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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Bobby Mc on January 28, 2019, 12:46:12 pm

Title: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: Bobby Mc on January 28, 2019, 12:46:12 pm
Hey i just purchased a really clean 2010 with just 12,000 miles. I got it on the center stand and im woundering how much resistance the rear tire should have to spin. My other bikes are chain and i understand the shaft drive will have more, but although i can't tell you the exact inch lbs of force it takes to spin it, but there is a little more than i expected. It wont just "spin" with a little tug,  but it does turn smooth with no noise or roughness. Smooth, just pretty firm. Does this sound normal ? Is there any guide / spec for any preload or anything ?
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: VirginiaJim on January 29, 2019, 10:25:57 am
It's not going to free wheel as such but to be sure you may want to either pry the rear pads away from the rotor or just take off the caliper and check it then.  With the gear box in neutral it should spin freely.
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: jimmymac on January 29, 2019, 11:35:56 am
Have you tried the front yet?
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: Bobby Mc on January 31, 2019, 06:33:52 am
Good idea to check the caliper, I will do that. I'm working my way to the back with my normal practically tear down of any used bike I buy to thoroughly deep clean and assess. The front wheel turns freely. I bet its just normal, I'm just not used to a shaft. She far thoug Love the bike. But boy is that air filters pain to get to !!
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: Texas Concours14 on January 31, 2019, 07:49:23 am
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But boy is that air filters pain to get to !!

True enough. But just wait until you adjust the valves!
Welcome to the site.
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: jimmymac on January 31, 2019, 08:04:38 am
It's probably normal.  8)
The bodywork gets easier with practice. The air filter seems to clog soon around here. Bugs and all... I use a K&N, and have only had to buy one filter. I'm pleased.
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: Bobby Mc on January 31, 2019, 09:54:32 am
It's going to dealer for valves. I'm not even going to attemp that. I usually put a K&N filter in everything right off the bat. But for now I put a Highflow Filtro one in because it's got a Two Brothers exhaust on it and apparently no Power Comander or anything ( no sticker on the ECM as I think most re-flash'ers usually do ). So since pre-oxygen sensor model I was a little afraid of putting in in a little of a lean mixture. Probably wouldn't be too extreme but soon I will be doing the reflash and then I will have them do it for it with the muffler and K&N and then I will go K&N. But with the front inlet scoops which always gets a in more debris, ( I had two Bee's) and the filter not being at all that big ( my VFR800's filter is twice the size ) It would be nice for it to be easer to get to. But I understand a little as it seems the frame was designed with the KZ1400 ( or is it ZX1400 I forgot exactly ) sportbike ..and with scoops they just had to probably do what they could making th Concours around that frame. But that really don't explain the kinda small filter.
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on February 01, 2019, 03:39:15 pm
the filter is actually sized well for this engines needs, and unless you ride in extremely dusty conditions, a "normal" (a I have seen during replacement) interval, coincides with the valve adjust intervals well..
also, the filter you chose, is a good filter, and I personally would continue using that exact same one, it's cost effective, compared to OEM, and works.
I've used K&N in all my bikes, but I won't on this one, even tho I know how to "correctly" oil them all... the K&N for the zx/zg 1400's, comes pre-oiled... o never add oil when it' "new".. you will have issues, and a messy air box...
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: maxtog on February 01, 2019, 08:33:20 pm
the filter you chose, is a good filter, and I personally would continue using that exact same one, it's cost effective, compared to OEM, and works.

https://www.amazon.com/Hiflofiltro-HFA2916-Premium-Replacement-Filter/dp/B005DUM9MO (https://www.amazon.com/Hiflofiltro-HFA2916-Premium-Replacement-Filter/dp/B005DUM9MO)

This one?
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: Bobby Mc on February 04, 2019, 09:51:36 am
Yea that's the one I got. I have put that brand filters in other bikes with seemingly good results.
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: maxtog on February 04, 2019, 03:04:46 pm
Yea that's the one I got. I have put that brand filters in other bikes with seemingly good results.

Thanks, I added to my list of things to buy when I EVER get around to having a first major service on the bike (valves, cam sensor O ring, coolant flush, air filter, etc).  At least I finally replaced the hydraulic fluids a few months ago...
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 05, 2019, 06:13:59 pm
Sheesh...
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: BadgerApaches on February 21, 2019, 09:51:26 am
As others noted, pull the rear caliper, pads. Clean up around the pistons so they can clear the disc when off the brake. Bleed.

There is a complete vid on YouTube of shaft/ spline R&R, fresh grease etc....
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: kzz1king on February 21, 2019, 10:20:53 am
Thanks, I added to my list of things to buy when I EVER get around to having a first major service on the bike (valves, cam sensor O ring, coolant flush, air filter, etc).  At least I finally replaced the hydraulic fluids a few months ago...

How do you sleep at night Max?
Title: Re: Rear tire turning resistance
Post by: maxtog on February 21, 2019, 03:34:32 pm
How do you sleep at night Max?

Who knows.  I guess I am taking my life for granted every time I get on that thing.