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Offline SmokinRZ

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2018, 05:44:16 pm »
Update:

I took the stove key and FOB in and the locksmith at first said he didn't have the blank and that I would have to get it from Kawasaki and he would cut it.  I explained that there were no specific blanks for this application and just wanted a gas cap key.  He was bale to use the FOB key to cut me an extra key that works like a champ. 

Then I explained about wanting a spare passive FOB made from a Ford blank.  He tested my FOB and said he could do it but it was going to be $80, so I held off that.  Is that the going rate for a smart key?   
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2018, 06:27:41 pm »
Then I explained about wanting a spare passive FOB made from a Ford blank.  He tested my FOB and  said he could do it but it was going to be $80, so I held off that.  Is that the going rate for a smart key?


That seems a bit high to me, based on my poor memory of what others have said they paid.  $50 seems more reasonable...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18252.msg248160#msg248160
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18252.msg258040#msg258040

You can buy a genuine Kawasaki passive fob for around $35 online, but then you have to bring it and the bike to a dealer and pay $$$$ to have it added to the ECU.  So you do have to factor the TOTAL cost of the key.  $80 is actually not crazy when you figure a dealer is likely to charge something like $35 or more for the special-order fob + another $50 to program it + you still have to go somewhere to have the physical key cut, which is another $10 or something.

The active fob- well, that is a LOT more.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2018, 03:33:48 pm »
Smokin' is not correct again, in his statement you can't get key blanks... should have asked before posting a fallacy.. sorry.

I just went thru this for someone wanting a new stove knob cut, so here, all the keys, and differences, and KAW p/n's for replacement blanks below, and attached picture...

27008   27008-0048   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A
27008A   27008-0049   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B

27008B   27008-0050   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A,MAIN SWITCH
27008C   27008-0051   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B,MAIN SWITCH

27008D   27008-0062   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#A,SPARE FOB
27008E   27008-0063   KEY-LOCK,BLANK,#B,SPARE FOB


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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 10:26:07 pm »
Smokin' is not correct again, in his statement you can't get key blanks... should have asked before posting a fallacy.. sorry.

I stand corrected, I have an 08 that came with two active FOBS and the two mini keys contained in them.  I didn't think about later models that come with a passive FOB.       

My real point was, the locksmith was ready to send me on my way before I could convince him there was an aftermarket blank that would work.

Thanks for providing the part numbers MOB, it's good to know the FOB key blanks are available.           

 

   
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2018, 08:49:26 pm »
Gee I've been using the ignition all these years,  what's the problem :o
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2018, 04:41:17 am »
Gee I've been using the ignition all these years,  what's the problem :o


Every time I see these posts I wonder the same thing:
1. Pull up to the pump
2. Turn the ignition switch to the right instead of the left
3. Without taking your hand off the key, pull it out


It takes more effort to fish a key out of a pocket or the glovebox.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2018, 07:53:57 am »
It comes out??!!


Every time I see these posts I wonder the same thing:
1. Pull up to the pump
2. Turn the ignition switch to the right instead of the left
3. Without taking your hand off the key, pull it out


It takes more effort to fish a key out of a pocket or the glovebox.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2018, 08:54:56 am »

Every time I see these posts I wonder the same thing:
1. Pull up to the pump
2. Turn the ignition switch to the right instead of the left
3. Without taking your hand off the key, pull it out


It takes more effort to fish a key out of a pocket or the glovebox.

This. At least as long as the gas cap lock turns freely.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2018, 08:58:55 am »
Wait, so you can open the gas cap without the fob key? The stove knob has a key built in!?
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2018, 10:42:54 am »
This. At least as long as the gas cap lock turns freely.

I guess your wife never gave you the lubrication talk ;)
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2018, 12:09:41 pm »
Cuda, how did you manage to get a picture of Yoda's mother???    :o  ;D

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2018, 03:04:35 pm »
This. At least as long as the gas cap lock turns freely.

^  That, exactly.  I usually use the "main" key (stove knob) to open the gas tank.... except when the gas cap starts getting impossible and needs cleaning and lubrication for the one millionth time.  I don't want to damage that knob.
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2018, 03:05:10 pm »
Wait, so you can open the gas cap without the fob key? The stove knob has a key built in!?

You are joking, right?
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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2018, 04:25:12 pm »

Every time I see these posts I wonder the same thing:
1. Pull up to the pump
2. Turn the ignition switch to the right instead of the left
3. Without taking your hand off the key, pull it out


It takes more effort to fish a key out of a pocket or the glovebox.

seeing as I never tempt fate, and hate the thought of trying to find a "K-Rock", my stove knob has only been removed 3 times in 10 years... and only to 'test it'.

that stove knob is an expensive key, ($20+ and add shipping and time to get it) and finding a place that can actually cut a new blank one, without gooching it up first try, and repeating the order process again, is not in the cards...
By all rights, they are pretty damned fragile, I've seen quite a few people with stripped wratchet internals on them (from someone attempting to turn it without activating it), rendering them inoperative temporarily, until you drill a hole in the plastic part, and fill it with glue/JB Weld. Rotating said key to the 'remove' position becomes a tricky thing when that happens...

I also find it a bit stupid on Kaw's part, to make the key removable ONLY when turned to the right... when the LOCK position is to the left, and if you are actuating the lock, you really want to remove that key anyways, because some idiot, the same person that is the reason you are locking the forks for, will attempt to turn that key... and wreck the guts inside. then you are totally gooched...

as for the "expended effort" thing...
it takes more effort to climb off the bike, remove my helmet and gloves, un-clip my tank bag and move it, figure/decide which fuel grade I feel like getting raped over, fishing around in my Stich inner pocket for my wallet, and credit card, getting the pump going, and reversing all of those motions when finished....before I reset my trip odometer to zero again,  than it does for me to pop the extra fob out of my outer jacket pocket and remove the key and open and close the tank....

creature of habit so to speak, after doing this for 10 years, I don't break the tradition, and don't loose my FOB... I also refuse to be interrupted by people trying to talk to me at a gas pump.... that's where FOBS get misplaced.... ::) ;)

Of course, some folks don't have tank bags.
Don't press down on the tank lid, while turning the key.
Don't get off bike to fuel up.
don't remove helmet, or gloves.
Struggle to reach the nozzle and credit card slot from seated on a bike..
Find it a perfect time to make a cell phone call, or text some one.
and generally don't care if they by some happenstance spill fuel, all over themselves or their gloves.  or have to 'emergency run away' from the bike during the process...
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amazingly, there are gas stations still operating here in the U.S.A., where you have to get off the bike, manually actuate the pump, and then WALK IN to pay the person at the counter... OMG... that is totally redunculous.... :yikes:

ride safe, and don't take this as seriously, most of it is just injecting humor.

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Re: Gas Cap Key
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2018, 04:53:30 pm »
I thought all of it was pretty funny :rotflmao:
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