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Offline bowtie39

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2017, 10:50:40 pm »
Good to see you hanging around Dan!  That's all I have to add to this conversation so carry on. 
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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2017, 02:33:46 pm »
Yeah they have had (or are having?) their problems certainly. And some of them were (are?) disastrous, such as that cute final drive flame- out failure that BMW balked at covering, addressing in any way or even 'fessing up about. But I was really just discussing the bike as it pertains to actually riding and behavior..... at least when it behaves itself. :-)

For those reasons and other, I am pretty much confined to Japanese bikes, and always have been. At this time, I think the only other brand (non- Japanese) I would even consider might be a KTM but that is not very likely either.

The person who owned the BMW that I rode had a bunch of BMW's and also more than a couple of incidents with their 'legendary reliability'. One time, he was riding a brand new K1200GT home when it just died..... ON THE HIGHWAY (!!) in Boston. He left it on the side of the road, made other arrangements to go home rather than back to the dealer, and then called them up an told them where they could find 'their' bike, assuming it was still there and they even wanted it back.  :rotflmao:  That actually worked out fine but then again, he bought a lot of bikes from them and so was well outside the range of the dealer's usual customer.

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I'll lend another perspective here, and I'm certainly not discounting anyone's experiences. However, 12 years of owning several BMW's and the only problem I ever had was a fuel sensing strip on the instrument cluster failed on my RT and was replaced N/C. No final drive issues, nothing. All the guys I ride with are BMW owners, and they are fine as well. A couple being pretty high mileage bikes.

Anyway, as I said not challenging or discounting, but thought I'd go on record with the positive experience I had owning BMW's.       
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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #77 on: December 28, 2017, 03:30:26 pm »
Good to see you hanging around Dan!  That's all I have to add to this conversation so carry on.

Yeah, I cruise by here once a week or so. Almost never post unless it is on a subject that I can contribute to (such as this one). I've been without a Kawasaki since August of 2014 when I sold the ZGRX1200. Been riding my 2014 Yamaha FJR since I bought it in November of 2013.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2018, 12:14:15 am »
While I don't intend on replacing my 2012, I did e-mail Kawasaki suggesting they continue the shaft drive and midsize touring bike feel of the C14 on the next iteration. I did also ask for cruise control. Last year I rode a few FJRs with this and while I'm not crazy about it, I can see why folks might want that feature, especially on a bike as buzzy as that FJR. (Not that one can ever use cruise control anywhere for long with the nitwits on California's roads...)

I sold 7 C14s at the dealership I worked at in 2017. 5 new, 2 used. Every customer loved them. All were converts from other brands, some on bigger bikes and others trading up from the 1000cc class. When I worked in the service department, we maintained California Highway Patrol C14s as well as regular civilian bikes and never had any failures come in. One CHP bike had just over 120k miles and Kawasaki recommended the cam chain be replaced. So we did. Still had the original shims though.

We never had any leaking final drive seals, though almost every post-March 2011 C14 that came in did have the leaking cam position sensor problem. No other faults or issues reported. We serviced a total of probably 30 different C14s and I'd consider that track record exemplary. The service manager used to joke that they only ever came in to take an oil break and then go back out for more.

I put 55k on my 2000, and 64k on my 2012 so far. If sport touring is going away as a segment, it would be really nice to at least have a replacement for my KLR but with a driveshaft next.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2018, 03:34:57 pm »
If I traded in my C14 (I'm on my second C14) - with ONLY 18,000 miles on the ODO -- and a constant love of the bike -- for a new H2 SX SE, I would have less comfort, more headaches, no constant smile on my face, AND SMALLER SIDE BAGS, and a $311 / mo. payment for 60 months. The way I see it their sales will still go down. Kawi's strategy for the KLR 650 has been good hasn't it? let the prices climb elsewhere and Kawi should stick to us 'minimalists' who just love real motorcycles.  That's my two cents, but heck, what do I know, as I've been hacked ever since they got rid of the storage on top of the tank AND CRAMMED ABS down my throat!!  :rotflmao:

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2018, 05:11:55 pm »
You left out crazy high insurance premiums.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2018, 03:03:00 pm »
So, I just went and did a quick google to get more info about the H2 SX.

I love the engine. I hate the rest of it.

I love my '08 C14, but my only concern is a wish that it had better mpg. If they were to put that new supercharged 1000 into the C14 frame, I would consider that to be the perfect bike.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #82 on: May 19, 2018, 04:08:53 pm »
H2 SX was never meant to be anything like a C14. Meant as a Sport Touring ZX14R replacement. LOTS of ZX-14(R) are bagged out, bar risered, taller windscreened bike. Basically an inline 4 VFR with 100 more hp.

If you want a C14 that gets better mileage you're best off with a 12+ C14, with it's ECO thingy and a proper flash. I've read mid 40s are quite common. I'm cool with 39-43mpg on my 08.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #83 on: May 19, 2018, 05:58:53 pm »
My ‘11 has a flash but the thing that really help mpg was the mccruise. That , when used with eco, gives me an easy 50+ mpg. I’ll take her on a five day trip in July and will report back on mpg.

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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #84 on: May 20, 2018, 07:01:02 am »


If you want a C14 that gets better mileage you're best off with a 12+ C14, with it's ECO thingy and a proper flash. I've read mid 40s are quite common. I'm cool with 39-43mpg on my 08.

I would agree with this. My 08 was the same as yours. My 13 with Steve's flash is mid to upper 40s with about 30 to 50 extra miles a tank running mid grade instead of premium on these flat Indiana roads depending on my twitchy wrist. When I make it down to my wife's homeland in Southeast Ohio I run premium and enjoy the curves, hills and wrist action which changes my gas consumption profile.
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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #85 on: May 21, 2018, 06:03:11 pm »
Love Kawasakis and my C14. If the H2SX is around in 3-4 years when I decide to upgrade, it could easily fill the role of my C14 for how I utilize the bike...something slightly more comfy than a sportbike but with enough thrust to be engaging.

...if it’s insurable. 


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Re: The Future of th C14
« Reply #86 on: May 21, 2018, 06:10:10 pm »
Love Kawasakis and my C14. If the H2SX is around in 3-4 years when I decide to upgrade, it could easily fill the role of my C14 for how I utilize the bike...something slightly more comfy than a sportbike but with enough thrust to be engaging.

...if it’s insurable.

You just described the Concours perfectly... at least in my opinion anyway.

...ok, a lot more comfortable than a sport bike, but otherwise perfect!
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