June 20, 2012, 12:59:18 pm
I will take a pic when I get home. There is not enough clearance to get a ratchet and socket of the nut. You can only use a wrench and if it isn't fine tooth you will be there a while because you can only swing the wrench about 5 degrees through the fairing vents.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on June 20, 2012, 01:11:14 pm
Someone called about this yesterday and I was having a hard time understanding him. Can't you just use an extender on a normal socket wrench and cinch that bad boy down? He was saying there wasn't enough room for him to twist his normal socket wrench to tighten the bolt down but I believe he was trying to tighten it from inside the fairing. All you need to do is access that bolt from the exterior of the fairing with a basic socket wrench extender. Unless, of course, I'm missing something. This has already come up a few times though so I would like to completely understand what the problem is. Maybe someone can take a photo of the issue at hand?


Pretty sure he is talking about the top nut on the strut facing the front of the bike. I was able to get a socket on it and you can only get one click at a time between the plastic vents but only took a minute or 2 to get it done.

The nut in question on the right side:
(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/photobucket-15296-1340219298543.jpg)

Now the same nut with socket wrench on it:
(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/photobucket-17187-1340219285264.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 20, 2012, 01:15:01 pm
Someone called about this yesterday and I was having a hard time understanding him. Can't you just use an extender on a normal socket wrench and cinch that bad boy down? He was saying there wasn't enough room for him to twist his normal socket wrench to tighten the bolt down but I believe he was trying to tighten it from inside the fairing. All you need to do is access that bolt from the exterior of the fairing with a basic socket wrench extender. Unless, of course, I'm missing something. This has already come up a few times though so I would like to completely understand what the problem is. Maybe someone can take a photo of the issue at hand?
First get the brackets through the fins then mount to the back bolt by the seat. Do not screw the cages to the front motor mount until you get the top welded bolt of the support bracket through the hole in the top of the cage. Then insert allen bolt for motor mount, and insert allen bolt for lower end of support bracket. It takes almost three hands but I was able to do it by myself with no scratches. Once you have the front allens semi-tight you need to put the nut on the welded bolt of the support bracket, hopefully you do not have fat fingers. A gear wrench makes it easy to tighten this nut on the left side, but on the right side it is near impossible to tighten that nut without a gear wrench. I suppose one could get a socket on it if you remove the radiator hose but you will still chance beating up the fins on your fairing if you use a socket wrench.

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on June 20, 2012, 01:18:00 pm
First get the brackets through the fins then mount to the back bolt by the seat. Do not screw the cages to the front motor mount until you get the top welded bolt of the support bracket through the hole in the top of the cage. Then insert allen bolt for motor mount, and insert allen bolt for lower end of support bracket. It takes almost three hands but I was able to do it by myself with no scratches. Once you have the front allens semi-tight you need to put the nut on the welded bolt of the support bracket, hopefully you do not have fat fingers. A gear wrench makes it easy to tighten this nut on the left side, but on the right side it is near impossible to tighten that nut without a gear wrench. I suppose one could get a socket on it if you remove the radiator hose but you will still chance beating up the fins on your fairing if you use a socket wrench.

Does that make sense?

As you can see I was able to get the socket on it without removing the hose. Just squeeze it a bit. Yes I beat up the fins but they were already beat up. You could just put some tape over the fins first.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on June 20, 2012, 01:23:42 pm
I'll bet that you could get this ratchet/socket combo on that nut without much of a problem.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8819.msg107232#msg107232 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8819.msg107232#msg107232)

I bought myself that set and it's the best ratchet set that I've ever used. I raved about this set to some of my friends and two of them bought it, they say the same thing.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 20, 2012, 02:25:37 pm
5/8?  That's not metric!!! ARRRGH!  LOL

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 20, 2012, 03:17:03 pm
Received my UPS gift this morning (exactly 1 week from CA). Hope to get them mounted up later, but summer decided to move in with 95 degree temps and extreme humidity. VA summers suck!

Tell me about it.  One day it was 70, low humidity and beautiful.  Suddenly I feel like I am in a pressure cooker again.  As a native Virginian, I guess I am not allowed to complain, though.  But geeze....

Oh how I wish my bar order were shipped!

5/8?  That's not metric!!! ARRRGH!  LOL

Really?  There shouldn't be anything on the bike non-metric...  that wold be extremely annoying.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on June 20, 2012, 05:25:06 pm
Finally home. I see someone beat me to the pictures.  :)

Yes I suppose you could get a ratchet on it but (after going to the garage and trying it) I would still go with a ratchet wrench in order to protect the fairing pieces. With a ratchet and socket on it it wants to push into the fairing and or the cage pretty hard. BTW I used a 16mm to tighten it so I felt better about the install. LOL
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 20, 2012, 05:36:11 pm
16mm...5/8 are very close to the same size. My socket set goes from 15 to 17 and I do not have metric gear wrenches yet. Guess what i am buying?

Apologize for the confusion.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Cuda on June 21, 2012, 03:26:31 pm
You ordered chrome, correct? The chroming process takes quite a bit longer than powder coating due to the "triple dip" process so that's the reason for the delay in shipping the chrome sets out. We're picking up both today though so hopefully we'll have most of the black sets from batch two and all the chrome sets sent out by the end of this week!

/quote]

Don't worry about Max Ryan ... If he could not whine about something he would not be happy ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 21, 2012, 03:56:22 pm
Don't worry about Max Ryan ... If he could not whine about something he would not be happy ;)

Life is difficult...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: accbiker on June 21, 2012, 08:38:30 pm
Out of curiosity, has anyone installed their cages with Ronnie's Pegs yet.  I did a quick dry fit tonight and the pegs seem to just clear the bars, but I couldn't be sure.

-David
Athens, GA
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 21, 2012, 09:17:01 pm
Out of curiosity, has anyone installed their cages with Ronnie's Pegs yet.  I did a quick dry fit tonight and the pegs seem to just clear the bars, but I couldn't be sure.

I was told by Ryan they would, after supplying photos and measurements.  I will be one very unhappy camper if they don't!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: alexx45 on June 22, 2012, 09:19:02 am
I was told by Ryan they would, after supplying photos and measurements.  I will be one very unhappy camper if they don't!!

I sure hope it's the same for the Gen 1 Canyon cage. Other wise like you & will be seriously disappointed.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 22, 2012, 12:38:50 pm
We couldn't get our hands on a set of Ronnie's highway pegs in time when we were building the bars so unfortunately we couldn't test their compatibility first hand. However, like maxtog said, we took some rough measurements based on photos and it seems like they'd have no problem working together. As of now we're not 100% sure, though.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on June 22, 2012, 06:50:42 pm
Ryan, thanks! Powder coaster let me know the bars arrived today and will be coated and ready for install late this week. We'll post photos of the finished product.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: accbiker on June 22, 2012, 07:44:48 pm
Out of curiosity, has anyone installed their cages with Ronnie's Pegs yet.  I did a quick dry fit tonight and the pegs seem to just clear the bars, but I couldn't be sure.

-David
Athens, GA

I put my set on tonight after work and there is plenty of clearance.  Here are a few picts (please excuse the dirty bike and scraps on the lower panel).

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 22, 2012, 08:53:07 pm
Ryan, thanks! Powder coaster let me know the bars arrived today and will be coated and ready for install late this week. We'll post photos of the finished product.

Awesome! I can't wait to see the finished product!

I put my set on tonight after work and there is plenty of clearance.  Here are a few picts (please excuse the dirty bike and scraps on the lower panel).

Thanks for the pics! I'll be sure to save these as proof that the Canyon Cages will work with Ronnies Pegs.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 23, 2012, 08:38:37 am
Ryan, I sent an email and then several additional emails with photos of my 2009 with the Ronnies Pegs.  It looks as if the lower bar drops down farther as it directs to the rear mounting position.  Could you check out my photos and see if they help with the Gen 1 fitment.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 23, 2012, 09:22:32 am
Ryan, I sent an email and then several additional emails with photos of my 2009 with the Ronnies Pegs.  It looks as if the lower bar drops down farther as it directs to the rear mounting position.  Could you check out my photos and see if they help with the Gen 1 fitment.  Thanks.

I saw your other posting.  To me, it looks like Ronnie's pegs are not going to be compatible with the gen 1 canyons.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 23, 2012, 04:51:52 pm
Ryan, I sent an email and then several additional emails with photos of my 2009 with the Ronnies Pegs.  It looks as if the lower bar drops down farther as it directs to the rear mounting position.  Could you check out my photos and see if they help with the Gen 1 fitment.  Thanks.

I'll be sure to check out the photos when I get back in the office on Monday morning. As is, it appears as though they're not going to work together but there may be some sort of small change we can make to either the Canyon Cage or the pegs themselves. I'll look into this on Monday when I have a chance to check out the photos. Also, I went into this in another thread as well, but maybe we can set up a "guinea pig" arrangement for you to test both products because you already have the pegs. We can speak more on Monday when I have a chance to see the photos and I respond to your email. Thanks for all the photos though!

I saw your other posting.  To me, it looks like Ronnie's pegs are not going to be compatible with the gen 1 canyons.

Yea, I totally agree. However, they may work with some small modifications!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 23, 2012, 07:29:21 pm
I'll be sure to check out the photos when I get back in the office on Monday morning. As is, it appears as though they're not going to work together but there may be some sort of small change we can make to either the Canyon Cage or the pegs themselves. I'll look into this on Monday when I have a chance to check out the photos. Also, I went into this in another thread as well, but maybe we can set up a "guinea pig" arrangement for you to test both products because you already have the pegs. We can speak more on Monday when I have a chance to see the photos and I respond to your email.

You are so reasonable it is insane :)

I can certainly understand 556Alpha's concern- since Ronnie's Pegs are extremely nice and pretty dern expensive.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 24, 2012, 10:33:17 am
You are so reasonable it is insane :)

I can certainly understand 556Alpha's concern- since Ronnie's Pegs are extremely nice and pretty dern expensive.

Hahahahaha why thank you, maxtog! I'm just trying to be as fair as I can be! Besides, it'd be worth it to find out for sure whether or not they'll work together because a lot of people out there have Ronnies Pegs. I'm just hoping there's a small, easy modification we can make so they'll work together.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 24, 2012, 10:44:07 am
Ryan,

I sent ya a PM but figured someone else may want to know as well so they could be the tester.  I decided to sell the Ronnie's Pegs, they are great out of the box and I didn't see a way to modify them.  I also looked at the photos of the bike laid over and the initial touching points are down low (where they would interfere with the pegs).  Obviously I would want the max protection and modifying the bars by raising the lowest point would cause the bike to lay over more and come to a rest later causing possible damage.  Long story short I will attach a set of pegs to the Canyon Cages.  Not my favorite option but probably the most functional.  Maybe someone else will decide they want to find a way to make these work together.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 25, 2012, 08:42:04 am
Ryan,

I sent ya a PM but figured someone else may want to know as well so they could be the tester.  I decided to sell the Ronnie's Pegs, they are great out of the box and I didn't see a way to modify them.  I also looked at the photos of the bike laid over and the initial touching points are down low (where they would interfere with the pegs).  Obviously I would want the max protection and modifying the bars by raising the lowest point would cause the bike to lay over more and come to a rest later causing possible damage.  Long story short I will attach a set of pegs to the Canyon Cages.  Not my favorite option but probably the most functional.  Maybe someone else will decide they want to find a way to make these work together.

Alrighty, that sounds good to me. I'm sorry you had to go through all of that because they wouldn't work together but I hope you're happy with your final set up! Thanks again!

EDIT: I want to see more pictures of the Canyon Cages and Saddle Bag Guards mounted on some bikes! C'mon guys!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 25, 2012, 09:22:24 am
Can't ride with out the bags anymore.  :doublepuke:

Oh well, glad I have them   :D

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Corbin2.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Texas Concours14 on June 25, 2012, 12:11:22 pm
I would like to show photos of the mounted cages but I can't loosen the 10 mm socket flange head bolts on either side of the engine (steps 4 and 10).  Liquid wrench penetrating oil hasn't helped.  I am either going to apply max torque to the socket wrench and risk stripping the sockets, or go to the local dealer and pay them $100/hour rate to loosen the bolts (and fix any stripped bolts that they cause).  Anyone else encounter this problem?  Any solutions other than brute force?

The side bags went on relatively easily, after drilling out the holes on the passenger foot pegs just a bit so that the 6 mm screws would pass through.

Good workmanship on this product!

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 25, 2012, 01:03:15 pm
Anyone else encounter this problem?  Any solutions other than brute force?
I  had to use a breaker bar.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 25, 2012, 01:08:40 pm
I would like to show photos of the mounted cages but I can't loosen the 10 mm socket flange head bolts on either side of the engine (steps 4 and 10).  Liquid wrench penetrating oil hasn't helped.  I am either going to apply max torque to the socket wrench and risk stripping the sockets, or go to the local dealer and pay them $100/hour rate to loosen the bolts (and fix any stripped bolts that they cause).  Anyone else encounter this problem?  Any solutions other than brute force?

The side bags went on relatively easily, after drilling out the holes on the passenger foot pegs just a bit so that the 6 mm screws would pass through.

Good workmanship on this product!

I just spoke with my technician about this and he's saying just put a bit more muscle into it! You should be able to break those loose without stripping the sockets if you use an extension or breaker bar on your wrench. Keep up updated and let me know how it goes!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Texas Concours14 on June 25, 2012, 02:05:57 pm
Gumbi and Ryan, many thanks for the suggestion.  Bought a breaker bar and it worked like a charm.  Red threadlocker on screw. Torque is a wonderful thing, as is the helpful advice on this forum.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 25, 2012, 02:32:09 pm
Gumbi and Ryan, many thanks for the suggestion.  Bought a breaker bar and it worked like a charm.  Red threadlocker on screw. Torque is a wonderful thing, as is the helpful advice on this forum.  Thanks again.

Awesome! I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out! Kind of a bummer that you had to go out and buy a breaker bar, though. I probably would have tried to use a metal vacuum tube or something hahahahaha. Either way, glad to hear you got it figured out.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 25, 2012, 03:15:18 pm
Every time I've bought a tool I just think, "The next job will be cheaper."  LOL  That's what I keep telling myself.....
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 25, 2012, 06:41:37 pm
One can never have to many tools. I almost went broke when I was wrenching on RV's, the Snap-On truck can be evil.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 08:20:41 am
Cages with added highway pegs. Talk about total comfort!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 08:22:26 am
More Pics
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: leyenda30 on June 26, 2012, 08:30:11 am
Looking good...nice pegs.   JP
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on June 26, 2012, 08:33:12 am
Cages with added highway pegs. Talk about total comfort!

The bars look great but what happened to the right side of your bike man? That's some serious rash you got there. Too bad your bars didn't come a lil sooner eh?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 08:56:25 am
More Pics

Wow, those really look great! Do you think we could get some photos from a bit farther away that shows the whole bike in the photo? It's a bit easier to get an idea of how the bars look when the entire bike is in the picture. I appreciate the close up shots too but do you think you could snap some from a bit farther away as well?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 26, 2012, 08:58:14 am
More Pics
Where did you buy those pegs?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 09:25:41 am
Where did you buy those pegs?


The clamps and pegs both look like RivCo's.

http://www.rivcoproducts.com/products/product.php?productid=352&cat=0&page=1 (http://www.rivcoproducts.com/products/product.php?productid=352&cat=0&page=1)
http://www.rivcoproducts.com/products/product.php?productid=282&cat=0&page=1 (http://www.rivcoproducts.com/products/product.php?productid=282&cat=0&page=1)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 09:37:10 am
The bars look great but what happened to the right side of your bike man? That's some serious rash you got there. Too bad your bars didn't come a lil sooner eh?

I laid the bike down a couple months back. Nothing serious. Went into a turn at about 15mph and hit some loose gravel. It was at nite and didn't see the gravel in the road. My ankle finally healed though, so I'm back up and running. I can live with the scratched plastic.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 09:39:50 am
Wow, those really look great! Do you think we could get some photos from a bit farther away that shows the whole bike in the photo? It's a bit easier to get an idea of how the bars look when the entire bike is in the picture. I appreciate the close up shots too but do you think you could snap some from a bit farther away as well?

Ryan,
  Will get those pics ASAP. Thanks for the great product Bro! You should be receiving the ones you accidentally sent me some time today.
Oh and yes, Those are the pegs from rivco. Great fit!

Mark
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: C14_Rider on June 26, 2012, 09:41:49 am
Can't tell from the pics... that low peg mounting doesn't compromise your maximum lean angle?  You wouldn't want those hitting pavement first in a serious turn, could induce a low-side.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 09:47:54 am
Ryan,
  Will get those pics ASAP. Thanks for the great product Bro! You should be receiving the ones you accidentally sent me some time today.
Oh and yes, Those are the pegs from rivco. Great fit!

Mark

Thank you very much!

Can't tell from the pics... that low peg mounting doesn't compromise your maximum lean angle?  You wouldn't want those hitting pavement first in a serious turn, could induce a low-side.

It looks like it'd be close but it shouldn't compromise the maximum lean angle because the hero peg should still be the first thing to touch the ground even with the highway pegs in that position. As long as you use the hero peg as a warning system and don't go over much further once the hero is scraping, you should be fine. I don't think this has been tested though and I'd really like to know for sure as well.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 09:55:11 am
More pics
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 26, 2012, 09:56:28 am
And last 2
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on June 26, 2012, 10:01:06 am
kawacop, did you have any trouble with the front engine mount bolts and the alignment of the engine mount bracket and hole into the engine?  Mine is slightly off causing the misalignment and binding of the bolts on the bracket hole.

How about you Ryan, did you all experience any issues with this when developing the bars?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 10:07:43 am
More pics

Great! This is precisely what I was looking for!

kawacop, did you have any trouble with the front engine mount bolts and the alignment of the engine mount bracket and hole into the engine?  Mine is slightly off causing the misalignment and binding of the bolts on the bracket hole.

How about you Ryan, did you all experience any issues with this when developing the bars?

This may be a dumb question but were you sure to follow the instructions step by step? I know there's a very specific way to align and install those guards especially at that front engine mount point. Anyway, I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue and I don't remember personally experiencing this when we repeatedly put on/took off the guards. I have heard of a few people having a tough time breaking those engine mount bolts loose but nothing regarding misalignment. If you could perhaps snap a photo of the issue or misalignment, I can show our tech and attempt to get you some solid answers.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on June 26, 2012, 10:22:39 am
Yep, followed the directions. Step 4 you remove the right front engine mount bolt. Step 8 you install the new one. This was very tight, and took a breaker bar to release, but was very tight to unscrew the entire way. Once off, i tried to just screw in the new bolt you all supplied and it would not go in. looks like the engine mount bracket hole and the hole in the engine do not line up. Engine is raised a bit.  I'll see if I can get to it tonight and try to get a pic, but it's rather hard to see in there. 
I'm going to do the engine mount process of loosening and then re-tourqueing the engine mount bolts to see if I can get them to align.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: C14_Rider on June 26, 2012, 10:31:07 am
It looks like it'd be close but it shouldn't compromise the maximum lean angle because the hero peg should still be the first thing to touch the ground even with the highway pegs in that position. As long as you use the hero peg as a warning system and don't go over much further once the hero is scraping, you should be fine. I don't think this has been tested though and I'd really like to know for sure as well.
um, ok.  But remember that you don't always have a choice in the matter, if you are into a turn that's tighter than you expected, sometimes you just have to crank it over hard to avoid going wide and possibly into oncoming traffic.  And the C14 will crank over to a crazy angle if forced to for survival.  Wouldn't want to have to back off if the hero pegs hit if that will put me into a car...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 10:56:16 am
Yep, followed the directions. Step 4 you remove the right front engine mount bolt. Step 8 you install the new one. This was very tight, and took a breaker bar to release, but was very tight to unscrew the entire way. Once off, i tried to just screw in the new bolt you all supplied and it would not go in. looks like the engine mount bracket hole and the hole in the engine do not line up. Engine is raised a bit.  I'll see if I can get to it tonight and try to get a pic, but it's rather hard to see in there. 
I'm going to do the engine mount process of loosening and then re-tourqueing the engine mount bolts to see if I can get them to align.

Alrighty. Let me know if you end up getting it to align for you. I'll also speak with the tech and see if I can find out more information on this for you.

um, ok.  But remember that you don't always have a choice in the matter, if you are into a turn that's tighter than you expected, sometimes you just have to crank it over hard to avoid going wide and possibly into oncoming traffic.  And the C14 will crank over to a crazy angle if forced to for survival.  Wouldn't want to have to back off if the hero pegs hit if that will put me into a car...

I completely agree. To be honest with you, I've been against (and still am) putting highway pegs on this type of bike from the start but it's something more than a few people inquired about. So, if you're going to add highway pegs, just be aware that they may effect the bike in a way you didn't intend. I guess it really just depends on what type of riding you do most. If you're someone like me who's a canyon junkie where lean angle is everything, you should probably realize the pegs are going to stick out, skip them, and use the Canyon Cage as it was designed to be used; by itself. However, if you do more open riding where you rarely encounter multiple series' of tight curves and actually have a chance to stay in one gear long enough to put your feet up then the highway pegs may be something you want to look into. I guess it just comes down to the rider knowing their preferences and riding environments and adding accessories accordingly.

EDIT: I also forgot to mention, the highway pegs are relatively simple to take on and off and only take a few minutes to install. One could always leave the pegs off the bike for short rides or rides through the canyons and only put them on when they're going on a really long ride where they'll actually use them.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on June 26, 2012, 11:02:25 am
I completely agree. To be honest with you, I've been against (and still am) putting highway pegs on this type of bike from the start but it's something more than a few people inquired about. So, if you're going to add highway pegs, just be aware that they may effect the bike in a way you didn't intend. I guess it really just depends on what type of riding you do most. If you're someone like me who's a canyon junkie where lean angle is everything, you should probably realize the pegs are going to stick out, skip them, and use the Canyon Cage as it was designed to be used; by itself. However, if you do more open riding where you rarely encounter multiple series' of tight curves and actually have a chance to stay in one gear long enough to put your feet up then the highway pegs may be something you want to look into. I guess it just comes down to the rider knowing their preferences and riding environments and adding accessories accordingly.

Agreed 100%.  I plan on installing highway pegs for long trips on the slab and they will be taken off once I get to my destination when the corner carving commences.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 26, 2012, 12:06:20 pm
Dalroo and I are working on when we're going to swing out to our powdercoater to pick the bars up, but they're coated....

(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/cage/painted.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 26, 2012, 12:18:22 pm
Agreed 100%.  I plan on installing highway pegs for long trips on the slab and they will be taken off once I get to my destination when the corner carving commences.

I'm going to experiment with mounting them in a way that when they are folded up, they are not sticking out past the cage. Not sure if/how that can be done, but I will try.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 26, 2012, 01:22:09 pm
Dalroo and I are working on when we're going to swing out to our powdercoater to pick the bars up, but they're coated....

Oh wow, those look gorgeous! I can't wait to see how they look on the bike!  ;D

I'm going to experiment with mounting them in a way that when they are folded up, they are not sticking out past the cage. Not sure if/how that can be done, but I will try.

I'm not so sure there's a way to make the pegs stick out less than the cage itself when the pegs are folded up/in but don't let me stop you from trying! However, that's not to say that you can't find a position where they won't restrict lean angle whatsoever because I have a feeling that's possible. The best thing to do would be to lay down a thick blanket and gently lay the bike over on its side and let it rest on the Canyon Cage. Once it's on its side you can check out what portions of the Canyon Cage are high enough off the ground to allow for safe mounting of the highway pegs. I wish we had time to do this when we had the bike in our shop and we were working on it but hindsight is always 20/20, I suppose.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 26, 2012, 03:39:04 pm
These could be mounted at the fwd most vertical bar, down at the bottom and folded in if I am thinking correctly.  Or even the rear vertical bar:

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-66049453130018_2212_24495714)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 26, 2012, 06:25:55 pm
Cages with added highway pegs. Talk about total comfort!

Argh!!!!!   Looks like you needed the canyons BEFORE you got the canyons :)

Actually, the pegs don't look that bad folded up... although I love my Ronnie's Pegs.

(Eeeew, people... please resize/scale down your pics before posting!  Slow!! ;)  )
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 26, 2012, 06:27:51 pm
Agreed 100%.  I plan on installing highway pegs for long trips on the slab and they will be taken off once I get to my destination when the corner carving commences.

I think with foldable ones, like shown, it shouldn't be that much of a scraping situation... would it?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on June 26, 2012, 06:31:31 pm
It would seem to me if you are scrapping a folded peg mounted to a Canyon Cage you are about to test the effectiveness of the cage anyway.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on June 27, 2012, 05:16:21 am
It depends on where they are mounted. You would be shocked at how far the Concours will lay over and be okay. I have my peg feelers all but ground off and my buddy said my bags are only a few inches off the ground at that point. I fully intend to put pegs on my bars but they will be mounted either high enough to stay off the deck or in such a way that they fold into the bar opening in the cage when not it use.
I'm thinking if I mount the peg to the vertical bar then it should fold into the opening but i don't have them in my hand yet so I can only postulate.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 27, 2012, 08:09:56 am
I think with foldable ones, like shown, it shouldn't be that much of a scraping situation... would it?

Like others have said, I'm sure it all depends on where they're mounted. I'm sure they could be mounted in a place where they would scrape eventually. However, on the flip side of the coin, I'm sure they could also be mounted in a spot where they'd be safe from scraping altogether. Placement is everything! Hopefully once more people get the cage mounted and highway pegs installed, we'll be able to find a safe location to mount 'em.

It would seem to me if you are scrapping a folded peg mounted to a Canyon Cage you are about to test the effectiveness of the cage anyway.

Sounds about right to me!

It depends on where they are mounted. You would be shocked at how far the Concours will lay over and be okay. I have my peg feelers all but ground off and my buddy said my bags are only a few inches off the ground at that point. I fully intend to put pegs on my bars but they will be mounted either high enough to stay off the deck or in such a way that they fold into the bar opening in the cage when not it use.
I'm thinking if I mount the peg to the vertical bar then it should fold into the opening but i don't have them in my hand yet so I can only postulate.

I was also thinking that the vertical bar would also be a good place to mount the pegs so they can fold into that rectangular opening. My only concern with mounting the pegs there would be comfort. When I was sitting on the bike testing out highway pegs mounted to the Canyon Cage I was a bit restricted with where to mount the pegs due to my relatively short legs. To comfortably use the highway pegs mounted to the vertical bar I'm afraid you'd have to be 6'3"+ but I could definitely be mistaken. Once you guys receive your bars and pegs/clamps, you'll just have to do some testing to find a safe spot to mount the pegs in a position that's safe yet still comfortable. After all, if they're not comfortable, what's the point in having them at all?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 27, 2012, 09:44:02 am
I mounted the pegs to fit my personal comfort. I'm 6' with a 32" inseam. So I had to mount them as far forward and as low as I could to get my legs stretched. I tried the vertical bar, but my knees were up to high for that particular position.
 I did a test run with them and had no problem with ground clearance when making sharp turns. However, I should note that I am not a high speed track rider nor do I hardly ever lean heavily into turns at high speeds. I'm more of a cruiser style rider.
 Everyone who wants to mount highway pegs will have to figure out their own comfort level. Like someone else noted; you can always remove them during track days or similar type riding.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 27, 2012, 09:59:37 am
I mounted the pegs to fit my personal comfort. I'm 6' with a 32" inseam. So I had to mount them as far forward and as low as I could to get my legs stretched. I tried the vertical bar, but my knees were up to high for that particular position.
 I did a test run with them and had no problem with ground clearance when making sharp turns. However, I should note that I am not a high speed track rider nor do I hardly ever lean heavily into turns at high speeds. I'm more of a cruiser style rider.
 Everyone who wants to mount highway pegs will have to figure out their own comfort level. Like someone else noted; you can always remove them during track days or similar type riding.

Great! I'm glad to hear you got them mounted in a comfortable position that's also safe based on your riding tendencies. Oh and thank you for the pictures, by the way!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 27, 2012, 07:32:17 pm
Got my CC today, spent a couple hours installing. Here are a few pics:
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/dan88z/7256b4ee.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/dan88z/bd52b0aa.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/dan88z/3362d5d2.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/dan88z/eb7691af.jpg)

I did have some frustration with the install. The rears went on easy. The fronts, it basically came down to proper tools (or lack thereof). Getting the 8mm bolt attached inside the fairing was not easy. Of course, the allen head socket set I have had a 6 and 10mm but no 8. So I was using an 8mm allen wrench, which fortunately, by using the old long engine bolt, made a good breaker bar to get the old bolts off, and to get some torque going on the new ones. The right front side went on pretty easy, but the left was real tight. I finally went out to the auto parts store and bought an 8mm socket that I needed, and even with that, the bolt was extremely tight. I ended up putting a 2' piece of pipe onto the end of the socket wrench to get some power behind it. Once I did that, it took only a few minutes. The next part that was frustrating was getting the 5/8" nut tighted on the brace. The left side I was able to get a shallow socket on, with a small socket wrench all the way inside the fairing. The right side, due to the radiator hose, I couldn't get the socket in there. So, it was an open ended wrench, one fraction of a turn at a time. I recently bought an open end ratchet, but the 17mm was slightly too big, so after some experimentation, I found out that it was an SAE nut. If I pulled on the 17mm as I tightened, I was able to get it cranked down some, but when it got tight, had to switch to the open end wrench.

Overall they are a real nice product. I'm looking at options now- maybe some led lights on the front of the bars for more visibility, white strips, or maybe some small spot lights. Seeing where highway pegs might work. I might end up springing for some of the Kuryakyn offset mounts that you can adjust to just about any position you want, that way they could be mounted up on one of the higher points, but still be positioned where they are comfortable.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 28, 2012, 10:47:30 am
I did have some frustration with the install. The rears went on easy. The fronts, it basically came down to proper tools (or lack thereof). Getting the 8mm bolt attached inside the fairing was not easy. Of course, the allen head socket set I have had a 6 and 10mm but no 8. So I was using an 8mm allen wrench, which fortunately, by using the old long engine bolt, made a good breaker bar to get the old bolts off, and to get some torque going on the new ones. The right front side went on pretty easy, but the left was real tight. I finally went out to the auto parts store and bought an 8mm socket that I needed, and even with that, the bolt was extremely tight. I ended up putting a 2' piece of pipe onto the end of the socket wrench to get some power behind it. Once I did that, it took only a few minutes. The next part that was frustrating was getting the 5/8" nut tighted on the brace. The left side I was able to get a shallow socket on, with a small socket wrench all the way inside the fairing. The right side, due to the radiator hose, I couldn't get the socket in there. So, it was an open ended wrench, one fraction of a turn at a time. I recently bought an open end ratchet, but the 17mm was slightly too big, so after some experimentation, I found out that it was an SAE nut. If I pulled on the 17mm as I tightened, I was able to get it cranked down some, but when it got tight, had to switch to the open end wrench.

Overall they are a real nice product. I'm looking at options now- maybe some led lights on the front of the bars for more visibility, white strips, or maybe some small spot lights. Seeing where highway pegs might work. I might end up springing for some of the Kuryakyn offset mounts that you can adjust to just about any position you want, that way they could be mounted up on one of the higher points, but still be positioned where they are comfortable.

I'm glad to hear you got them on and like them but I'm sorry you had a bit of trouble getting them installed. It's not so much that it's a difficult install, just tedious. Some steps have to be taken very slowly because of the tight fit, unfortunately. Thanks for the photos and I can't wait to see how it all looks with the Kuryakyn pegs you're talking about! I don't think I've seen those pegs before...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 28, 2012, 11:14:01 am
You are exactly right Ryan, more tedious than difficult. Working in tight spaces and taking a long time to tighten things because there isn't much room to manuver. Having that 8mm Allen head socket would have made things a lot easier, I should have gone out before I started and bought it.

I'm certainly not looking forward to removing them for service. I have a prepaid maintenance plan and while they cover scheduled service @ 100%, they will charge to remove aftermarket parts. My next service will be a valve adjust that needs the fairings off- but I think I'll pay the fee and let them take the bars off. I'm so worried about stripping or breaking off one of those bolts in the engine.  I suppose the other option is to cut the fins to allow them to fit around the cage, that could probably be done near the rear of the fin where it hides behind the solid part of the fairing.

My wife has the offset pegs on her Vulcan. They let you swivel in about a 6" diameter range and will lock in any position. I saw they have a black set which will be perfect. I don't think I'll do that til after I get back from my 2 week ride, towards the end of July.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on June 28, 2012, 11:31:59 am
...
I suppose the other option is to cut the fins to allow them to fit around the cage, that could probably be done near the rear of the fin where it hides behind the solid part of the fairing.
...

I had a hiccup in my install, so I will try this mod along with a slight alteration of the tabs at the bottom of that panel. I "think" they will allow removal of the plastics without pulling the cages off (barely). I'll take some pics of my panel mods, just in case it works, so I can share what I am doing.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on June 28, 2012, 11:33:09 am
Dalroo and I are working on when we're going to swing out to our powdercoater to pick the bars up, but they're coated....

([url]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/cage/painted.jpg[/url])


Hmmm...I see you guys decided not to go with the two tone on the front bars. Looking forward to the installed pics.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 28, 2012, 11:43:02 am
I suppose the other option is to cut the fins to allow them to fit around the cage, that could probably be done near the rear of the fin where it hides behind the solid part of the fairing.

Yea, from what I've heard you can cut those fins in a manner that they're hidden behind the solid part of the fairing when installed. I know people have done this mod with our bathroom bars but I haven't heard of anyone doing it with the Canyon Cage yet so I can't be sure that it'll work the same way.

I had a hiccup in my install, so I will try this mod along with a slight alteration of the tabs at the bottom of that panel. I "think" they will allow removal of the plastics without pulling the cages off (barely). I'll take some pics of my panel mods, just in case it works, so I can share what I am doing.

Oooh, please let us know how it goes! I'm sure others would also like to do this if it'll work the same way as it does with our law enforcement bars!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 28, 2012, 12:24:59 pm
Hmmm...I see you guys decided not to go with the two tone on the front bars. Looking forward to the installed pics.

Correct...the only way for that to work would have been to go, install, mark, remove, paint, come back, install....  I don't mind that there will be a little blue below the matte line, personally.

Chip is picking them up tomorrow and we're having an install party on Saturday. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 28, 2012, 12:34:41 pm
Correct...the only way for that to work would have been to go, install, mark, remove, paint, come back, install....  I don't mind that there will be a little blue below the matte line, personally.

Chip is picking them up tomorrow and we're having an install party on Saturday.

Yea, it would have been a serious pain to do the two tone and I honestly think it'll look better as you guys have it currently. I can't wait to see the photos of the bars installed!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on June 28, 2012, 03:34:19 pm
Correct...the only way for that to work would have been to go, install, mark, remove, paint, come back, install....  I don't mind that there will be a little blue below the matte line, personally.

Chip is picking them up tomorrow and we're having an install party on Saturday.

That makes sense. If you have second thoughts you could just mask it off, protect the fairing and spray
paint the lower sections flat black. If the paint chipped a little it wouldn't get noticed since the blue underneath
is so dark.
Quote from: DFW Sat. forecast
SATURDAY: Sunny skies, hot and humid. Winds: S 10-15 . High: 98 (Heat Index 101).
I recommend a couple of electric fans for the install party, drink beverages, have fun and take pictures.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on June 28, 2012, 04:01:22 pm
A-holes at UPS show my delivery completed, except i don't have them! Mis delivered. Ryan initiated a claim. UPS, YOU SUCK!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on June 28, 2012, 04:02:52 pm
Quote from: Kawacop1642
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kawacop', I noticed that you didn't get the MCE saddlebag protectors, do you think your hitch install would interfere with them?

warning  :offtopic: coming

That rear fend'r 'xtender looks good with your hitch.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on June 28, 2012, 04:06:03 pm
A-holes at UPS show my delivery completed, except i don't have them! Mis delivered. Ryan initiated a claim. UPS, YOU SUCK!

Is that your box on my front porch?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 28, 2012, 04:59:22 pm
That makes sense. If you have second thoughts you could just mask it off, protect the fairing and spray
paint the lower sections flat black. If the paint chipped a little it wouldn't get noticed since the blue underneath
is so dark. I recommend a couple of electric fans for the install party, drink beverages, have fun and take pictures.

I will have to insist that beverages be a part of this adventure.  LOL  I would worry if I put spray paint over high quality powder coat that the powder coater would come to my house and kick my ass....  :D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 28, 2012, 05:15:50 pm
I wish I could afford those Heli's.  Your bike is calling for the open road.

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 28, 2012, 09:54:13 pm
A-holes at UPS show my delivery completed, except i don't have them! Mis delivered. Ryan initiated a claim. UPS, YOU SUCK!

Yesterday when I checked the tracker it had that awesome "out for delivery" status. I had to ride up north to a work meeting. My wife said they didn't come when she was here for lunch. I got home around 2:30, and waited. And waited. And waited. Finally around 4:30 I checked the tracker again- "Delivered- left at side door". They had been sitting there for 3 hours. When I came home on the bike I looked at the front porch as I pulled in, but then had to negotiate getting around my van and then between my wife's bike and my son's scooter, so that was where my attentino was. Never looked at the other door, where the box was sitting.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: martin_14 on June 29, 2012, 02:26:46 am
Yesterday when I checked the tracker it had that awesome "out for delivery" status. I had to ride up north to a work meeting. My wife said they didn't come when she was here for lunch. I got home around 2:30, and waited. And waited. And waited. Finally around 4:30 I checked the tracker again- "Delivered- left at side door". They had been sitting there for 3 hours. When I came home on the bike I looked at the front porch as I pulled in, but then had to negotiate getting around my van and then between my wife's bike and my son's scooter, so that was where my attentino was. Never looked at the other door, where the box was sitting.

^^^^^^ :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 29, 2012, 06:11:01 am
Quote from: Kawacop1642
([url]http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/photos/i-vqGGmV5/0/L/i-vqGGmV5-L.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/photos/i-vqGGmV5/0/X3/i-vqGGmV5-X3.jpg[/url])

kawacop', I noticed that you didn't get the MCE saddlebag protectors, do you think your hitch install would interfere with them?

warning  :offtopic: coming

That rear fend'r 'xtender looks good with your hitch.  :thumbs:

Actually, Ryan sent me the rears by mistake along with the fronts. I didn't order them so I returned them to him. They wouldn't interfere with the hitch though. Would probably have to install longer bolts though.
  That fender extender works great!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kawacop1642 on June 29, 2012, 06:19:15 am
I wish I could afford those Heli's.  Your bike is calling for the open road.
Those bars were well worth the price. With all the comfort mods I've made, this bike is now a "lounge chair missile". I do alot of long distance travels. My next trip is coming up. I'll be hitting the west coast (cali) from san diego up to Lake Tahoe. Then over through the midwest before heading back to texas via Utah (zion nat'l park) and the north rim of the Grand Canyon. Will be on the road for about a month.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Bugnut on June 29, 2012, 10:28:52 am
Those bars were well worth the price. With all the comfort mods I've made, this bike is now a "lounge chair missile".

I prefer "Couch Rocket". Lazy Boy ICBM also comes up.

Mike
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 29, 2012, 10:44:40 am
Yesterday when I checked the tracker it had that awesome "out for delivery" status. I had to ride up north to a work meeting. My wife said they didn't come when she was here for lunch. I got home around 2:30, and waited. And waited. And waited. Finally around 4:30 I checked the tracker again- "Delivered- left at side door". They had been sitting there for 3 hours. When I came home on the bike I looked at the front porch as I pulled in, but then had to negotiate getting around my van and then between my wife's bike and my son's scooter, so that was where my attentino was. Never looked at the other door, where the box was sitting.

I manage customer service for a large direct selling company.  I've had people on the phone screaming at me that their package wasn't delivered and told them, "Go open your front door."  LOL  Viola!  "Hey, how did you know it was there?" 

Uh...I used the UPS tracking number that we sent you in the email that I have confirmation that you opened.....   LOL


I just refer to my Connie as GunStar 1.  I'm thinking of putting a Death Blossom control panel on the right side.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on June 29, 2012, 04:38:18 pm
My shiny gen2 set arrived today!!!!!!  Now I have to convince my friend to help me install these suckers...

First I gotta get them to his house.... on the bike.   20lb box 20x12x12.  Strap to the top rack???  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on June 29, 2012, 06:30:09 pm
My shiny gen2 set arrived today!!!!!!  Now I have to convince my friend to help me install these suckers...

First I gotta get them to his house.... on the bike.   20lb box 20x12x12.  Strap to the top rack???  Hmmm.

Awesome! Glad to hear they arrived! Psh, just ride over there with the parcel tucked under your arm!  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on June 30, 2012, 10:35:56 am
Here's mine, kinda looks a lot like the others...  ;D And I agree wholeheartedly, they absolutely look a lot better in person on the bike. I dunno, they add some sort of contrast to the round lines of the bike. I sure do like the look of them.

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/tmbevtfd/cage-R.jpg)

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/tmbevtfd/cage-L.jpg)


Overall thoughts about the product:

- Excellent packaging, professionally done with a lot of care taken for safe transport.

Overall thoughts about the install:

- Easy!!! Well, with one exception; that being the super tight OE 10mm bolts. But a quick trip to my toolbox for my 1/2" pneumatic impact took care of that.
- To reinstall the new, longer bolt, I just used a hex socket with an extension to install these new 10mm bolts, so that was no problem either.
- The 5/8 (wrench size) Teflon lock nut some folks have been talking about inside the vents, that was a snap to get in. No problem at all. I already have three sets of ratchet wrenches, so once started, that went like cake.. and my hands are kinda big, but I'm used to wedging them into tight places and threading or removing fasteners.

- Clever, the design. I particularly like the design of the rear guards, using the passenger foot peg mount and the option to leave the foot pegs in place.

Overall thoughts about the product:

- Well designed, well made. Fit and finish, excellent. I did find a small blemish on the left front bar that looks like a bit of junk underneath the powder coat, but it's nothing terrible and frankly, who cares. The things are gonna inevitably get dinged up anyway.

- Extremely good value for the price

Constructive criticism:

Instructions:

- Provide hardware torque value recommendations in the instructions -- none currently appear.
- no recommendation for thread lock on any of the front guard hardware, but there is a mention of it on the rear. I used a dab of blue thread lock on the front stuff anyway, except for the Teflon nuts.

- Plastic cap -- I am assuming that plastic cap is for the right side opening where the new long bolt went through? It doesn't fit. I destroyed mine trying to get that in. I will hit the hardware store and find a better alternative. Lowes has a lot of rubber plugs like that, plastic ones too.

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on June 30, 2012, 01:42:25 pm
I'm having mail server problems and can't get to my photos yet, but the powder coated blue cages look awesome! Necron and I met for breakfast with a few other riders and then headed over to my garage to begin the install. Pretty straight forward instructions and really no hiccoughs at all. We did the two sets in about 2.5 hours, and spent a lot of time sitting, jawing, letting the bikes cool from the ride, etc. Big hint for those of you with fat hands, have a kid help. My 8 year old daughter was able to reach through the slats on the fairing and get these started for us - even though we ended up have to removing them for a sec and then Necron figured out how to get them started without the assistance of the kiddo.

+1 on the torque specs - one of our observers noted, he just goes back by feel based on how hard it was to loosen at first, but not sure how scientific that is, and +1 on thread lock. We used where it felt appropriate.

My observations:

1) I won't be riding without side cases ( i don't usually anyway) as the rear cage looks huge without case, but blend very well when bags are installed.

2) Sorry, and not to offend with my bias, but the color matched powder coating was the right choice. When I can post photos, unless Necron beats me to it, you might agree, this was a great option.

3) Texas garages are hot in the summer.

4) 8 year old daughters are pretty cool, and while we were tinkering in the garage, my 12 year old son was mowing the lawn, so sons are pretty cool as well.

5) The workmanship on these is fantastic, thanks Ryan and MCE team! And thanks Ayers Garage for coating!

6) Before starting, make sure you have a breakover bar, a lengthy extension, rubber mallet, and 5/8" gear wrench. Deep sockets were also handy.

7) Be patient. There is nothing hard about the project, just lots of steps with several being in tight spaces.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 30, 2012, 01:57:25 pm
I look forward to the color matched pics.  I debated this but the 09 Candy Red would be hard to match and it would contrast with the black lower cowl if it was coated red.  Still not 100% sure at this point but leaning twd leaving them black.   
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on June 30, 2012, 03:14:41 pm
2) Sorry, and not to offend with my bias, but the color matched powder coating was the right choice. When I can post photos, unless Necron beats me to it, you might agree, this was a great option.

I'd absolutely agree, based upon the black on black of mine. They look great and actually, I think contrasting color might jump out too much. These cages break up the "lines" of the bike just enough to make it look interesting.
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3) Texas garages are hot in the summer.
Um... they are in Florida too, trust me! lol
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5) The workmanship on these is fantastic, thanks Ryan and MCE team! And thanks Ayers Garage for coating!
Got that right!
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6) Before starting, make sure you have a breakover bar, a lengthy extension, rubber mallet, and 5/8" gear wrench. Deep sockets were also handy.
I'd add Blue (medium) thread locker, a tiny screwdriver or pick tool to pop out the circlip holding in the passenger footpeg pin (if you're installing rears too) and assorted hex sockets. Forget using a regular allen wrench kit on this job. Buy a set of 3/8" drive hex or allen sockets. I have both SAE and Metric sets.

Also, what I did was, I took one of the larger plastic bags that stuff came in and used that to store all my OE parts, the OE long rear motor bolt, the instructions, etc. and stuck it all in my tool box.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 30, 2012, 05:55:47 pm
Here's the color matched 10s!  Ryan, if you want higher res versions, feel free.   

http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/ (http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1752s.gif)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1755s.gif)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1756s.gif)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1757s.gif)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1758s.gif)
(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1759s.gif)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on June 30, 2012, 06:38:23 pm
Here's the color matched 10s!   

I like it color matched, looks awesome N99, nicely done bro!  8)   :thumbs: :thumbs:   :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on June 30, 2012, 06:39:27 pm
Yup, lack of proper tools is what made it frustrating for me. I'm no mechanic, but I've done a fair amount of bolt on type mods to my wifes cruiser, so the technical aspect of this install wasn't so bad. The 8mm Allen socket and 5/8 gear wrench were very much needed.

I did have success using an Allen wrench for a good part of the install. The old long engine bolt made a perfect breaker bar when placed on the end of the Allen.

Those blue bars you guys have look awesome. I've always loved blue bikes and would have really liked having that color.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on June 30, 2012, 06:52:08 pm

I like it color matched, looks awesome N99, nicely done bro!  8)   :thumbs: :thumbs:   :chugbeer:

Yup, same here. Looks factory that way! Nice job.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 30, 2012, 07:36:42 pm
Thanks guys.  Dalroo and I were really pleased with how they turned out. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 30, 2012, 07:49:42 pm
- Easy!!! Well, with one exception; that being the super tight OE 10mm bolts. But a quick trip to my toolbox for my 1/2" pneumatic impact took care of that.
- To reinstall the new, longer bolt, I just used a hex socket with an extension to install these new 10mm bolts, so that was no problem either.
- The 5/8 (wrench size) Teflon lock nut some folks have been talking about inside the vents, that was a snap to get in. No problem at all. I already have three sets of ratchet wrenches, so once started, that went like cake.. and my hands are kinda big, but I'm used to wedging them into tight places and threading or removing fasteners.
SHOWOFF   ;D

- Plastic cap -- I am assuming that plastic cap is for the right side opening where the new long bolt went through? It doesn't fit. I destroyed mine trying to get that in. I will hit the hardware store and find a better alternative. Lowes has a lot of rubber plugs like that, plastic ones too.
The plastic cap does actually fit. Couple taps with a small rubber mallet.  :P
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on June 30, 2012, 07:52:56 pm
Here's the color matched 10s!  Ryan, if you want higher res versions, feel free.   
([url]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/IMG_1759s.gif[/url])

That looks good. I bet they look better in person.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on June 30, 2012, 07:58:05 pm
In person they're matched so well you don't really even see them until you're on top of them.

I do bump the bar with my shin when I stop...but that's only day 1.  I'll get used to where they are.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on July 01, 2012, 07:33:44 am
Nice work guys! Lookin' good!  :thumbs:

Necron', I think there is only one thing you could have done better (assuming that yours is the de-badged bike)
Let Kevin take care of that oil fill cap for you.  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gooch on July 01, 2012, 01:37:14 pm
With the Gen 2 cages front/rear installed, are any of you feeling the need to also have slider protection for the front axle and rear swing arms?  If so, can you recommend options?

I'm on the cage waiting list for my new 2012 and have enjoyed reading about the installation process yall have described - Thanks for the feedback!!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on July 01, 2012, 01:53:41 pm
The plastic cap does actually fit. Couple taps with a small rubber mallet.  :P

Nope. Tried that. It wouldn't even start. When I tried tapping it with a plastic deadblow hammer (small version) the cap collapsed. POS part, but no worries. I'll find a suitable replacement.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 01, 2012, 02:43:32 pm
I started the cap to the first rib with slow steady pressure then tapped it in with the mallet.   Easy peasy Japaneesy. 

I like the annodized aluminium.  To each his own. :)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: wally_games on July 01, 2012, 02:52:11 pm
Thanks guys.  Dalroo and I were really pleased with how they turned out.

Both bikes look great. I almost bought a blue Connie, but ended up with a black '11. I need to hook up with one of you two guys to see what those bars look like in person.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 01, 2012, 03:13:29 pm
Sure dude!  Gordon tx... So you ride FM4 a bunch i suppose?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: wally_games on July 01, 2012, 03:25:20 pm
Sure dude!  Gordon tx... So you ride FM4 a bunch i suppose?

Yes, I ride it every so often. It's starting to get a little rough in spots, though. It's also the only place I've ever crashed :o. Did that just north of Santo on an FZ6 when I was first getting back into riding.

I work in Arlington, so I'm closer to your area a lot.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on July 01, 2012, 04:14:48 pm
With the Gen 2 cages front/rear installed, are any of you feeling the need to also have slider protection for the front axle and rear swing arms?  If so, can you recommend options?

 
These are nice IMO...
 
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7642.msg98456#msg98456 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7642.msg98456#msg98456)
 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 01, 2012, 04:32:43 pm
Awesome! Glad to hear they arrived! Psh, just ride over there with the parcel tucked under your arm!  ;D

With enough straps, it seems anything is possible:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 01, 2012, 05:15:59 pm
The Canyon Cages are now installed.  Below are pictures.  Here are my observations:

* The packaging used was excellent.  Double boxed, reinforced tape, paper padding, thick plastic bags.

* No parts were missing.  Instructions were pretty clear, although should be updated to supply recommended torques.

* The workmanship and finishes on the Canyons is the same as when I got the rears- excellent.

* The alignments and fit were absolutely perfect.  (Except the little plastic hole-filler thing, which didn't fit)

* They appear to be very strong and will do what was advertised as far as protecting the bike.

* We had no trouble removing the long rear engine mount bolt using an impact wrench.  The left side engine mount bolt was easy using hand tools.  The RIGHT engine mount bolt was a total pain and required tons of effort using a 1/2" breaker bar and was almost as hard re-inserting.  We think Kawasaki maybe used too much threadlock?  Or maybe the hole was not properly tapped?

* As others have already pointed out, the nut that holds the angle brace on both sides is extremely difficult to get to.  We did not have a speed/ratchet wrench of the correct size nor a socket wrench that would work.  So it took 20 min per nut, having to re-position a regular wrench every 1/24th of a turn.

* I think they look fine.  I would prefer a more dull silver than the bright chrome.  The chrome rears I already installed match better.  The fronts would probably have blended better in black; although there are enough other silver- bright and dull, on the bike to pull it together.  If I had it to do over, I might go all black.

* The Canyons do not overly interfere with Ronnie's highway pegs.  They make getting the pegs down harder than before, though.  When using the pegs, the bars hit the tops of my boots.  This isn't a problem for me (in fact, I kinda like it) but for someone with really big feet, it could pose an issue.

* I am not happy with the overall attachment design of the Canyons; the reason being that they are far more difficult and time consuming to install and remove than I had anticipated (even with better tools).  I especially dislike the forward-pointing bolt that supports the bottom/front mount.  When the Canyons are removed (like if you had to take it in for service), you can't ride the bike without first putting back all the original bolts.  I think it would have been far better if there were permanent brackets inside the fairings and the bars mount to those much more easily; of course this would trade ease of use for some strength.  I had pictured quickly removing three user-facing bolts per side, which is not the case.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 01, 2012, 09:04:56 pm
Curious how long the install took for you, Max.

You don't need to remove them for service.  You can cut 1 small non-structural piece pf plastic and leave them on.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 01, 2012, 10:16:28 pm
Curious how long the install took for you, Max.

My friend is a master mechanic.  I am a nobody and attempted to help some, but there was only one of any particular tool (we were at his house, not work).  The whole process took about 1.5 hours.  Most of it on that one engine bolt and the two insane nuts.  Of course, it was also freaking super-hot, and the bike was super-hot, and we were not exactly full of energy.

If we had to repeat it, knowing now exactly what to do, but still without a ratchet wrench, it would take maybe under an hour.  If we had a ratchet wrench, probably under 30 min.

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You don't need to remove them for service.  You can cut 1 small non-structural piece pf plastic and leave them on.

Are you positive about that?  (You did it/tested that?) If so, that might be an option- could you elaborate (with pics if possible) exactly what cut you mean?  Are you cutting the thinnest, forward attachment point of the second-to-top-most vent fin or something?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Texas Concours14 on July 01, 2012, 10:59:58 pm
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* I am not happy with the overall attachment design of the Canyons; the reason being that they are far more difficult and time consuming to install and remove than I had anticipated (even with better tools).  I especially dislike the forward-pointing bolt that supports the bottom/front mount.  When the Canyons are removed (like if you had to take it in for service), you can't ride the bike without first putting back all the original bolts.  I think it would have been far better if there were permanent brackets inside the fairings and the bars mount to those much more easily; of course this would trade ease of use for some strength.  I had pictured quickly removing three user-facing bolts per side, which is not the case.

I agree with Maxtog on this point.  As much as this is a nice piece of equipment, I was expecting it to be better engineered for a truly quick release mechanism.  This was a discussion topic on the original thread (the really long one).  I don't know whether it will be possible to easily remove the Canyon cages by cutting one of the fins on the fairing; I suspect this is the case because this will allow freer access to the forward-facing interior mounting bolts. But the idea all along was to be able to quickly remove the cages without resorting to surgery on the fairing.  As things are now, whenever one of the side cowlings needs to be removed, I will have spend about 30 minutes to remove those pesky interior mounting bolts (and another 30 minutes to re-install).

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 02, 2012, 04:49:13 am
I'm 99% positive that cutting that one little attachment piece will free the fairing without removing the bars.  Yes, Max, exactly the point you describe.  Some other forum user has done this with the bathroom bars, successfully and tested.  Should be exactly the same thing.  I'll see if I can find the thread.

I recall the discussion about quick release during the development, but my recollection was that it was discarded due to cost, strength, and complexity issues.

The instructions say that the engine bolts are 10mm.  They're 8mm.  At least on Dalroo and my 2010 models, they were 8mm.

I can't imagine how little fun the install would have been without a gear wrench, I concur fully.  But I didn't find ANYTHING difficult to get to, and I have pretty large hands.  I wear an XL glove.  The left side forward facing bracket nut was an interesting challenge until I approached it from the lowest opening.  Then it was easy.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 02, 2012, 05:50:19 am
Here is the thread where a guy with an 08 cut the fin for his bathroom bars.

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,30288.msg137261.html#msg137261 (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,30288.msg137261.html#msg137261)

You can see that the plastic is not really structurally necessary.  You would have to verify the correct slot before cutting.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 02, 2012, 01:00:46 pm
Constructive criticism:

Instructions:

- Provide hardware torque value recommendations in the instructions -- none currently appear.
- no recommendation for thread lock on any of the front guard hardware, but there is a mention of it on the rear. I used a dab of blue thread lock on the front stuff anyway, except for the Teflon nuts.

- Plastic cap -- I am assuming that plastic cap is for the right side opening where the new long bolt went through? It doesn't fit. I destroyed mine trying to get that in. I will hit the hardware store and find a better alternative. Lowes has a lot of rubber plugs like that, plastic ones too.

We're definitely going to update the installation instructions with torque value recommendations. I apologize that these weren't on the original batch of instructions but live and learn, I suppose. I'm glad you got the part installed with limited issues, though.

Regarding the thread lock, that's normally on all of our installation instructions but apparently we overlooked it when writing up this set. I'll also be sure to add a note to the instructions to use blue thread locker when installing the new bolts.

That's weird that your plastic plug didn't fit. We've sold over 75 of these sets now and I've only heard from two people that they had an issue with that plastic plug, everyone elses fit with no issue. I'm wondering if it's because material just happened to collect at that spot during the powder coating process which resulted in your plug not fitting. There's no other reason I can come up with that 2 out of 75+ wouldn't work.

2) Sorry, and not to offend with my bias, but the color matched powder coating was the right choice. When I can post photos, unless Necron beats me to it, you might agree, this was a great option.

6) Before starting, make sure you have a breakover bar, a lengthy extension, rubber mallet, and 5/8" gear wrench. Deep sockets were also handy.

The color matched bars definitely came out looking AWESOME! Also, we'll be adding the breaker bar, a socket extension, a rubber mallet, and a 5/8" gear wrench to the required tools section of the instructions.

I look forward to the color matched pics.  I debated this but the 09 Candy Red would be hard to match and it would contrast with the black lower cowl if it was coated red.  Still not 100% sure at this point but leaning twd leaving them black.

I really like the look of the black bars on the Candy Red Connie. If you'd like an idea of what they'd look like, you can check out our thread for the earlier generation Connie Group Buy stickied at the top of the Accessories section. The bike we used for the build was red and the finalized bars are black powder coat.

I started the cap to the first rib with slow steady pressure then tapped it in with the mallet.   Easy peasy Japaneesy. 

For some reason a couple people had an issue with that plastic cap not fitting. For the vast majority of others, it went in with no problems whatsoever. I'm wondering if it has something to do with slightly more material collecting at that point of the bar during the powder coating process. There's no other reason I could think of that most peoples' plastic caps would work and two peoples' wouldn't. Has to be some freak thing with the finish, I'm guessing.

It's also the only place I've ever crashed :o. Did that just north of Santo on an FZ6 when I was first getting back into riding.

I don't mean to get off-topic but how'd you like that FZ6? I ride a 2011 FZ8 myself and absolutely love it! Although I have to say, frequenting this forum has got me wanting a damn Connie!

* I think they look fine.  I would prefer a more dull silver than the bright chrome.  The chrome rears I already installed match better.  The fronts would probably have blended better in black; although there are enough other silver- bright and dull, on the bike to pull it together.  If I had it to do over, I might go all black.

* I am not happy with the overall attachment design of the Canyons; the reason being that they are far more difficult and time consuming to install and remove than I had anticipated (even with better tools).  I especially dislike the forward-pointing bolt that supports the bottom/front mount.  When the Canyons are removed (like if you had to take it in for service), you can't ride the bike without first putting back all the original bolts.  I think it would have been far better if there were permanent brackets inside the fairings and the bars mount to those much more easily; of course this would trade ease of use for some strength.  I had pictured quickly removing three user-facing bolts per side, which is not the case.

Yea, the chrome is pretty bright. What do you mean the rears match better, though? Do you mean they match the rear section of the bike better because the fronts overlap that flat black plastic subfairing towards the front of the bike? The rears you have in chrome and the Canyon Cage are finished identically. They were done through the same plater with the same exact process and both bars should look exactly the same as one another.

I'm sorry to hear you're not totally satisfied with the overall attachment though. However, you did say yourself that with the correct tools (and knowledge from previously putting on and taking off the bars) it would take less than 30 minutes to put them on or take them off which really doesn't seem too bad. If we were to use a design like you're recommending where there are brackets just inside the fairing that allow you to remove the exterior of the Canyon Cage while leaving the mounting brackets, you'd still have to work through some tight spaces which seems to be the most time consuming part of the install and would surely add cost as well. The only way to truly get a "quick-release" style would be to use a cotter pin and swage design which would severely reduce the strength. We came to the conclusion that the trade off of a 30 minute install was worth the assurance that the bar wouldn't crumble when the bike was dropped. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue with you or change your opinion. I'm just trying to explain our position and why we made some of the structural decisions we ended up making.

Are you positive about that?  (You did it/tested that?) If so, that might be an option- could you elaborate (with pics if possible) exactly what cut you mean?  Are you cutting the thinnest, forward attachment point of the second-to-top-most vent fin or something?

Don't quote me on this but I believe the cut he's talking about is the one pictured below:

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/1400-120E.jpg)

I know people have done this modification to make the fairings easier to remove with our law enforcement guards but I don't think anyone has verified this with our Canyon Cages. I assume it would work the same way but I can't be positive.

The instructions say that the engine bolts are 10mm.  They're 8mm.  At least on Dalroo and my 2010 models, they were 8mm.

There are both 10mm and 8mm motor mounts on the Connie. The Canyon Cage, however, only uses the 10mm points to mount.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 02, 2012, 02:15:17 pm
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There are both 10mm and 8mm motor mounts on the Connie. The Canyon Cage, however, only uses the 10mm points to mount. ...

10mm bolt uses a 8mm (5/16) drive... I think that's where the confusion with Necron's comment comes in.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 02, 2012, 02:30:37 pm
That'd be it. :D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Texas Concours14 on July 02, 2012, 02:58:37 pm
Necron99 and Ryan - thanks for the photos on the cuts to the fairing.  Any advice on how to cut the fairing without cracking it?  Also, anyone know if the fairing stability is effected by these cuts?  Specifically, I am wondering if they might rattle a bit with the end piece of the fins being transformed from one solid piece to three disconnected pieces.  Thanks in advance for any advice.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 02, 2012, 03:06:56 pm
No clue, I haven't cut it.  Ask the guy in the other thread, I'm sure he'll be happy to provide feedback.

If I do cut it, I'll use a dremel.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 02, 2012, 03:16:54 pm
Necron99 and Ryan - thanks for the photos on the cuts to the fairing.  Any advice on how to cut the fairing without cracking it?  Also, anyone know if the fairing stability is effected by these cuts?  Specifically, I am wondering if they might rattle a bit with the end piece of the fins being transformed from one solid piece to three disconnected pieces.  Thanks in advance for any advice.

I believe some customers have made that modification with a dremel after taping parts of the fairing off so the paint wouldn't chip. You can also do it with a fine-tooth hacksaw, again, after taping the fairing to reduce the paint chipping. I'd probably recommend the hacksaw, myself. Just seems a bit safer and less likely to chip the paint or crack the plastic. I don't believe this would affect the fairing stability as the fairing is still one solid piece towards the left side of the photo I posted. There are small pieces of foam glued to those forwardmost sections where the front part of that fairing piece slides behind the main portion of the fairing which would help hold it tight and reduce vibration. You may have to cut and move the foam if you make this modification though so each little section has a piece of foam on it to help reduce vibration. Someone who has actually made this modification first-hand would probably be able to provide a bit better feedback.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Breaker19 on July 02, 2012, 03:20:45 pm
That's weird that your plastic plug didn't fit. We've sold over 75 of these sets now and I've only heard from two people that they had an issue with that plastic plug, everyone elses fit with no issue. I'm wondering if it's because material just happened to collect at that spot during the powder coating process which resulted in your plug not fitting. There's no other reason I can come up with that 2 out of 75+ wouldn't work. For some reason a couple people had an issue with that plastic cap not fitting. For the vast majority of others, it went in with no problems whatsoever. I'm wondering if it has something to do with slightly more material collecting at that point of the bar during the powder coating process. There's no other reason I could think of that most peoples' plastic caps would work and two peoples' wouldn't. Has to be some freak thing with the finish, I'm guessing.

I am thinking differences in the cheapo plastic cap, Ryan, as there was no build up at all on the inside of the recess. I pulled a rubber cap from a frame fastener on my DR650 that fit perfectly, so I think those plastic caps are just junk. That's all.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 02, 2012, 03:29:44 pm
I am thinking differences in the cheapo plastic cap, Ryan, as there was no build up at all on the inside of the recess. I pulled a rubber cap from a frame fastener on my DR650 that fit perfectly, so I think those plastic caps are just junk. That's all.

Ahhh, that could definitely be as well. I just assumed because those plastic caps are made with molds they're more likely to be identical whereas the powder coating is done partially by hand so it wouldn't surprise me if a bit of material was unevenly collected at those recesses from time to time. Either way, I'm glad to know you got it solved!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 02, 2012, 03:43:43 pm
Here is the thread where a guy with an 08 cut the fin for his bathroom bars.

[url]http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,30288.msg137261.html#msg137261[/url] ([url]http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,30288.msg137261.html#msg137261[/url])

You can see that the plastic is not really structurally necessary.  You would have to verify the correct slot before cutting.


I will point out that he is showing a gen 1 bike not a gen 2.  I am not sure if the stuff is the same or not...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 02, 2012, 03:50:59 pm
I will point out that he is showing a gen 1 bike not a gen 2.  I am not sure if the stuff is the same or not...

Nearly the same. The concept should work on both generations.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 02, 2012, 03:55:50 pm
Nearly the same. The concept should work on both generations.

Yea, it should work on both generations for the larger law enforcement bars. I just didn't want to assure someone it was going to work with the Canyon Cages yet as I haven't heard from anyone who's made the modification first hand with the CCs. If anyone with the Canyon Cages makes this modification, please let us know how it works out and a few pictures of the process would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 02, 2012, 03:59:01 pm
Yea, the chrome is pretty bright. What do you mean the rears match better, though? Do you mean they match the rear section of the bike better because the fronts overlap that flat black plastic subfairing towards the front of the bike?

Yes, that is what I mean.  The bars are identical chrome on the front and rear, but the rears just seem to match better to the bike in chrome than the fronts do.  I do think they look "OK",  but I realized I couldn't win with the silver bike using chrome or black bars.  I think a flat silver powerdercoat that matches the dull-silver hardware on the bike would be the best possible match.

I am curious about other forum members' opinions about how the chromes look on the silver bike.

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I'm sorry to hear you're not totally satisfied with the overall attachment though. However, you did say yourself that with the correct tools (and knowledge from previously putting on and taking off the bars) it would take less than 30 minutes to put them on or take them off which really doesn't seem too bad.

Well that, to me, is a lot of time/work to remove something just to then have to remove the fairings.  What I was expecting were just three user-facing bolts per side that would take maybe 2 min to remove.

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If we were to use a design like you're recommending where there are brackets just inside the fairing that allow you to remove the exterior of the Canyon Cage while leaving the mounting brackets, you'd still have to work through some tight spaces which seems to be the most time consuming part of the install and would surely add cost as well.

To me, it wouldn't matter that is was a tight space if the bolts were facing toward the vent and not toward the front of the bike.  Just stick in an extension and bam.  That is my biggest problem.  It also means I wouldn't have to re-insert the factory mounting bolts afterward, either.   Yes, it might have increased the cost some; and might have affected some strength... just how much, I can't say (I am not an engineer :) )

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The only way to truly get a "quick-release" style would be to use a cotter pin and swage design which would severely reduce the strength.

Agreed.  But I never really expected that.  Far too weak.

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We came to the conclusion that the trade off of a 30 minute install was worth the assurance that the bar wouldn't crumble when the bike was dropped. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue with you or change your opinion. I'm just trying to explain our position and why we made some of the structural decisions we ended up making.

I understand.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on July 02, 2012, 05:23:59 pm
Max,

I do not think that the chrome looks bad and at this point since it is already installed I would probably keep it as is.  If you had not already installed them I would probably have chosen to color match the bike or maybe even just leave them black.   I have the 09 CD Red and am trying to decide right now if I want to powder coat them red or just leave them black.  If I should drop the bike I could easily spray the area with a semi-gloss and it would not be obvious, however a drop with the red would require another powder coat.   Hopefully neither of us will travel down that road.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on July 02, 2012, 05:57:25 pm


I am curious about other forum members' opinions about how the chromes look on the silver bike.



Well, I went with black for my silver 11. As I figured, the black bars almost disappear since they are over a black opening and the black lower faring. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 03, 2012, 05:48:46 am
My personal biggest complaint is the long main engine mount bolt and nut.  The nut is ugly.  But worse than ugly, the bolt is a smidgeon short and that doesn't inspire confidence.  And finally, the nut, being hex shaped, scratches the finish on the bar as you turn it, which means that there is a circle of scratch around the cage where it will corrode.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on July 03, 2012, 07:12:47 am
To Necron's point, I found this nut to be the least attractive piece in the install. To make it a bit less obtrusive, I took a black sharpie and "painted" it. Still not perfect, but it does not jump out quite as much now.

FYI - I am a Shriner and compete in various motorcycle drills. As a part of judging, our competition motorcycles are tech inspected for cleanliness and uniformity. One of the crucial items in our detail gear is a black sharpie. They are great for hiding minor blemishes in paint, and coloring in nuts and bolt heads. One of my competition motorcycles is a 1981 440 LTD and when completely detailed, it is a beautiful little machine.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 03, 2012, 07:57:39 am
To Necron's point, I found this nut to be the least attractive piece in the install. To make it a bit less obtrusive, I took a black sharpie and "painted" it. Still not perfect, but it does not jump out quite as much now.

FYI - I am a Shriner and compete in various motorcycle drills. As a part of judging, our competition motorcycles are tech inspected for cleanliness and uniformity. One of the crucial items in our detail gear is a black sharpie. They are great for hiding minor blemishes in paint, and coloring in nuts and bolt heads. One of my competition motorcycles is a 1981 440 LTD and when completely detailed, it is a beautiful little machine.

Sweet! Do you get to wear one of those cool hats?  ;)

No I'm never gonna do it without the fez on
Oh no
Don't make me do it without the fez on
Oh no
That's what I am please understand
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on July 03, 2012, 08:03:53 am
My personal biggest complaint is the long main engine mount bolt and nut.  The nut is ugly.  But worse than ugly, the bolt is a smidgeon short and that doesn't inspire confidence.  And finally, the nut, being hex shaped, scratches the finish on the bar as you turn it, which means that there is a circle of scratch around the cage where it will corrode.

The bolt is long enough IMO. It catches all the threads on the nut so good enough for me. It is horribly ugly though. After I installed the bars I taped everything off and painted the nut and subsequent scratches made by tightening it with a semi flat black that matches the frame and bars perfectly.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 08:25:59 am
My personal biggest complaint is the long main engine mount bolt and nut.  The nut is ugly.  But worse than ugly, the bolt is a smidgeon short and that doesn't inspire confidence.  And finally, the nut, being hex shaped, scratches the finish on the bar as you turn it, which means that there is a circle of scratch around the cage where it will corrode.

To Necron's point, I found this nut to be the least attractive piece in the install.

It is horribly ugly though. After I installed the bars I taped everything off and painted the nut and subsequent scratches made by tightening it with a semi flat black that matches the frame and bars perfectly.

Which bolt/nut are you guys talking about? The bolt towards the lower/front that's facing the exterior? I kinda thought it looked cool that way but obviously that's only the opinion of one guy. You all seem to think it's ugly as sin. This is something that can be easily changed, though. Do you think it'd be worth it to supplement that bolt for one that's been painted matte black to match the guards? Or are you guys talking about another bolt/nut altogether? I'm curious as to which one you guys are talking about so maybe I can have something done about it if that many of you really don't like it...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on July 03, 2012, 08:52:34 am
Ryan, the nut that goes onto the long engine bolt replacement. There is the black cap for the right side but the left is just the nut sticking out there.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 09:26:18 am
Ryan, the nut that goes onto the long engine bolt replacement. There is the black cap for the right side but the left is just the nut sticking out there.

Ohhh, I know which one you're talking about. Isn't that a step-nut so there's actually more thread there than what appears to be from the exterior? I understand the nut is a bit ugly but other people were commenting on the fact that it seemed the bolt only went into that nut a few threads which I didn't think was the case but I could be wrong. Do you think it would help if that nut was black? I'll see if that's a change we can make...

UPDATE: I just checked with my tech, Armando. That is indeed a step nut that has more threading than appears from the exterior. The thing is, when installing that long bolt, you may have to twist it slightly so it sits into its "saddle". If that long bolt is properly and completely installed, it'll be locked in place and unable to twist. Also, were going to look into painting those nuts. Armando was just afraid that if we were to paint them, the paint may get scuffed up during install when being cinched down.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 03, 2012, 10:03:05 am
"Show us your Canyon Cage"... Not enough pictures here!   :P
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 10:07:30 am
"Show us your Canyon Cage"... Not enough pictures here!   :P

Agreed! I'd love to see some action shots if at all possible. Maybe some of you guys can have a friend snap some shots while you guys corner through some twisties, that'd make my day!  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 03, 2012, 10:18:06 am

UPDATE: I just checked with my tech, Armando. That is indeed a step nut that has more threading than appears from the exterior. The thing is, when installing that long bolt, you may have to twist it slightly so it sits into its "saddle". If that long bolt is properly and completely installed, it'll be locked in place and unable to twist. Also, were going to look into painting those nuts. Armando was just afraid that if we were to paint them, the paint may get scuffed up during install when being cinched down.

+1 on a black bolt...

Anyone mounted these cages that has a Stebel Nautilus air horn installed under the left fairing? Will they both fit underneath?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on July 03, 2012, 10:23:14 am
+1 on a black bolt...

Anyone mounted these cages that has a Stebel Nautilus air horn installed under the left fairing? Will they both fit underneath?

Thanks!
That's on my list tonight/tomorrow when I finally get around to installing the bars...to see if I can get the Stebel to fit again. I'll have to modify the bracket I made, but I'm thinking it will work.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Mister Tee on July 03, 2012, 10:28:58 am
Twelve pages of posts, and.... has anyone "tested" them yet?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 03, 2012, 10:30:37 am
That's on my list tonight/tomorrow when I finally get around to installing the bars...to see if I can get the Stebel to fit again. I'll have to modify the bracket I made, but I'm thinking it will work.

Thanks! Looking forward to pics of that new bracket. I'm thinking that if the top of the bar doesn't push the horn too far down, I could mount directly to the cage. Will be interesting to see.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 03, 2012, 10:37:42 am
Twelve pages of posts, and.... has anyone "tested" them yet?
Oh ya, that was my first thought after I putting these on. Drop my 690lb motorcycle on PURPOSE!!   ::)

Too much sarcasm?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: McJunkie on July 03, 2012, 11:28:32 am
"Show us your Canyon Cage"... Not enough pictures here!   :P

Maybe we should rename this topic "Let's talked about your Canyon Cage". More pics please
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 03, 2012, 11:32:55 am
Maybe we should rename this topic "Let's talked about your Canyon Cage". More pics please

If only ZG had these bars...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 03, 2012, 11:43:07 am
If only ZG had these bars...
I could run over to his work. I heard he has a new smartphone.....  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 03, 2012, 12:07:01 pm
I could run over to his work. I heard he has a new smartphone.....  :rotflmao:

Go over there and turn his high beams on, the kill switch too.    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 03, 2012, 12:16:58 pm
I believe fully that the step nut gets "enough"...  But there are two things here.

1)  As I said, the nut is a hex nut, which "cuts" the paint in a circle and will likely lead to corrosion.
2)  The hole in that nut which isn't completely filled with bolt really needs to be filled with SOMETHING, as moisture is going to get in there and corrode, I'd think.  Maybe that's not as big a concern. 

I don't think that painting the nut would solve it, as you say Ryan.  It'd get scratched up pretty well during installation.  Maybe I'll fill the gap with RTV and hand enamel it black.

But my biggest concern is really point 1.  And I don't think we'll see how bad it is for a while.  But I believe that riding in the real world, in 2 years it's not going to look real good around that nut.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on July 03, 2012, 01:19:42 pm
I could run over to his work. I heard he has a new smartphone.....  :rotflmao:

Just got back to the office from The Rock, couple of us needed some 11:00 bloody's...  ;)
 
Looked for ya down there bro but didn't see ya?? What gives?  ??? :-\
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on July 03, 2012, 01:20:46 pm
If only ZG had these bars...

 ;D ;D ;D   :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 03, 2012, 01:32:55 pm
Looked for ya down there bro but didn't see ya?? What gives?  ??? :-\
Some times I actually do work all day.  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 03, 2012, 01:36:17 pm
Some times I actually do work all day.  :rotflmao:

As if...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 03, 2012, 01:42:47 pm
I notice that the people who thought there weren't' enough pics on this thread and it was too much of a discussion about the product are being incredibly helpful in that regard...

wait... too much sarcasm?  :)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on July 03, 2012, 01:52:08 pm
Some times I actually do work all day.  :rotflmao:

All work and no play makes Gumbi sober...  :(
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 03, 2012, 01:53:55 pm
I notice that the people who thought there weren't' enough pics on this thread and it was too much of a discussion about the product are being incredibly helpful in that regard...

wait... too much sarcasm?  :)

You got anymore?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 03, 2012, 02:01:05 pm
Sarcasm?? No NONE at ALL!  LOL

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 03, 2012, 02:31:15 pm
Excellent!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 03, 2012, 03:26:18 pm
Twelve pages of posts, and.... has anyone "tested" them yet?

Shut up!!!!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 03:30:40 pm
Shut up!!!!!

Why the harshness, Max? Is there some sort of inside joke I'm not aware of? I thought the guy was just asking if anyone has dropped the bike yet and "tested" the bars? Or do you not want him to jinx anyone? Lol!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 03, 2012, 04:04:08 pm
I'll bet on the latter.  :)

So do we have a "deal" where we can buy 1 side if we're an existing customer, should Very Bad Things happen?  :)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 04:22:02 pm
So do we have a "deal" where we can buy 1 side if we're an existing customer, should Very Bad Things happen?  :)

Anyone who has purchased any of our guards can call us up and get a side replaced should they have an accident and require a replacement!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 03, 2012, 04:30:32 pm
Or do you not want him to jinx anyone? Lol!

Exactly
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Mister Tee on July 03, 2012, 04:53:07 pm
No, not trying to jinx anyone of course!  But it's bound to happen at some point.  Reason I ask is because I'm less than impressed with the level of protection that the GSG sliders I installed on mine gave. (Yes, I unfortunately tested them out on the driveway.)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 03, 2012, 05:04:01 pm
No, not trying to jinx anyone of course!  But it's bound to happen at some point.  Reason I ask is because I'm less than impressed with the level of protection that the GSG sliders I installed on mine gave. (Yes, I unfortunately tested them out on the driveway.)

Well we tested the Canyon Cages before finalizing the prototype design and they did a good job of protecting the fairings, brake lever, shifter lever, exhaust, and mirrors in a low-to-no speed tip over. Unfortunately we couldn't test these bars going at any type of speed but it's my inclination that they'd still protect the bike in a variety of situations, they just weren't specifically built for it. However, they are a very strong, well-built product. I'm guessing you were looking for testimony from someone other than the company who made the bars though as I may be a tad biased!  ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 03, 2012, 09:52:41 pm
Okay... I'll "SHOW" my Cages...

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/d0063142.jpg)

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/075a45e5.jpg)

Got em a week ago... had a "bolt issue"... Ryan sent me a replacement bolt (kudos again, Ryan)... Success tonight. (Had the rears installed last week without incident)

I did attempt to modify the fairings to allow removal without unbolting the Cage, but I just don't think it's possible. It's actually the second fin that gets in the way (it would have to cut AT LEAST 1/3 off the end)... along with the angle between the painted upper and raw lower. Not to mention working with the various inner heat shields and such. So, here's hoping removal of the plastics is few and far between.

But, I did remove both of the insert tabs from the lower edge of the tupperware (at the top of the pic below), so it no longer engages the lower fairing. It's still pretty solid (nothing flops). If it ever becomes an issue, I think a strategic wellnut and bolt at the forward edge would keep the thing solid. In the mean time, pulling those plastics off is a BREEZE compared to before.

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/894040f1.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 03, 2012, 10:29:38 pm
The white looks great!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 04, 2012, 02:35:10 am
The white looks great!

Indeed!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 04, 2012, 05:39:31 am
Okay... I'll "SHOW" my Cages...

But, I did remove both of the insert tabs from the lower edge of the tupperware (at the top of the pic below), so it no longer engages the lower fairing. It's still pretty solid (nothing flops). If it ever becomes an issue, I think a strategic wellnut and bolt at the forward edge would keep the thing solid. In the mean time, pulling those plastics off is a BREEZE compared to before.

([url]http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/894040f1.jpg[/url])


+2 on the great looking white C14!

Did you remove those tabs on purpose?    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 04, 2012, 06:48:30 am
Can you show a detail of what you cut and why it doesn't work for removal?  I'm not visualizing what you're saying.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on July 04, 2012, 07:00:36 am
I'd like to see more as well. I'm concerned about upcoming services to the valves and things that would require removing the cages and putting the stock parts back on. The less we have to remove bolts that go into the engine or engine mounts the better.

I also think that white looks amazing. I wouldn't mind that paint job at all. Probably no more difficult than black to keep clean!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 04, 2012, 08:29:56 am
Add me to the list, also (wanting to know about fairing mods on gen2 to prevent need for canyon removal).  I can't visualize this stuff.  Doesn't help that I have only removed the fairings once on this bike, and it was over a year ago.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: coldhearted22 on July 04, 2012, 10:49:20 am
First post, this is how they looked on mine, 2012 C14. Thanks Ryan, great product, very satisfied, installation was a breeze, no issues. As long as you have the right tools...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 04, 2012, 11:30:35 am
I'll try to explain why the mod didn't work... (for me)...

Here is a pic of where I cut the fin... hoping it would slide over the Cage sim to the mod for the bathroom bars:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/abbb3873.jpg)
You can see what I used for the cuts... a single sided hacksaw. Used them on the 2 tabs, as well (looking at you, Conrad). Finish sanded with a Dremel, but the hacksaw made pretty clean cuts.


In this straight-on shot, the problem causing areas can be pointed out. 1) is the angle between the fairing pieces (right behind the loop). 2)  is the distance between the fairing seam and the loop itself. 3) is the fairing seam at the top, under the mirror mount. 4) are the inner shields and shrouds that engage behind the fins:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/d53e00bc.jpg)


1) The angle in the seam requires that the fairing kind of be installed from above and outside... bottom front first (with the fins), then the top front (point 3), then the back just kind of pops into place. Well... the bottom edge of the fairing is just a bit wider that the finished gap between the fairing and the loop... shown in point 2, below:


2) The gap between the fairing and the Cage loop:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/ed4acbfe.jpg)
Barely an inch to work with. I even tried loosening the Cage mounts to give more wiggle room, but it wasn't enough. I'm now thinking that it "might" be possible to remove more material at the bottom (where the 2 tabs were) to make this bottom edge "thinner", but I didn't think about it until this morning, so that exploration will have to wait until future fairing removal.


3) This is the seam at the top front of the panel:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/a4f367de.jpg)
Note that it wraps around the front fairing piece (up to the mirror AND back into the radiator area), which means that this part of the panel effectively needs to install from the outside... it can't really be slid in from the back of the bike (because of the angle pointed out in point 1). I was hoping that cutting the 2 tabs off the bottom (pics in previous post) would help this, but it really didn't.


4) Here is a pic of the seam between this panel and the inner shrouds:
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/1fa76e8a.jpg)
The entire inner seam behind the fins have these shrouds that they want to engage with, which means, even more, that this panel wants to be installed from outside the bike, and not slid in from the back.


Those who have removed these panels a few times will likely understand these points more... and I'm certainly not going to COMPLETELY give up on trying to make this idea work (per my idea stated in point 2 above)... but it was getting late, the weather is finally summer here in the PNW, and my other bike is in even more pieces, so I needed to get this bike back together.

As a sidenote... all of the installation steps at the front were MUCH easier to do with those panels off... so now I'm motivated to keep thinking about this. And, by all means, if someone figures out a way to make this mod work, post it up. I think most of us would be happier if we can make it work.

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 04, 2012, 12:19:29 pm
([url]http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/d0063142.jpg[/url])

Now I want a white one.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 04, 2012, 01:09:58 pm
I'll try to explain why the mod didn't work... (for me)...

Thanks for sharing all your experiences and pictures.  Sorry it didn't quite work out.  Hopefully you or someone will come up with a solution and share that too!  Happy riding :)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on July 04, 2012, 03:02:03 pm
Sorry, delayed response, yes Ryan, I get to wear one of the very cool red hats! No brim to block the sun, but I try not to wear outside too often anyway ;D

Here is a shot of my bike while out running errands this morning. Have we mentioned that in Texas, we do a lot of morning riding this time of the year? It gets a little warm from midday and later.

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on July 05, 2012, 05:37:15 am
Thanks! Looking forward to pics of that new bracket. I'm thinking that if the top of the bar doesn't push the horn too far down, I could mount directly to the cage. Will be interesting to see.

Cheers!
I was wrong; not a chance in hell the Stebel is going back under the lower left fairing.  The support bracket that comes up from the bottom of the Canyons takes up all remaining space.  I refuse to have it blast out directly at me from the upper right, so I may break out the dremel and preform surgery to split the compressor and horn.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on July 05, 2012, 06:52:04 am
My personal biggest complaint is the long main engine mount bolt and nut.  The nut is ugly.  But worse than ugly, the bolt is a smidgeon short and that doesn't inspire confidence.  And finally, the nut, being hex shaped, scratches the finish on the bar as you turn it, which means that there is a circle of scratch around the cage where it will corrode.

I agree that the nut on the rear bolt is ugly. Rather than paint it I picked up a can of black plastic dip and a dipped a bolt head about 10 times, once this set up I took a razor knife and cut the plastic flush at the bolt flange. I then peeled the rest off and had myself a nice black plastic cap for the bolt. The cap stays on with the friction of a tight fit but still comes off easily if needed for service.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 05, 2012, 06:58:11 am
That's a pretty darn good idea right there.  Thanks!  Now I gotta go find the right size bolt head....
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on July 05, 2012, 07:34:57 am
I was wrong; not a chance in hell the Stebel is going back under the lower left fairing.  The support bracket that comes up from the bottom of the Canyons takes up all remaining space.  I refuse to have it blast out directly at me from the upper right, so I may break out the dremel and preform surgery to split the compressor and horn.

I'm glad I opted out of the Stebel for this reason. Luckily, some guy at the bike dealer saw my wife's and asked her to blast it for him. He said he wanted one, I said I have one still in the package if you want it. He came over the next day and gave me the 65 bucks I spent on it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 05, 2012, 08:25:09 am
I was wrong; not a chance in hell the Stebel is going back under the lower left fairing.  The support bracket that comes up from the bottom of the Canyons takes up all remaining space.  I refuse to have it blast out directly at me from the upper right, so I may break out the dremel and preform surgery to split the compressor and horn.


Thanks. Keep me posted on the dremel solution (maybe with some pics). I like my Stebel, but am willing to trade it in for the cage - but only if I have to. Already pried the outside cover off the horn to give it a better fit, so I'm half way there.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on July 05, 2012, 09:46:53 am
Now I want a white one.

Here I was thinking Orange when the white is super sexy....decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 05, 2012, 09:51:07 am
Here I was thinking Orange when the white is super sexy....decisions, decisions.

Orange would be awesome! The white does look bad ass but I'd personally avoid it for one single reason: It makes you seem like a LEO wannabe.  :( However, it'd probably be really nice having traffic move out of your way instead of ignoring you and moving into your way!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 05, 2012, 10:06:39 am
Orange would be awesome! The white does look bad ass but I'd personally avoid it for one single reason: It makes you seem like a LEO wannabe.  :( However, it'd probably be really nice having traffic move out of your way instead of ignoring you and moving into your way!

Only person who's said something to me about it is a friend who is LEO... and so far, NOONE has slowed down around me (or driven any less stupidly, I still get tailgated regularly). Of course, the driving lights and flat white finish (and jeans, flat black helmet, etc, etc) do make it a little less LEO looking.

Now, if I had put the bathroom bars on it...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 05, 2012, 10:15:57 am
Only person who's said something to me about it is a friend who is LEO... and so far, NOONE has slowed down around me (or driven any less stupidly, I still get tailgated regularly). Of course, the driving lights and flat white finish (and jeans, flat black helmet, etc, etc) do make it a little less LEO looking.

Now, if I had put the bathroom bars on it...

Hahahahaha touché. I wasn't trying to offend or make fun of you or anything, the white really does look good (especially with the Canyon Cage on there  ;)). It's surprising that people don't get out of your way when you're coming up behind them, though.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 05, 2012, 10:24:33 am
It's surprising that people don't get out of your way when you're coming up behind them, though.
That was my thought as well. I have had cars jump into the right lane when I come up on them with my black bike. Courteous drivers? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 05, 2012, 10:34:02 am
... It's surprising that people don't get out of your way when you're coming up behind them, though.
That was my thought as well. I have had cars jump into the right lane when I come up on them with my black bike. Courteous drivers? I doubt it.

I wish they did (tho, NOT my reason for the paint job)... Riding is SO much more enjoyable without people in my way.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Mal on July 05, 2012, 11:03:32 am
That was my thought as well. I have had cars jump into the right lane when I come up on them with my black bike. Courteous drivers? I doubt it.

A white half-helmet and sunglasses does the trick as well...  8)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: danl on July 05, 2012, 01:53:18 pm
I rode down to a new local place today, my wife and I had stopped in a week or so ago and they have a lot of used/old new stock parts. Mostly HD stuff but they did have an assortment of highway pegs. I lucked into an unopened set of the black 1" Rivco peg mounts and picked up a used set of pegs for $40. At some point I'll get some all black pegs but for now the ones I got will do the trick. They had some all black rubber ones but they had the bar and shield on them.

I need to go to the hardware store to get some nuts and bolts to connect the pegs to the mounts. I'll get a pic up once I get it done.

Nothing like a refreshing ride in 97 degree heat!   
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 06, 2012, 07:09:14 pm
I am new to the site. I purchased my 2012 Concours a week ago and was sent to MC by a moto cop friend I served in the Marine Corps with. So after a couple of emails Ryan allowed me to come in to pick up a set he had left over from his first manufacturing run. I just picked up my bars last night and got them on in about 35 minutes. Ryan asked me to post some picks here when I did, until then I didn't know this site existed so here I am.
 I have to say the instructions are seriously lacking and if I wasn't a former mechanic who kept all of his tools, installing these puppies would be very confusing. Being mechanically inclined I basically just held them up and figured it out. Also I think the main motor mount bolt should have a washer on the right and left side. Even better on the right side instead of being tapered on the inside of the mount, I think it should be a piece of stock, milled to except the bolt but allow the head of the bolt to rest on a solid surface, not just the corners of the hex bolt against a tapered surface. On the left side it should have a washer just for the simple fact that when you tighten the nut it digs into the powder coating leaving exposed metal to eventually rust.  I will be correcting this with a small amount of black paint of course but A washer would be a better idea.
 Also this is something small but for me attention to detail shows thought and consideration, when my replacement bolts Allen sizes do not match the stock bolts it is annoying to me. Again this probably doesn't bother most people but for me it does. When I see attention paid to the smaller things it gives me a warm and fussy, confidence in the people who manufactured my product.
 All and all they look good and will serve the purpose intended rather well although after looking at them again today, I have a feeling the first time I have to remove the fairings I will be taking my MIG welder and some stock to these babies.  Making some much needed modifications to make them easier to remove and re-install.
One more note, if I didn't own a compact flex head 3/8" air ratchet, I think I would have wanted to hurt someone when it came to installing the inner forward facing nuts ;-)

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Connie-3-.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Connie-2-.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Connie-1-.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on July 06, 2012, 07:25:08 pm
Have you got any photos I don't have to join a club to see?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 06, 2012, 08:52:36 pm
One more note, if I didn't own a compact flex head 3/8" air ratchet, I think I would have wanted to hurt someone when it came to installing the inner forward facing nuts ;-)

Exactly.  Imagine trying to do it with a regular wrench.....  (yes, that is all I had).

Anyway........  Welcome!!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 07, 2012, 06:04:07 am
I am new to the site. I purchased my 2012 Concours a week ago and was sent to MC by a moto cop friend I served in the Marine Corps with.

 When I see attention paid to the smaller things it gives me a warm and fussy, confidence in the people who manufactured my product.



Welcome!

"warm and fussy"?

You're going to fit in here pretty well me thinks.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on July 07, 2012, 06:41:10 am
I just did almost 3000 miles with the Canyon Cage with highway pegs. I couldn't be happier with this product.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 07, 2012, 09:43:57 am
Haven't got mine yet.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 07, 2012, 10:22:33 am
Ha warm and fussy..... I was teasing a friend the other day about using an S in fuzzy, what a dork :-)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 07, 2012, 01:36:23 pm
Karma?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 07, 2012, 04:05:30 pm
Haven't got mine yet.

They should be there any day now. Ill check your order when I'm back in the office on Monday and see where they're at for you.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 07, 2012, 05:22:58 pm
Considering I'm a gen 1 (the greatest of them all) you might have a hard time with that Ryan.   :rotflmao:   Too much Tequila at the moment.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on July 07, 2012, 05:38:41 pm
 :rotflmao: .....you shouldn't screw with the civilians like that. It's just mean.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 07, 2012, 05:50:49 pm
Exactly.  Imagine trying to do it with a regular wrench.....  (yes, that is all I had).

Anyway........  Welcome!!

No I cant imagine it, don't want to imagine it and thank you for the welcome.

Karma?
Probably :-D
I just did almost 3000 miles with the Canyon Cage with highway pegs. I couldn't be happier with this product.
If my post came off as a rant that was not the intent. As far as looks and protection for the bike they do that perfectly, I am very pleased with the aesthetics.  The design and function are great and I can imagine highway pegs will make a great addition on long rides, I ordered a cheap pair myself the night I installed the bars. Ryan made me think by our conversation that these bars are a collaboration between the members of this site and his company and critiques for future improvements where not only welcomed but encouraged. I feel my issues with the directions are valid along with the ability to easily remove these bars when it comes time to service the bike. I cant imagine removing this current design every time I need to remove the fairings. I already know how I will modify mine the next time I need to remove the fairings :-D so sorry if I offended.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on July 07, 2012, 06:00:29 pm
No offense here. Read your commentary with interest.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 07, 2012, 07:56:40 pm
I already know how I will modify mine the next time I need to remove the fairings :-D so sorry if I offended.
That would be a good thread to start when you do that (pictures, lots of them). I am very interested in modifying mine for quick removal as well.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 07, 2012, 08:32:47 pm
I agree with some points for sure, and I'd be very interested to hear how you intend to make modification for ease of service.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 09, 2012, 08:32:15 am
I I did the tool dip cap thing this weekend.  I threw a little RTV inside the cap, and it squirted out a bit.  I'll clean it up when it's dry but here's what it looks like.  Way better than that nut.

(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/canyonbars/cap.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 09, 2012, 11:48:05 am
I already know how I will modify mine the next time I need to remove the fairings :-D so sorry if I offended.

No offense taken whatsoever! We do appreciate and encourage feedback on all of our products. I've actually already updated the instructions based on feedback from various forum members.

I'm also interested in this modification you're planning on doing. Are you planning on modifying the bar itself or the fairings somehow? I know there's a modification some people do to the fairings that make them easier to take off with our law enforcement guards installed but I can't be sure it would work the same way with the Canyon Cage as nobody has tried it yet. I would love to know more about this mod you're considering!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 09, 2012, 12:06:34 pm
Actually Ryan, a guy DID try it, see page 15.  He said that didn't work.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 09, 2012, 12:38:56 pm
Actually Ryan, a guy DID try it, see page 15.  He said that didn't work.

Oh, wow, you're right. I don't know how I missed that. Thank you for pointing it out!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on July 09, 2012, 12:45:14 pm
Actually Ryan, a guy DID try it, see page 15.  He said that didn't work.

Well... Didn't work "YET". If I think of something, you can be sure I'll post it up here. (I sure want it to work)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 09, 2012, 12:50:53 pm
Well... Didn't work "YET". If I think of something, you can be sure I'll post it up here. (I sure want it to work)

I'm thinking there's a way to make it work, we just need to figure out what it is! Next time we have a Connie in our shop to work on, I'm going to see if our tech and I may be able to come up with a way to make a mod like this work. That is if stoneworrior doesn't beat us to it! The only thing is, I have a feeling stoneworrior is considering a modification to the bar itself to make it easier to remove. What we're talking about here is a modification to the fairing to make the fairing easier to remove with the bar still installed. Most people probably don't have the means to modify the bar itself (welder/bender/cold saw). A fairing modification is probably a bit more feasible for a larger majority of people out there.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 09, 2012, 02:59:33 pm
Yeah, I'm down with cutting a little non essential plastic.  My fabrication limits were stretched making that tool-dip cover for the ugly nut.  LOL
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 09, 2012, 07:05:38 pm
My idea is to cut the round stock that attaches to the flat stock on the upper motor mount. Cut it far enough from the flat stock that I could slide a solid piece of round stock into the pipe for support/strength that would slide about 1 1/2" into both sides fitting snugly. I would drill two holes on the motor side of the original canyon cage pipe and button hole weld the round stock permanently into the motor mount side. I would then weld a diamond shaped piece of flat stock on both ends of the canyon cage round pipe so when I slid both pieces back together the flat stock on both ends would meet flush with the solid inner round stock providing inner strength at the cut. I would drill holes in all three corners of the diamond shaped flat stock and weld the head of three bolts into the motor mount side facing outward, this would make them a permanent part of that section. So when I slide them together I could easily thread nuts onto the three bolts holding the two sections of the original canyon cage firmly together and the round stock would shore up or strengthen that area in case of a tip over. The original canyon cage flat stock that has the bolt that is very hard to reach, I would heat both ends up and put a 1/4 turn into the metal. Of course this would shorten them so the original bolt and hole will no longer align. I would grind off the old bolt, fill in both holes with welds and drill new holes. I would then weld in a new bolt that would now be facing outward, easily allowing me to us a socket extension to drive the nut onto the bolt. One note, the flat stock would have to be twisted lower down to make sure you do not block the motor mount bolt. Any way this idea will allow you to remove four bolts on each side at the upper motor mount section and the one main rear motor mount bolt to allow for easy removal essentially making the upper motor mount a point that should never have to be removed again , it would always stay on the bike. I am not a very good artist but I will try my best to illustrate this during the week when I have some time. Wow I can barely understand my own writing, I've been up since 3:30 worked ten hours and drove 140 miles round trip then came home and ran three miles. Its time for bed I cannot think straight anymore, I sure seem to have a hard time putting my thoughts into print! Hey I spent 16 years as a Jarhead, if it isn't drinking or fighting I'm worthless :-)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 10, 2012, 08:01:22 am
Went with the Rivco highway pegs. I tried many different positions and found the one below the most comfortable for me, and plus when the pegs are folded up they take the same line as the fairing. I tried to mount them higher so they would not be the first things to hit in a corner, but that was not comfortable. If I want to carve some corners I will fold them up and then my Buell pegs are once again going to be the first thing to scrape.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2178.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2179.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2181.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2180.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2177.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/RealTime%20reflectors/IMG_2176.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Mal on July 10, 2012, 08:10:19 am
Went with the Rivco highway pegs. I tried many different positions and found the one below the most comfortable for me, and plus when the pegs are folded up they take the same line as the fairing. I tried to mount them higher so they would not be the first things to hit in a corner, but that was not comfortable. If I want to carve some corners I will fold them up and then my Buell pegs are once again going to be the first thing to scrape.


The Rivco pegs are adjustable enough to work with the bathroom bars as well...  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 10, 2012, 10:49:07 am
My idea is to cut the round stock that attaches to the flat stock on the upper motor mount. Cut it far enough from the flat stock that I could slide a solid piece of round stock into the pipe for support/strength that would slide about 1 1/2" into both sides fitting snugly. I would drill two holes on the motor side of the original canyon cage pipe and button hole weld the round stock permanently into the motor mount side. I would then weld a diamond shaped piece of flat stock on both ends of the canyon cage round pipe so when I slid both pieces back together the flat stock on both ends would meet flush with the solid inner round stock providing inner strength at the cut. I would drill holes in all three corners of the diamond shaped flat stock and weld the head of three bolts into the motor mount side facing outward, this would make them a permanent part of that section. So when I slide them together I could easily thread nuts onto the three bolts holding the two sections of the original canyon cage firmly together and the round stock would shore up or strengthen that area in case of a tip over. The original canyon cage flat stock that has the bolt that is very hard to reach, I would heat both ends up and put a 1/4 turn into the metal. Of course this would shorten them so the original bolt and hole will no longer align. I would grind off the old bolt, fill in both holes with welds and drill new holes. I would then weld in a new bolt that would now be facing outward, easily allowing me to us a socket extension to drive the nut onto the bolt. One note, the flat stock would have to be twisted lower down to make sure you do not block the motor mount bolt. Any way this idea will allow you to remove four bolts on each side at the upper motor mount section and the one main rear motor mount bolt to allow for easy removal essentially making the upper motor mount a point that should never have to be removed again , it would always stay on the bike. I am not a very good artist but I will try my best to illustrate this during the week when I have some time. Wow I can barely understand my own writing, I've been up since 3:30 worked ten hours and drove 140 miles round trip then came home and ran three miles. Its time for bed I cannot think straight anymore, I sure seem to have a hard time putting my thoughts into print! Hey I spent 16 years as a Jarhead, if it isn't drinking or fighting I'm worthless :-)

Dang, that seems like quite a project! I do get what you're saying though and I believe you could get it to work the way you're thinking it will. Remember to take some photos for all of us here on the forum when you start this modification as I'm sure a lot of people would like to follow along with some visuals.

I have to mention, though: This or any type of physical modification to the Canyon Cage (or any of our products, for that matter) will void the warranty. Adding highway pegs and other clamp-on accessories like that is totally fine but any type of bending, cutting, welding, etc. will indeed void the warranty. This is probably obvious to most of you but I just wanted to be sure to put it out there before any of you guys begin modifying the bar.

Went with the Rivco highway pegs.

Man, those black RivCo pegs really do look good on the black Canyon Cage!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 10, 2012, 11:00:37 am
Dang, that seems like quite a project! I do get what you're saying though and I believe you could get it to work the way you're thinking it will. Remember to take some photos for all of us here on the forum when you start this modification as I'm sure a lot of people would like to follow along with some visuals.

I have to mention, though: This or any type of physical modification to the Canyon Cage (or any of our products, for that matter) will void the warranty. Adding highway pegs and other clamp-on accessories like that is totally fine but any type of bending, cutting, welding, etc. will indeed void the warranty. This is probably obvious to most of you but I just wanted to be sure to put it out there before any of you guys begin modifying the bar.


Ordering them in chrome should void the warranty too.     :stirpot:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on July 10, 2012, 11:04:29 am
Ordering them in chrome should void the warranty too.
Chrome on a connie should void the factory warranty!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on July 10, 2012, 11:30:16 am
Ordering them in chrome should void the warranty too.     :stirpot:
now thats funny right there....
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 10, 2012, 11:31:32 am
Ordering them in chrome should void the warranty too.     :stirpot:

Am I the only one who likes the look of the chrome Canyon Cage on the black Connies?! I totally agree the black Canyon Cages look better on the other colors (and the black CC on a black bike isn't bad either) but the chrome really looks cool on the black bike, I personally think. It kinda makes the chrome Kawasaki and Concours badges on the bike stick out.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 10, 2012, 11:35:08 am
Am I the only one who likes the look of the chrome Canyon Cage on the black Connies?! I totally agree the black Canyon Cages look better on the other colors (and the black CC on a black bike isn't bad either) but the chrome really looks cool on the black bike, I personally think. It kinda makes the chrome Kawasaki and Concours badges on the bike stick out.

Most of the C14 owners that I know bought the C14 to escape the chrome crowd.   ;D


Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 10, 2012, 11:41:46 am
Am I the only one who likes the look of the chrome Canyon Cage on the black Connies?! I totally agree the black Canyon Cages look better on the other colors (and the black CC on a black bike isn't bad either) but the chrome really looks cool on the black bike, I personally think. It kinda makes the chrome Kawasaki and Concours badges on the bike stick out.

Perhaps, how many orders were placed for chrome bars?    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 10, 2012, 11:47:49 am
Most of the C14 owners that I know bought the C14 to escape the chrome crowd.   ;D

Ahhhh, that would make sense then. I just thought it was funny how anti-chrome some of you guys are! I do agree that the black Canyon Cages look good on the majority of the Connies as opposed to the chrome, though. My bike has almost zero chrome on it, now that I think about it. The only chrome on it is the stock header portion of the exhaust. Man, I wish I could have the shop here make me a custom set of Canyon Cages for my bike!

Perhaps, how many orders were placed for chrome bars?    ;)

Hahahaha! I think we only had about 4 or 5 orders for chrome on the 2010-2012 and I think I have one order for chrome for the 2008-2009. So, yea, black is much more popular among you Connie riders.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Mal on July 10, 2012, 12:14:26 pm
Most of the C14 owners that I know bought the C14 to escape the chrome crowd.   ;D

Yeah, most of them can't stand to see their reflections...  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 10, 2012, 01:23:13 pm
Blue is cooler.  Just sayin'.  ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Dalroo on July 10, 2012, 03:55:24 pm
Blue is cooler.  Just sayin'.  ;)

+1
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 10, 2012, 04:37:53 pm
Ordering them in chrome should void the warranty too.     :stirpot:

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 10, 2012, 07:48:04 pm
Chrome bad,very very bad. My current stable of ponies proves my opinion on this......
2005 Gixxer 600
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Screenshot_2012-07-10-18-50-24-1.png)
2011 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/IMG_20120623_111256.jpg)
And of course the newest addition....
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/IMG_20120704_145130.jpg)
so yeah I'm kinda partial to black bikes :-D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 11, 2012, 04:35:25 am
Chrome bad,very very bad. My current stable of ponies proves my opinion on this......

so yeah I'm kinda partial to black bikes :-D

Not a Canyon Cage in the bunch...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 06:56:14 am
Not a Canyon Cage in the bunch...

I didn't have my glasses on when I posted that and I was using my phone like I am right now so it is hard for me to see on my phone what pictures of my bike do and do not have the canyon cage installed. But if you read through the post you would have seen photos of my bike with the cage so your comment can only be taken one way and that is you being a ****
 I just love how people get internet balls when they are sitting behind a computer. Here happy now.....
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Connie-3-.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 11, 2012, 07:11:12 am
he said "balls"   :rotflmao:


 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 11, 2012, 08:31:40 am
I didn't have my glasses on when I posted that and I was using my phone like I am right now so it is hard for me to see on my phone what pictures of my bike do and do not have the canyon cage installed. But if you read through the post you would have seen photos of my bike with the cage so your comment can only be taken one way and that is you being a ****
 I just love how people get internet balls when they are sitting behind a computer. Here happy now.....


 :o

Yep, that's me being an a ****. I get that way from time to time, just ask my wife.    8)

I was happy before but thanks.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 11, 2012, 08:43:33 am
C'mon, guys. We're all friends here and I truly believe that Conrad meant no offense, stoneworrior. Conrad is a sarcastic jokester and I'm sure he was just yanking your chain. I probably shouldn't be getting in the middle of this but I'd really just like to keep this thread friendly and on-track.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 11, 2012, 08:48:20 am
Ryan is right, I was just messing with you Stoneworrier.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 09:02:03 am
Its all good and I don't hold a grudge. If it wasn't his intent then I apologize for my comment. Im just jaded from other websites where the grammer and off topic police start screwing with people. I guess I need to relax and realize this isn't that kind of place. I am never rude to someone just to stir up trouble and I have dealt with so many of those types around the internet that I am ready to pounce at a moments notice. Sorry I'll dial it back a few and verify next time, my bad.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 11, 2012, 09:08:03 am
Its all good and I don't hold a grudge. If it wasn't his intent then I apologize for my comment. Im just jaded from other websites where the grammer and off topic police start screwing with people. I guess I need to relax and realize this isn't that kind of place. I am never rude to someone just to stir up trouble and I have dealt with so many of those types around the internet that I am ready to pounce at a moments notice. Sorry I'll dial it back a few and verify next time, my bad.

That makes sense. Most people on the internet (especially on forums) ARE like that so I don't blame you for being ready and willing to defend yourself. We're a lot more laid back here though and most of us are friends so we tend to joke around quite a bit. Thanks for your understanding, though!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 09:21:07 am
That's good to know, now I feel like I can relax. I was just thinking when I originally read the post was " Great it is going to be one of those forums"
On another note, Ryan what year did you graduate N.P.? My son graduated in 07 and was on the baseball team. Alex Stone ring a bell by chance?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 11, 2012, 09:34:11 am
your comment can only be taken one way and that is you being a ****
I just love how people get internet balls when they are sitting behind a computer. Here happy now.....

To much coffee maybe?  ???

C'mon, guys. We're all friends here and I truly believe that Conrad meant no offense, stoneworrior. Conrad is a sarcastic jokester and I'm sure he was just yanking your chain. I probably shouldn't be getting in the middle of this but I'd really just like to keep this thread friendly and on-track.

Ryan is running for office.  8)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 11, 2012, 09:35:50 am
That's good to know, now I feel like I can relax. I was just thinking when I originally read the post was " Great it is going to be one of those forums"
On another note, Ryan what year did you graduate N.P.? My son graduated in 07 and was on the baseball team. Alex Stone ring a bell by chance?

Hahahahaha! Yea, this is actually one of the GOOD forums! Anyway, I didn't go to N.P. although a ton of the people I used to hang out with went there. I had more friends at N.P. than I did at T.O. so I might as well have went there. I graduated in 2005, though. My younger brother and even younger sister both went to N.P, though. My brother graduated in 2008 and my sister is a senior there currently. That name doesn't ring a bell to me but my brother may actually know him!

Ryan is running for office.  8)

I would probably do a better job than most of the people currently in office! Hmmmmm, maybe I should run...LOL!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 10:02:48 am
Gumbi I've been up since three AM with four hours of sleep I could use some coffee right about now :-D
Sorry Ryan I misunderstood about you going to N.P. my youngest boy Tim graduated in 2010 and was the Capt. Of the wrestling team and my oldest daughter McCall is a Jr and is on the year book staff as the lead photographer. I'm sure they all at least know of each other.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 11, 2012, 10:18:35 am
Sorry Ryan I misunderstood about you going to N.P. my youngest boy Tim graduated in 2010 and was the Capt. Of the wrestling team and my oldest daughter McCall is a Jr and is on the year book staff as the lead photographer. I'm sure they all at least know of each other.

It's okay! Oh, wow, that's pretty cool! Yea, I'm sure they at least know of each other. They may have even had a class together or something. What a small world!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on July 11, 2012, 10:23:54 am
Im just jaded from other websites where the grammer and off topic police start screwing with people. I guess I need to relax and realize this isn't that kind of place.

You misspelled grammar.  :rotflmao:
(sorry stonew', sometimes my typing fingers {yeah, both of them}
are easily led astray into the stirring world.  :stirpot: )

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 11, 2012, 10:37:55 am

You misspelled grammar.  :rotflmao:
(sorry stonew', sometimes my typing fingers {yeah, both of them}
are easily led astray into the stirring world.  :stirpot: )

Right when he starts realizing this is a different (and better!) type of forum, out come the grammar police! =( For shame, fartymarty! Hahahahahaha just kidding!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 11:06:39 am
Good thing FartMarty isn't British or he would be on me for using a z in realize  ;D
Okay I'm liking this place  8)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on July 11, 2012, 02:50:51 pm
Okay I'm liking this place  8)
Good deal... Now let's break bread and lift our glasses  :grouphug:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on July 11, 2012, 03:57:34 pm
 :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 11, 2012, 04:43:40 pm
Good thing FartMarty isn't British or he would be on me for using a z in realize  ;D
Okay I'm liking this place  8)

Someone rang?  I go out for a day and things go a bit off kilter.  Glad you guys got it straightened out.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 11, 2012, 05:31:42 pm
Grammar is the difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****.  :)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on July 11, 2012, 05:37:19 pm
Grammar is the difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****.  :)
  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on July 11, 2012, 08:04:30 pm
I've been accused of bad grammar and bad behavior before but at least I'm not this guy. You know his friends still give him crap for this.....
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/facebook_-2066316191jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on July 12, 2012, 03:54:02 am
Probably got himself a new set of friends when he went to jail.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 12, 2012, 02:53:33 pm
I've been accused of bad grammar and bad behavior before but at least I'm not this guy. You know his friends still give him crap for this.....

LOL!

Probably got himself a new set of friends when he went to jail.

C'mon, now! How do we know he isn't just some basketball player who missed a clutch free throw?!  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 28, 2012, 07:34:40 pm
My Canyon Cage and rear guards were waiting for me when I returned from my month long summer ride.  Got them installed this weekend.  I chose the Chrome ones because I liked the way they look on the black bike.  They go with all the other chrome bits on the bike.

installation was very straight forward.  Did it by myself even though the instructions mentioned having a helper.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on July 29, 2012, 05:03:01 pm
I really hate the "bathroom bars" on these bikes and I am not a fan of the price of the Top Block ones but these Canyon cages look good. I'm really thinking of getting some now.
Looked at the website but can't find any prices on cages for the '08-09 years.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on July 30, 2012, 06:02:04 am
First post.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9386.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9386.0)


I really hate the "bathroom bars" on these bikes and I am not a fan of the price of the Top Block ones but these Canyon cages look good. I'm really thinking of getting some now.
Looked at the website but can't find any prices on cages for the '08-09 years.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on July 30, 2012, 09:20:59 am
I really hate the "bathroom bars" on these bikes and I am not a fan of the price of the Top Block ones but these Canyon cages look good. I'm really thinking of getting some now.
Looked at the website but can't find any prices on cages for the '08-09 years.

Cost for the 2008-2009 Canyon Cage is $275 for the front and $175 for the Saddle Bag Guards. However, we're currently offering 10% off through the remainder of this month and I can also cover the shipping cost for you!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on July 30, 2012, 01:50:32 pm
Cost for the 2008-2009 Canyon Cage is $275 for the front and $175 for the Saddle Bag Guards. However, we're currently offering 10% off through the remainder of this month and I can also cover the shipping cost for you!

 ;D
PM'ed you my info.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Bugnut on August 04, 2012, 11:30:54 am
For the sake of showing off...

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/bugnut_bucket/Kawabunga/IMG_8096.jpg)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/bugnut_bucket/Kawabunga/IMG_8099.jpg)

Mike
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Daytona_Mike on August 04, 2012, 02:17:13 pm
Mike,  something looks different. Crash bars and no forward foot pegs??
Duh! I just figured out what a Canyon Cage is.  I thought it was just another name for a sport bike.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 04, 2012, 04:57:03 pm
For the sake of showing off...

([url]http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/bugnut_bucket/Kawabunga/IMG_8096.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/bugnut_bucket/Kawabunga/IMG_8099.jpg[/url])

Mike


What lights are those?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 05, 2012, 06:08:35 pm
http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_44/products_id/33 (http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_44/products_id/33)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on August 05, 2012, 06:31:15 pm
Okay, got them in and they look great! Now where to I put the Stebel Air Horn?!  :o
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Bugnut on August 06, 2012, 06:32:45 am
Mike,  something looks different. Crash bars and no forward foot pegs??
Duh! I just figured out what a Canyon Cage is.  I thought it was just another name for a sport bike.

Working on ideas for a forward peg Mike. Should have something soon. Gotta stretch my legs!!

What lights are those?

556ALPHA is right, 24x7DIY lights at that site. BRIGHT!!

Mike

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 06, 2012, 12:06:18 pm
Mike, could you explain how you wired them from a novice point of view?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 06, 2012, 08:08:17 pm
Got mine today and here are my two tips:  Also if you are doing a coolant change it will be easier if you do that first as the bars make moving the overflow tank around a little more difficult.
Last pic finally done.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Bugnut on August 09, 2012, 01:10:32 pm
Mike, could you explain how you wired them from a novice point of view?  Thanks.

For the forks, just with a switch and a relay like any other aux light out there. For the high beam ones, I used a hot lead of the high beam (switch) to trigger a relay directly from the battery. Again like standard aux lights just replacing the switch with the high beam trigger wire.

Mike.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 09, 2012, 01:14:02 pm
thanks, any more issues with the lenses?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Bugnut on August 09, 2012, 01:50:52 pm
None since I made the plexi ones for the folks units. The under mirror ones are still glass, they hadn't changed them from my initial purchase of the folk units. But no issues since installing.

Better put in a pic to keep us on "topic"! ;)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/bugnut_bucket/Kawabunga/IMG_8098.jpg)

Mike
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on August 09, 2012, 10:54:36 pm
Have a new shot of my cages with Rivco pegs installed  :-[

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/kiruvetat/9b09d6db.jpg)


More shots posted in CDA: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10193.new#new (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10193.new#new)


For those concerned about clearance with the Rivco's installed (for just such an emergency) mine were mounted pointing down, at the back edge of the hoop (Gen 2 design).
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Awaz on August 11, 2012, 08:16:26 pm
Installed my cages today and attached are pics. Sorry, they are not as photogenic as some other folks - did not quite have the time to set everything out. Had to boggie out of the garage as we are having a open house tomorrow. The oil spot on the floor you see is from my jeep marking its territory - done it since past 7 years, but no issues.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 12, 2012, 06:24:55 am
Installed my cages today and attached are pics.

You didn't get the rears??
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 12, 2012, 06:35:49 am
You didn't get the rears??

I'd like to see what the tipover results are with just the fronts installed. We might get to see that sooner rather than later eh?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 12, 2012, 07:00:16 am
I'd like to see what the tipover results are with just the fronts installed. We might get to see that sooner rather than later eh?

Probably.  Well, it is obvious the bags will be scraped to hell and broken with harder falls.  The big question is how it will affect other areas once the bag is "crunched" and the bike is allowed to go down further.  Might take several accidents each with different types of loads and falls/drags to really know.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Awaz on August 12, 2012, 10:57:34 am
No rears. Could not get the budget passed. So got what I could! lol
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 13, 2012, 10:44:11 am
I was thinking about mounting some LED light pods to the front part of the Canyons.  Has anyone used the PIAA L Brackets?  Thanks
(http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0020/0685/b239a031-0fd5-4ed1-9722-2ac9d8e4d488_detail.jpg) 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on August 18, 2012, 02:37:37 am
7 days into a 16 day ride. Highway pegs on the CC's rock.

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/7E2B84A4-2437-4A2A-A2C0-AC1DB19BB8CF-7328-00000BB91C88C0BF.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/819BB5A6-BFB5-4263-B046-738C82B16EA1-7328-00000D4D02639793.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/C2828DBF-3C33-4FA0-909E-7F812DB5D067-148-000000044CDAB702.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 18, 2012, 02:31:18 pm
7 days into a 16 day ride. Highway pegs on the CC's rock.

I just got back from a trp out there. Are you going to glacier? The west entrance is spectacular. If you go here check out the "Going to the sun road".
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on August 18, 2012, 04:37:47 pm
Yes, Glacier is the plan for tomorrow. Check out my thread under Rides and Stories.

Now back to this thread, me and my Canyon Cages.

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/54C181C6-7852-42C3-B7CE-183FB1137EEF-1883-0000017988C7E7FB.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Slideways on August 20, 2012, 01:41:11 am
I was one of the first to get the Gen 1 cages (mine is an '08) and only got them on today. I admire Rhino who said his were on in an hour! For me it was the very first time removing the plastic. I bought the bike used but the first owner did no mechanical work himself, that was all donenby the local Kawasaki dealer. The plastic had been off several time before and I found minor damage where someone in a hurry said "Screw it" slapped it back together.

Can't really contibute any wise words and a picture would look like the rest. I can say with some pride that there were not screws left over. The cages look great but the best I can say for the appearance of the rear gaurds is I am glad they are easy to remove
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 20, 2012, 05:20:35 am
I was one of the first to get the Gen 1 cages (mine is an '08) and only got them on today. I admire Rhino who said his were on in an hour! For me it was the very first time removing the plastic. I bought the bike used but the first owner did no mechanical work himself, that was all donenby the local Kawasaki dealer. The plastic had been off several time before and I found minor damage where someone in a hurry said "Screw it" slapped it back together.

Can't really contibute any wise words and a picture would look like the rest. I can say with some pride that there were not screws left over. The cages look great but the best I can say for the appearance of the rear gaurds is I am glad they are easy to remove

Yeah, the rear bars are pretty ugly. I think that if you dropped your bike that they would start to look a lil better though.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on August 20, 2012, 05:25:31 am
Touch up is a lot easier.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Slideways on August 20, 2012, 09:20:08 am
Amen to how they can look better and here's to hoping I never find out.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Brian Kellett on August 20, 2012, 07:36:21 pm
Can't wait to get mine! 

Speaking of which..... any status updates on how the run of cages ordered at the end of July are coming along?   ::)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 20, 2012, 07:46:53 pm
Got mine in the mail today. They sure are built well and damn they are heavy.
Not sure when I'll have time to put them on, it may end up being a winter project. Would really like to get a center stand first also. Figure that would make it easier to work on.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 20, 2012, 08:10:30 pm
Would really like to get a center stand first also. Figure that would make it easier to work on.

Did you remove your center stand?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 21, 2012, 04:57:17 am
Got mine in the mail today. They sure are built well and damn they are heavy.
Not sure when I'll have time to put them on, it may end up being a winter project. Would really like to get a center stand first also. Figure that would make it easier to work on.

So you'll be riding around unprotected while the CCs sit in the garage?    :o
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 21, 2012, 07:30:07 am
These take an hour to put on if you take your time. Time the time.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 10:08:43 am
Did you remove your center stand?
previous owner did when he put on the Muzy 4 into 2 exhaust.


 
So you'll be riding around unprotected while the CCs sit in the garage?    :o
Yeah I know, I'll drop the bike soon.  :(

These take an hour to put on if you take your time. Time the time.

Being I have never had the body off this bike I'm thinking it will be a bit longer than that.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 21, 2012, 10:29:29 am
You do not have to pull the plastic to install the bars.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on August 21, 2012, 10:36:07 am
In fact the plastic HAS to be on the bike to install the bars.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 10:58:57 am
In fact the plastic HAS to be on the bike to install the bars.
How the hell do you get them on without pulling the lower panels?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 21, 2012, 11:17:56 am
In fact the plastic HAS to be on the bike to install the bars.

That's not true. Not for a Gen 1 anyways. I did the cut out mod so that the bars do not have to be removed in order to take the plastic off. I installed the bars with no plastic on, then reinstalled the plastic.

Seems that a lot of guys are nervous about removing the plastic. Just do it. Keep notes as to where all the fasteners go as you go along. I had a large piece of cardboard and as I remove fasteners I place them on the cardboard and make notes. I've had the plastic off a few times now and I no longer have to take notes.

While you have the plastic off, check the header nuts and your coolant. It would be a good time to change the coolant if it needs it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 11:30:31 am
Yeah I have a Gen 1 and I can't see any way I'm getting my hands in thru that vent. Was also planning to cut the top vent like I have seen here.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 21, 2012, 11:36:05 am
For a Gen 2 bike the plastic needs to be in place when you install the cage. Start on the right side of the bike. Do not loosen up the left front until after you have tightened up the right front motor mount. There have been a few cases were the engine settles and requires realigning to get the bolt holes to line back up. You will not be able to tighten the rear until you finish the left side. I istalled this with a helper standing by to support the weight of the cage while I lined everything up.

Remove rear mounting bolt and front right engine mounting bolt.
Hold cage in place and put new rear bolt inplace.
Install new front bolt and partialy thread it in. Use an extention with your ratchet to get you outside the plastics
Before tightening this up put the lower brace inplace and get the nut started on the bracket. I found it pretty simple to reach in through the top vent to do this.

snug up the bolts starting with the front engine mount and then the nut and lower fron cage bolt then go back and torque to spec. You will tighten the rear when you install the left side.

The left side is easier than the right pretty much the same process as the right side but the inside lower bracket is easier to get inplace.

Now that I have done it I could do it in less than 15 minutes.

If this gives you any trouble feel free to give me a call. My number is in my profile.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: h2oplayer on August 21, 2012, 11:37:17 am
Sorry,

I just saw your posting that this is a gen 1. My advise is pretty usless for the gen 1 sorry.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 11:47:33 am
Sorry,

I just saw your posting that this is a gen 1. My advise is pretty usless for the gen 1 sorry.

No problem man. Got your Voice Mail. It was really cool of you to call and try to help like that.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on August 21, 2012, 12:43:13 pm
Opps sorry as well. I was also only thinking gen 2.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 01:20:25 pm
I went out at break and tried to shove my hand in there, yeah not going to happen. lol

Now the question is do I work on the bike tonight and try to get these on or work on my new hunting blind? decisions decisions
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on August 21, 2012, 01:26:09 pm
I went out at break and tried to shove my hand in there, yeah not going to happen. lol

Now the question is do I work on the bike tonight and try to get these on or work on my new hunting blind? decisions decisions

When does hunting season start?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on August 21, 2012, 01:28:47 pm
For a Gen 2 bike the plastic needs to be in place when you install the cage. Start on the right side of the bike. Do not loosen up the left front until after you have tightened up the right front motor mount. There have been a few cases were the engine settles and requires realigning to get the bolt holes to line back up. You will not be able to tighten the rear until you finish the left side. I istalled this with a helper standing by to support the weight of the cage while I lined everything up.

Remove rear mounting bolt and front right engine mounting bolt.
Hold cage in place and put new rear bolt inplace.
Install new front bolt and partialy thread it in. Use an extention with your ratchet to get you outside the plastics
Before tightening this up put the lower brace inplace and get the nut started on the bracket. I found it pretty simple to reach in through the top vent to do this.

snug up the bolts starting with the front engine mount and then the nut and lower fron cage bolt then go back and torque to spec. You will tighten the rear when you install the left side.

The left side is easier than the right pretty much the same process as the right side but the inside lower bracket is easier to get inplace.

Now that I have done it I could do it in less than 15 minutes.

If this gives you any trouble feel free to give me a call. My number is in my profile.

Wish I had read this first. Also wish I had cleaned all the red gunk out before I tried threading in the new bolts. I didn't and ended up crossthreading the right motor mount. $70 tow charge and $95 to re-tap the motormounts. <sign>. Went on like clockwork after that.

FWIW - YMMV.

Cheers!

Bill
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 21, 2012, 01:36:22 pm
I went out at break and tried to shove my hand in there, yeah not going to happen. lol

Now the question is do I work on the bike tonight and try to get these on or work on my new hunting blind? decisions decisions

Do the bike first, just in case...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on August 21, 2012, 03:54:22 pm
Not so sure I would recommend  this, but it works. I was stressing for 12 miles, and it got worse with every bump.  Kootos to MCEnterprises and their well built tip over protection. 

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/1FC4574A-E878-455D-9274-926D1B4A8FE7-5446-0000057123CF4556.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/AEEA9F97-F08F-43E5-B028-6CE191DB0057-5446-000005711CB2B8AB.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/C73BFE57-0B35-4753-8C91-B85C4F849459-5446-00000571153BD3FB.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/4D4F97B6-288A-4DA2-A11E-02E79163B4B0-5446-000005710D420AC6.jpg)

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 21, 2012, 04:31:17 pm
These take an hour to put on if you take your time. Time the time.

It took me and my mechanic friend considerably longer than an hour to put them on mine.  But it would probably take considerably less once it has been done before...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 21, 2012, 04:35:05 pm
Wish I had read this first. Also wish I had cleaned all the red gunk out before I tried threading in the new bolts. I didn't and ended up crossthreading the right motor mount. $70 tow charge and $95 to re-tap the motormounts. <sign>. Went on like clockwork after that.

We had extreme difficulty getting the top bolts in/out of the engine, probably due to the threadlock, to the point we were sure we were stripping the aluminum threads in the engine.  Backed them out several times to make sure- it was just that hard with the threadlock.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 21, 2012, 04:36:26 pm
Not so sure I would recommend  this, but it works. I was stressing for 12 miles, and it got worse with every bump.  Kootos to MCEnterprises and their well built tip over protection.

I believe that McE specifically warned users NOT to use the cages as tie-down points.  Of course, my memory could be faulty.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 21, 2012, 06:07:26 pm
Well I took your advice and skipped working on the blind and installed the cages. Not to bad took me 2.5 hours from start to finished and cleaned up.
I could have done it a lot faster had I just took the glove box and top pieces of bodywork off from the start.
Don't ask me how but I got the bottoms and sides off and the cages installed without taking the pieces that you need to cut off the bike. The problem came when trying to put it back together. Just could not be done. Once I said screw it and removed those (would have done it first had I known how easy it was) and it went back together slicker then ****.

Would take a pic but the camera on my phone died and they look just like the other Silverdamnit '08s with cages.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 22, 2012, 04:34:01 am
Well I took your advice and skipped working on the blind and installed the cages. Not to bad took me 2.5 hours from start to finished and cleaned up.
I could have done it a lot faster had I just took the glove box and top pieces of bodywork off from the start.
Don't ask me how but I got the bottoms and sides off and the cages installed without taking the pieces that you need to cut off the bike. The problem came when trying to put it back together. Just could not be done. Once I said screw it and removed those (would have done it first had I known how easy it was) and it went back together slicker then ****.

Would take a pic but the camera on my phone died and they look just like the other Silverdamnit '08s with cages.

So you read the instructions and then ignored them?    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on August 22, 2012, 04:40:11 am
Instructions? There's been plenty of pictures posted.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 22, 2012, 04:44:38 am
Instructions? There's been plenty of pictures posted.

Yeah, that sheet that came with your bars.   :-X
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on August 22, 2012, 04:49:12 am
Yeah, that sheet that came with your bars.   :-X
This one?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 22, 2012, 04:56:22 am
This one?

Yep, that's the one.    :thumbs:

All you need now is some wind.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Kinetic1 on August 22, 2012, 05:01:32 am
Has anyone else noticed that the left side cage on the gen 2 sticks out farther than the right side? I noticed it when I pulled the plastics off the other day. Put them back on and sure enough the left side is about 1/4 to 1/2 an inch farther away from  the plastics on the left. I didn't actually measure, just guestimating.


Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fsr402 on August 22, 2012, 05:21:11 am
So you read the instructions and then ignored them?    ;)
Well not really. I never looked at them until after I had the body off and ready to install. That's when I read it and thought "hmm, why would I need to remove that?"  ;D
Never thought they would tell me how to take my bike apart.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Necron99 on August 22, 2012, 10:35:35 am
It took me and Dalroo less than 2 hours to put on 2 sets, and then WAY less than an hour when I helped my buddy Ralph with his.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: wally_games on August 22, 2012, 11:16:27 am
It took me and Dalroo less than 2 hours to put on 2 sets, and then WAY less than an hour when I helped my buddy Ralph with his.

 :chugbeer:
When I finally get my budget approved by my CFO, I sure know who to call for help putting them on.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on August 23, 2012, 06:19:52 am
All washed and Pleadged, so I had to take some pics and get this thread back on track!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-28jlZ9idGKM/UDYevzlozQI/AAAAAAAAAzE/gj6_Zt6WMpY/s640/P1020504.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5wKGG05TrJ4/UDYeu0iKNVI/AAAAAAAAAyw/n7a98PS5nVw/s800/P10205048.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BD9o-bdjwf0/UDYevGuJpTI/AAAAAAAAAy4/tDLgFqvplSU/s640/P1020505.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bH2KWMM08Cg/UDYevmYh10I/AAAAAAAAAzA/kdB1DcRoF8I/s640/P1020506.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 23, 2012, 05:57:00 pm
(http://www.savingwithshellie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pledge.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on August 24, 2012, 09:00:10 am
thanks for the catch  :-[      actually I only use....

(http://ellistrations.com/musiciansblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/145177_front200.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0ZrhSD1xsIXVmrWQesibQMWm1UkoCaDngOhnsTZ5xSRDt9BoRRw)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on August 24, 2012, 09:58:45 am
Lol..gotta love the Plexus...I mean Pledge
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on August 24, 2012, 03:12:31 pm
Lol..gotta love the Plexus...I mean Pledge

I just paid a fortune for a small can of Plexus to use on my shields and I swear to God it smells, looks, feels, and acts like Lemon Pledge.  I have to believe it is something different.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on August 24, 2012, 03:43:35 pm
I just paid a fortune for a small can of Plexus to use on my shields and I swear to God it smells, looks, feels, and acts like Lemon Pledge.  I have to believe it is something different.

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Caffeinated on August 24, 2012, 04:38:24 pm
I just paid a fortune for a small can of Plexus to use on my shields and I swear to God it smells, looks, feels, and acts like Lemon Pledge.  I have to believe it is something different.


Ingredient comparison....http://www.stromtrooper.com/general-v-strom-discussion/33336-plexus-vs-lemon-pledge-ingredient-comparison.html (http://www.stromtrooper.com/general-v-strom-discussion/33336-plexus-vs-lemon-pledge-ingredient-comparison.html)

Now I want to know if the Aloe Vera formula will help heal paint scratches!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Highett on December 23, 2012, 12:24:09 pm
My Cages are now on,

Based on the research I did here at the forum I decided to do the mod to the cowling.

Worked just like I expected it to, as far as fitting the cowlings goes, not much different maybe just a little bit more fiddly.

I only put them on yesterday so I am still undecided on the final position of the hwy pegs, they are easy to move around so no problems adjusting them on the fly.

Since I ride solo, I removed my rear pegs.

Photos:

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230105_zps251c3719.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230107_zps3995f45f.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230112_zps43b8a9ef.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230119_zps4eb7b4af.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230120_zps37f7435b.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230121_zps13b7d4d1.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230122_zpsd108566d.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230133_zps28b19661.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230134_zps0eb58bba.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230135_zps114a899a.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Black9cat/PC230136_zpse2c17018.jpg)

Cheers
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on December 23, 2012, 01:21:49 pm
Nice looking green HH!  8)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on December 23, 2012, 02:09:16 pm
Nice looking green HH!  8)

I was going to say the same thing.  Never seen one in person, but in pix it looks good.

I made the "cut" modification to the vent slots in the fairings, also.  But it is very difficult to get the fairings  on/off without removing the cages.  It is like a 3-dimentional puzzle from hell.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Highett on December 23, 2012, 07:00:46 pm
maxtog,

I though the same the first time I removed and refitted the cowling with out the cage but after a few times it got easier,
 
With the cages on the entry angle changes so the old way of fitting them  does not work, you also have to manipulate them a little to get the slot overt he bar of the cage.

Try loosening off the bottom skirt (grey Bit) this will give a little more room down low, sit on something low along side the bike, I used a 20 litre bucket and just slip them in, it's hard to explain but once you have it figured they go in and come out easy.

I will say that the left side is easier than the right side.

Cheers

Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on December 24, 2012, 05:37:55 am
Nice looking green HH!  8)

I love that green! 

Not so much your passanger backrest though...   :o
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: twowheeladdict on December 24, 2012, 06:54:42 am
How often are you all having to remove the fairings on the Connie?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: 556ALPHA on December 24, 2012, 07:08:49 am
I have been trying to figure out what that is behind the passenger section.  I really like the green. 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: twowheeladdict on December 24, 2012, 10:17:15 am
I have been trying to figure out what that is behind the passenger section.  I really like the green.

I thought it was either part of his stunt cage as a place to put his feet when riding wheelies, or where he puts the tow line when pulling skateboarders.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Highett on December 24, 2012, 01:50:25 pm
I love that green! 

Not so much your passanger backrest though...   :o

Its not a passenger back rest, I ride solo.

Its for my gear sack, and because I do not have much of a work shop and do not have a welder I made it out of angle and bolted it together like Mechano.

Its not flash but it does what I need it to do, Maybe next year I will have something professionally made, at the moment its not in the budget.

Cheers
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on December 25, 2012, 05:49:20 am
Its not a passenger back rest, I ride solo.

Its for my gear sack, and because I do not have much of a work shop and do not have a welder I made it out of angle and bolted it together like Mechano.

Its not flash but it does what I need it to do, Maybe next year I will have something professionally made, at the moment its not in the budget.

Cheers

As long as it works for ya. I'm sure that it looks much better with the gear sack covering it.    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on February 01, 2013, 05:38:41 pm
Well I can say for a fact the Canyon Cage does its job at 30 mph. I was leaving work today and was taking a turn at around 30 mph and was beginning to accelerate when the ass end came out from under me. The bike went down hard and fast and I instinctively pulled my right leg out before I went down putting my palms up and dragging my knuckle protectors on the asphalt while kicking the bike away from me. The bike did several 360 spins on its side and came to rest with the tires in the gutter. I do not know what the slimy crap was I hit but it smelled really bad and looked and felt like slime. It was covering most of the road way and I when I saw the goo I was already scraping my toe in the turn while I was rolling on the throttle so it was too late to do anything but ride on through. My protective gear had my body covered and all I suffered was a nice sized goose egg on the side of my shin. The Connie doesn't have a scratch on her and I am amazed the mirror came out unscathed! Ryan thanks for the cage and thank everyone involved in the making of it. I would hate to see my repair bill if I hadn't bought them. They have without a doubt just paid for themselves!

Again thank you!

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Concours_zpsdafc333c.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on February 01, 2013, 06:06:43 pm
Stuff happens fast, doesn't it? Glad you're ok.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Rhino on February 01, 2013, 06:52:45 pm
Well I can say for a fact the Canyon Cage does its job at 30 mph. I was leaving work today and was taking a turn at around 30 mph and was beginning to accelerate when the ass end came out from under me. The bike went down hard and fast and I instinctively pulled my right leg out before I went down putting my palms up and dragging my knuckle protectors on the asphalt while kicking the bike away from me. The bike did several 360 spins on its side and came to rest with the tires in the gutter. I do not know what the slimy crap was I hit but it smelled really bad and looked and felt like slime. It was covering most of the road way and I when I saw the goo I was already scraping my toe in the turn while I was rolling on the throttle so it was too late to do anything but ride on through. My protective gear had my body covered and all I suffered was a nice sized goose egg on the side of my shin. The Connie doesn't have a scratch on her and I am amazed the mirror came out unscathed! Ryan thanks for the cage and thank everyone involved in the making of it. I would hate to see my repair bill if I hadn't bought them. They have without a doubt just paid for themselves!

Again thank you!

([url]http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Concours_zpsdafc333c.jpg[/url])


Man that is awesome! I don't mean the accident of course but surviving it with minimal damage to you or the bike.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on February 01, 2013, 07:09:49 pm
Sorry to hear about you going down SW.  :'(
Glad you're alright bro and that the cages did their thing!  :thumbs: :chugbeer:
 
Do you think it was that massive potato launcher that pulled her down?  :o :-\ ;) ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on February 01, 2013, 08:55:48 pm
I do not know what the slimy crap was I hit but it smelled really bad and looked and felt like slime.

Antifreeze?
Quote
.... They have without a doubt just paid for themselves!

That is great that you and the bike are both OK!  You get to join the SBTCCC like me!  (Saved By The Canon Cages Club)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on February 01, 2013, 08:57:10 pm

Do you think it was that massive potato launcher that pulled her down?  :o :-\ ;) ;D

That line is getting old now, ZG.  You are just in awe of the greatness of the stock muffler, that's all.  Size envy....
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on February 01, 2013, 09:08:59 pm
That line is getting old now, ZG.  You are just in awe of the greatness of the stock muffler, that's all.  Size envy....

 :rotflmao: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on February 02, 2013, 06:21:52 am
Well I can say for a fact the Canyon Cage does its job at 30 mph. I was leaving work today and was taking a turn at around 30 mph and was beginning to accelerate when the ass end came out from under me. The bike went down hard and fast and I instinctively pulled my right leg out before I went down putting my palms up and dragging my knuckle protectors on the asphalt while kicking the bike away from me. The bike did several 360 spins on its side and came to rest with the tires in the gutter. I do not know what the slimy crap was I hit but it smelled really bad and looked and felt like slime. It was covering most of the road way and I when I saw the goo I was already scraping my toe in the turn while I was rolling on the throttle so it was too late to do anything but ride on through. My protective gear had my body covered and all I suffered was a nice sized goose egg on the side of my shin. The Connie doesn't have a scratch on her and I am amazed the mirror came out unscathed! Ryan thanks for the cage and thank everyone involved in the making of it. I would hate to see my repair bill if I hadn't bought them. They have without a doubt just paid for themselves!

Again thank you!

([url]http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/williamcstonejr/Concours_zpsdafc333c.jpg[/url])


Good news!!!!     :thumbs:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on February 02, 2013, 06:24:08 am

Do you think it was that massive potato launcher that pulled her down?  :o :-\ ;) ;D

 :rotflmao:

That line is getting old now, ZG.  You are just in awe of the greatness of the stock muffler, that's all.  Size envy....

Nope, that line isn't old yet. Or rather, it's only old to the folks who still have a potato launcher.   ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on February 02, 2013, 09:13:43 am
Sorry to hear about your wreck, but glad to hear the cages are good for low speed wrecks.


And Max, that line will never get old.  ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: MGvaleri on February 02, 2013, 10:54:46 am
Quote from: Conrad linkGood news!!!!     :thumbs:
[/quote

The Connie doesn't have a scratch on her and I am amazed the mirror came out unscathed.


It seems to me a fall from a standing, however your wallet thank you.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on February 02, 2013, 12:28:10 pm
Nope, that line isn't old yet.

And Max, that line will never get old.  ;D


:P
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: stoneworrior on February 02, 2013, 11:58:10 pm
I'm just happy the bike was alright, as far as the potato launcher comment, this bike serves one purpose and one purpose only. Get me to work and home on a daily basis and allow me to use the carpool lane. L.A. rush hour traffic is a mutha without a bike!  ;D
My money used to go to my Gixxer, then my Harley Springer Softail, then my CBR. Sold most of my other bikes and down to a Gixxer 1000 a Gixxer 600 and the Connie. The 1000 is being sold on Sunday and then the 600 will go up for sale, I'm getting a Street Glide to sink some money into  :D
Connie for daily driving, Street Glide for weekend cruising  :P
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Jaxter on February 03, 2013, 01:10:46 am
all of the pictures in this thread are wonderful...but somewhere along the way I missed something...where/how do I order the canyon cage guards?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on February 03, 2013, 06:45:11 am
all of the pictures in this thread are wonderful...but somewhere along the way I missed something...where/how do I order the canyon cage guards?


Contact Ryan

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8605.msg132639#msg132639 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8605.msg132639#msg132639)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: fartymarty on February 04, 2013, 10:28:22 am
You are just in awe of the greatness of the stock muffler, that's all.  Size envy....

+1 :thumbs: :goodpost:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on February 04, 2013, 12:31:59 pm
You're welcome Stone! I'm glad to hear that the cages saved your bike from certain additional damage!

all of the pictures in this thread are wonderful...but somewhere along the way I missed something...where/how do I order the canyon cage guards?

You can either send me a PM on the forums here, email me directly, or call me at the office! Whichever way is most convenient for you is fine with me! I can answer any questions you have as well as send you pricing information or additional photos.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: bongo on April 05, 2013, 05:18:44 am
Hi I`m a newbie to the forum.
 I`m interested in a set of  Canyon Cages for my 2008 GTR 1400 which has been lowered by about 2cm or 20mm.
Has anyone fitted them to a lowered GTR? Will there be enough ground clearance when she`s lent over? 
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on April 05, 2013, 05:54:11 am
Hi I`m a newbie to the forum.
 I`m interested in a set of  Canyon Cages for my 2008 GTR 1400 which has been lowered by about 2cm or 20mm.
Has anyone fitted them to a lowered GTR? Will there be enough ground clearance when she`s lent over?

Welcome!!

Mine is lowered more than 2cm (1") and when it fell over with the Canyons, it JUST BARELY TOUCHED the bottom fairing in one little spot.  I believe if it were not lowered, it would not touch at all (which is the design). Of course, yours is a 1st gen not 2nd gen, so the design is different, but the design goals of the bars was the same.

Keep in mind that when mine did touch (barely) from a non-moving tipover,  the pegs were already touching before the cages did.  So I doubt the cages will affect cornering lean at all, even when the bike is lowered.  So go for it!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 05, 2013, 05:55:28 am
You should also look here...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9386.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=9386.0)

Welcome!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: clogan on April 05, 2013, 04:23:58 pm
all of the pictures in this thread are wonderful...but somewhere along the way I missed something...where/how do I order the canyon cage guards?

If you do a Google search, you may find vendors who sell for less than the manufacturer...that's what I did.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on April 06, 2013, 06:04:12 am
Has anyone found a cover or something for the step nut on the left side of the bike? That thing needs to either be covered up or painted.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on April 06, 2013, 11:43:43 am
Rattle canned mine Satin black, just like every other nut and bolt that should be black.  :thumbs:

Edit: Since this is the Show us your Canyon Cage thread, I had to go take pictures.  :)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/Nut.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/bolt2.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/IMG_3429.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: ZG on April 06, 2013, 04:26:04 pm
([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Rails/IMG_3429.jpg[/url])

 
 
Good lookin black gasshole Gumby!  8) :thumbs:
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on April 06, 2013, 04:58:52 pm
For some reason that doesn't sound quite right.  :-\
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on April 07, 2013, 05:36:58 am

 Good lookin black gasshole Gumby!  8) :thumbs:


For some reason that doesn't sound quite right.  :-\


(http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/06/seinfeld-thetruth.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage - Price
Post by: Aussie on April 18, 2013, 09:36:47 am
Is anyone seeing any discounts on the cages ... if so can you post a link or PM me please? I think that it's time to buy/install these babies.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage - Price
Post by: maxtog on April 18, 2013, 04:39:36 pm
Is anyone seeing any discounts on the cages ... if so can you post a link or PM me please? I think that it's time to buy/install these babies.

The best time is before you drop the bike :)   (And in that regard, I lucked out for once).  Not aware of any discounts, however.  But even at "normal" price, they will pay for themselves a couple of times over the very first time the bike is pushed over.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: bkromer on April 19, 2013, 01:27:49 pm
I am seriously considering a set of these cages, but was wondering if they have to be removed  when work is done on the engine and if so, how difficult is it to remove them?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: twowheeladdict on April 22, 2013, 10:51:45 am
I am seriously considering a set of these cages, but was wondering if they have to be removed  when work is done on the engine and if so, how difficult is it to remove them?


Depends on what engine work you are performing.  You can remove all the plastics without removing the cages if you just make one tiny slit in the side fairing and that slit is hidden behind the front side fairing.  You could even put a piece of black duct tape on the back side if you think it might move at all.

I used an older version of this tool to just snip it and then I bend one part to the left while bending the other part to the right and slip it over the pipe.  Thank you Rasmith for the suggestion.
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-edge-utility-cutter/p-00937309000P?PDP_REDIRECT=false&s_tnt=39869:4:0 (http://www.sears.com/craftsman-edge-utility-cutter/p-00937309000P?PDP_REDIRECT=false&s_tnt=39869:4:0)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: aristarchus on June 10, 2015, 09:11:52 pm
Hi Gumby, I ran accross this post and I had to register for this site so I can respond.  Never, ever, ever, use the bars in the back as a tie down area.  They will break your sub frame.  I made this mistake and nearly lost the bike.  The only thing holding the rear bar, bag mount and rear foot beg is a 2" tab welded to the subframe.  The weld will break with this force that you have from the tie downs.  I replaced my subframe myself, 9 hours of labor and 800.00 from Kawasaki.  Instead, thread through the kickstand mount underneath or use the bars of the rear subframe to tie down.  I can send pictures later, I still have my broken subframe in the garage so I'll get pictures up.  I have enjoyed your pics so far.  I'm on my second connie and we share similar mods.  Cheers.

Not so sure I would recommend  this, but it works. I was stressing for 12 miles, and it got worse with every bump.  Kootos to MCEnterprises and their well built tip over protection.

([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/1FC4574A-E878-455D-9274-926D1B4A8FE7-5446-0000057123CF4556.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/AEEA9F97-F08F-43E5-B028-6CE191DB0057-5446-000005711CB2B8AB.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/C73BFE57-0B35-4753-8C91-B85C4F849459-5446-00000571153BD3FB.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/2012%20ride/4D4F97B6-288A-4DA2-A11E-02E79163B4B0-5446-000005710D420AC6.jpg[/url])
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 01, 2015, 11:36:15 pm
I am seriously considering a set of these cages, but was wondering if they have to be removed  when work is done on the engine and if so, how difficult is it to remove them?


Minor PITA, but well worth it. Mine's been down 5 times since I put them on - only lost a right mirror in the mud. ;-)

but then again, I take her places she was never intended to go...

zero damage:

(http://backoutonthehighway.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BLS8078.jpg)

oh the places she's been...

(http://backoutonthehighway.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BLS9244.jpg)

and the places she's been down...

(http://backoutonthehighway.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BLS9272.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on July 01, 2015, 11:49:53 pm
oh the places she's been...

Wow- I can't even imagine riding on such stuff!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: backoutonthehighway on July 02, 2015, 12:04:42 am
Wow- I can't even imagine riding on such stuff!

Hell, I couldn't either until I did it. And now I'm hooked.  :o
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 02, 2015, 03:43:20 am
Hell, I couldn't either until I did it. And now I'm hooked.  :o

I know where you can get a deal on a 2013 1200GS with only 300 miles on it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on August 31, 2015, 03:11:09 pm
Hi Gumby, I ran accross this post and I had to register for this site so I can respond.  Never, ever, ever, use the bars in the back as a tie down area.  They will break your sub frame.  I made this mistake and nearly lost the bike.  The only thing holding the rear bar, bag mount and rear foot beg is a 2" tab welded to the subframe.  The weld will break with this force that you have from the tie downs.  I replaced my subframe myself, 9 hours of labor and 800.00 from Kawasaki.  Instead, thread through the kickstand mount underneath or use the bars of the rear subframe to tie down.  I can send pictures later, I still have my broken subframe in the garage so I'll get pictures up.  I have enjoyed your pics so far.  I'm on my second connie and we share similar mods.  Cheers.

Good to know. The pics from above that you reference was a 30 min ride to Sandpoint, Id where I got thoroughly screwed for a back tire(DO NOT go here http://www.4seasonpowersports.com/ (http://www.4seasonpowersports.com/)), but had no problem at all with the way it was tied down. I used them as a tie down point again in my new trailer when I took it out for a maiden voyage, again no problem. (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/emoticon-0141-whew.gif) (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/emoticons/emoticon-0141-whew.gif.html)

I will definitely look for a new spot to tag the rear end down next time. I'm sure I can figure it out, but go ahead and post up pics of how you do.  :chugbeer:

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Mission%20Trailer/7C564C46-0F8B-4148-9A90-85AF1884EE22.jpg) (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/Mission%20Trailer/7C564C46-0F8B-4148-9A90-85AF1884EE22.jpg.html)

Thanks
-Tom
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: kwakrider on September 02, 2015, 11:50:01 am
I know where you can get a deal on a 2013 1200GS with only 300 miles on it.

I know of an even better deal...totally unused Canyon Cage...still in the box...on a shelf...in a garage! The said item should be for sale at a hugely discounted price real soon, now if I could just remember who that forum "member"(I won't say it Brian) is???  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on September 03, 2015, 04:45:31 am
I know of an even better deal...totally unused Canyon Cage...still in the box...on a shelf...in a garage! The said item should be for sale at a hugely discounted price real soon, now if I could just remember who that forum "member"(I won't say it Brian) is???  ;) ;D ;D

Said member might even throw in a back-up shelf to sweeten the deal!     ;)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Conrad on September 03, 2015, 04:46:21 am
Good to know. The pics from above that you reference was a 30 min ride to Sandpoint, Id where I got thoroughly screwed for a back tire(DO NOT go here [url]http://www.4seasonpowersports.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.4seasonpowersports.com/[/url])), but had no problem at all with the way it was tied down. I used them as a tie down point again in my new trailer when I took it out for a maiden voyage, again no problem. ([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/emoticon-0141-whew.gif[/url]) ([url]http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/emoticons/emoticon-0141-whew.gif.html[/url])

I will definitely look for a new spot to tag the rear end down next time. I'm sure I can figure it out, but go ahead and post up pics of how you do.  :chugbeer:

([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Mission%20Trailer/7C564C46-0F8B-4148-9A90-85AF1884EE22.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/Mission%20Trailer/7C564C46-0F8B-4148-9A90-85AF1884EE22.jpg.html[/url])

Thanks
-Tom


What size trailer is that Tom?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Gumby on September 03, 2015, 07:17:51 am
What size trailer is that Tom?

6.5' x 12'

Thread jack (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/fv-green-dunno.gif) (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/emoticons/fv-green-dunno.gif.html)

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=60052.msg469377#msg469377 (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=60052.msg469377#msg469377)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: SilverConnieRider on September 16, 2015, 11:32:31 am
I have a 2011 Connie and I have thought about getting the Canyon Cages for a while now.
I have not dropped mine yet but so many people who never thought they would drop theirs,
are now saying it's not IF but WHEN you drop yours.

I also saw that all Canyon Cages are black.  I didn't even know that they came any other way.
Then I did some more research and found out that they come in Chrome too.

Then I was on Amazon and they listed the Canyon Cages and even had an option for Chrome.
The problem was when I clicked on the Chrome listing the pictures still showed the Black versions.
I thought MAYBE it was a Chrome metal but they were still painted black?  ???

So I looked and looked and looked and didn't find but one picture of a Chrome set on a Silver Connie - at least on this forum.
I did see 1 and only 1 set on a Black Connie too.

So more searching and I finally found a set of Chrome Canyon Cages.

It appears that they must only sell one set of Chrome for every 100 sets of black
and that might be a high estimate.  Maybe it's more like 1 for every 500 sets.  ???

With more research I started to hear the horror stories about getting the motor bolts out
as they are thread locked in place and that you need to heat the bolts and or run the engine etc.
to get them warm or hot to melt the thread lock stuff so you could get them out.

But then there were others that said they come out without any trouble.

So I took a chance and went for it.   

I had no trouble removing the bolts that had thread lock on them.  The engine was stone cold too.  ;D
I have many 10mm taps BUT I didn't have a 10x1.25 tap on hand.
I tried to put the new longer bolts in place and got them started but they got harder to turn
the deeper they went.  I removed them as the instructions said they might cross thread.
There were NO signs of cross threading but I didn't know if I would be able to tighten them all the way.

So off to get the correct size tap.  Used it and all was well.

I originally removed the fairings and installed the Cages.  I had seen others post that they cut their
fairings and then they could remove them with the cages on.  I really just didn't feel comfortable doing that so I
removed them again and then reinstalled the Cages again.

Here are the results. 


I personally like them and being different isn't always a bad thing.  ;D
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Readytakephotos/CC1_zpslk3zxbsi.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Readytakephotos/media/CC1_zpslk3zxbsi.jpg.html)


(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Readytakephotos/CC2_zps8nx33rm3.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Readytakephotos/media/CC2_zps8nx33rm3.jpg.html)

They go good with the new radiator protector I recently installed too.

(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Readytakephotos/CC7_zpsdbiycf0e.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Readytakephotos/media/CC7_zpsdbiycf0e.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 16, 2015, 03:09:26 pm
I personally like them and being different isn't always a bad thing.  ;D
([url]http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Readytakephotos/CC1_zpslk3zxbsi.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Readytakephotos/media/CC1_zpslk3zxbsi.jpg.html[/url])


Looks good. What wheel chock/stand is that?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on September 16, 2015, 03:32:33 pm
it's not IF but WHEN you drop yours.

yep

Quote
I looked and looked and looked and didn't find but one picture of a Chrome set on a Silver Connie - at least on this forum.  So more searching and I finally found a set of Chrome Canyon Cages.

Yep, that would be mine

Quote
It appears that they must only sell one set of Chrome for every 100 sets of black
and that might be a high estimate.  Maybe it's more like 1 for every 500 sets.  ???

Yep.  Black is what most people want.  Also, chrome goes best with the silver bike and there is only one model year of silver- that is 2011 (which means 1 year out of 8 years of the C14).  The main problem with chrome is that it is harder to keep clean, and if it gets damaged, you can't just slap some black paint on it.


Quote
Here are the results.


Yep, looks just like the postings of mine :)  Congrats
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: SilverConnieRider on September 16, 2015, 04:03:48 pm
Looks good. What wheel chock/stand is that?

It's a Baxley Sport Chock in Red.

Most are crinkled black - I have one of those in a LA model so I bought this one in Red to go with my Red bike.

The Red one was free at the moment I was ready to take the pictures - so that's why I used it.
The Sport chock is designed to fit bikes with a 120/70 front tire, however it will fit other sizes too but works best with the 120/70.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: mikeb2411 on September 16, 2015, 04:04:27 pm
6.5' x 12'

Thread jack ([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/fv-green-dunno.gif[/url]) ([url]http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/emoticons/fv-green-dunno.gif.html[/url])

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I know this is :offtopic: but "Geez" Gumby, ride through a few states have you?? I'm jealous, nicely done :salute:! I have a few marked on my map but nothing like you! Some day I'll "grow up" and be just like you and hit most or all the states and Canada...that's my goal anyway :thumbs:

Okay, back to the topic...I want canyon's too but I'm planning on keeping my bike for another year and then move on to a new model. I'll probably do canyon's then but I do like how they look in all the pics!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: SilverConnieRider on September 16, 2015, 04:09:08 pm


Yep, that would be mine


Yep, looks just like the postings of mine :)  Congrats

So we are a rare breed.  :thumbs:  and now there are 2 Silver bikes on this forum that have the Chrome Canyon Cages.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: RBX QB on September 16, 2015, 05:03:47 pm
... but I do like how they look in all the pics!

They look pretty good when you see your bike laying on the ground, and you realize the cages took the hit instead of all the plastic crunchy bits. Luckily, I didn't drop it BEFORE the cages went on.

I was rear-ended a few weeks ago, and I'd hate to know what the repair cost would have been if the cages hadn't protected most of the bike (mirror took one for the team).
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on September 16, 2015, 06:30:15 pm
They look pretty good when you see your bike laying on the ground, and you realize the cages took the hit instead of all the plastic crunchy bits. Luckily, I didn't drop it BEFORE the cages went on.

+1 and +1
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 16, 2015, 07:26:11 pm
It's a Baxley Sport Chock in Red.

Most are crinkled black - I have one of those in a LA model so I bought this one in Red to go with my Red bike.

The Red one was free at the moment I was ready to take the pictures - so that's why I used it.
The Sport chock is designed to fit bikes with a 120/70 front tire, however it will fit other sizes too but works best with the 120/70.


Thanks, I need something for the garage.

So as not to be of topic, here's a pic of my cages.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz260/SgtMac/IMG_0020_zpsnkkpicdw.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: jscon2011 on September 26, 2015, 01:35:36 am
Thanks, I need something for the garage.

So as not to be of topic, here's a pic of my cages.

([url]http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz260/SgtMac/IMG_0020_zpsnkkpicdw.jpg[/url])


That tinted windshield and black front fender make your bike look sick
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 26, 2015, 08:06:16 am
Thanks, its all plasti-dip at the moment, trying to decide if I want to keep it that way.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on September 26, 2015, 08:25:22 am
Thanks, its all plasti-dip at the moment, trying to decide if I want to keep it that way.


If you decide not, how will you get the plasti-dip off?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on September 26, 2015, 10:36:04 am
If you decide not, how will you get the plasti-dip off?

People say it actually just peels off without damage.  Hard to believe it, but I have seen several postings attesting to it.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: mikeb2411 on September 26, 2015, 01:03:01 pm
People say it actually just peels off without damage.  Hard to believe it, but I have seen several postings attesting to it.

I've seen it in action and it does peel off! Haven't seen it used on a bike like that and don't know what the heat from the engine has done to it but it "should" peel off...theoretically!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 26, 2015, 04:25:59 pm
It peels off. I've used it on a few things (bikes/cars), never had an issue.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: KevinRLi on September 26, 2015, 06:41:43 pm
My cages...
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on September 26, 2015, 06:46:29 pm
Is that a tennis shoe sticking out of the exhaust?
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: KevinRLi on September 26, 2015, 06:48:52 pm
Is that a tennis shoe sticking out of the exhaust?

LOL.. My son was kicking the tire for some reason... Or pointing to something. IDK... Good eye!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: gPink on September 26, 2015, 07:02:36 pm
By the way, I like the tape work. Sharp.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: KevinRLi on September 26, 2015, 07:05:45 pm
Thanks but that's not tape. That is good old fashioned paint pin striping done by a guy who's been doing it since 1976. He's a fixture here on Long Island. He's always at the Oak Beach parking lot which is a gathering spot for hot rods and bikes on the weekends. Does some amazing work. Throw him a plug while thinking of it for anyone around Long Island. Doesn't have a web site just this.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: Sgt Mac on September 26, 2015, 07:55:34 pm
Very nice. I like the way they extend from the fins onto the front lower fairing.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on September 26, 2015, 10:05:47 pm
LOL.. My son was kicking the tire for some reason... Or pointing to something. IDK... Good eye!

You are also missing the rear bars!  No bag or muffler protection!
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: KevinRLi on September 26, 2015, 10:08:00 pm
You are also missing the rear bars!  No bag or muffler protection!

Yes sir. I ride without the side bags 99% of the time. Looks weirdness with bars and no bags. HA! This is my daily commuter. All I need is my tail bag for my lunch and a few just in case tools and I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Show us your Canyon Cage
Post by: maxtog on September 27, 2015, 05:46:15 am
Yes sir. I ride without the side bags 99% of the time. Looks weirdness with bars and no bags. HA! This is my daily commuter. All I need is my tail bag for my lunch and a few just in case tools and I'm good to go.

The rear bars look fine with the bags, but with the bags off, they look horrible.  I never take my bags off, though.  Still, they also protect the muffler and drive arm.