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Offline wtaylorc14

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Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« on: February 05, 2019, 07:24:09 am »
Hi-
I have a 3 week old Michelin on the back of my 14 and I ride about 56 miles each way to work.  This morning, had to cancel work as there was a sheetrock screw about 1 inch from the tire edge on my new tire.  Can I plug this?  I cannot get a new tire right now.  I've plugged tires right in the center and had no issue.  Never close to the edge.  Possible?
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2019, 11:24:30 am »
As long as it’s still in the tread, I don’t see why not.  Of course, the best and safest repair would be to patch it.  I’ve had new tires that picked up a nail the same day.  I’ve operated it with a plug for almost the life of the tire with no problems. 

Also, you didn’t say whether it’s the front or rear tire.  If it’s the front, I wouldn’t plug it.  I’d patch it or replace it.  Though it’s unlikely, you wouldn’t want that front spitting out a plug at freeway speeds.  If it’s on the rear, you have more air, which means more time, and better control if you should lose pressure. 

Also, regardless of the type of repair you do, I would always have the air pressures displayed on the dash when riding so you can keep better track of any pressure loss. 
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2019, 12:51:02 pm »
You’ll have to replace. Just like car tires , you can’t repair close to sidewall. Call up Michelin and ask them, they tell whether you can patch it. And when I say patch, that’s patch. Unless things have changed, I know of no tire company that approves of plugs. I keep a plug kit in my bike in case I get a flat in BFE, but that’s it .

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2019, 01:47:29 pm »
New tire? I'd try a plug. As long as the screw didn't enter at some crazy angle.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2019, 02:37:25 pm »
Any pics of the culprit? How close to the sidewall? Definitely try to plug it and keep the TPMS screen view-able when riding. Like others have mentioned, if its the rear you're better off trying to plug it. Otherwise with the front it's not a good thing when turning. Going to have to suck it up and get a new tire soon.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2019, 03:40:26 pm »
Any pics of the culprit? How close to the sidewall? Definitely try to plug it and keep the TPMS screen view-able when riding. Like others have mentioned, if its the rear you're better off trying to plug it. Otherwise with the front it's not a good thing when turning. Going to have to suck it up and get a new tire soon.
He did say on the back of his 14 so he must mean the rear tire.  As soon as I was reading his post, I was hoping for a picture, too.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2019, 04:46:41 pm »
Yep, we like pictures :)

If the screw didn't damage any cords, and is not in the sidewall, a patch (which is done from the INSIDE the tire- requires un/remounting) should be perfectly fine.  A plug might be fine too- many have posted for years about a good plug job lasting the life of the tire.  But many don't consider it permanent, like a patch, or as safe as a patch.

Me- I would always worry a plug would fail.  Perhaps it is just my pessimistic outlook on such things.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2019, 06:12:27 pm »
You take a chance with a puncture close to the edge.  One of those sticky ropes will probably hold but I don't think an inside patch will.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2019, 05:07:41 am »
If I were going to try to repair it, I would go with something like this.  Best of both worlds. YMMV
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2019, 07:51:43 am »
That's what I used in the good ole days in the 70's on car tires.  Never had a call back.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2019, 08:42:26 am »
I think I will get some to carry with me. Sounds like they may come in handy if a plug wont work and a tire cant be had.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 07:14:38 pm »
I'm going to be 'that guy'...I'm almost 45 and have been plugging tires since I was a teenager. Not once have I ever had a plug fail or had a tire issue related to a plug install.  I have also had nail/screws in close proximity to the sidewall, but as has been said, if it's in the tread, go for it. Just like anything else in life, with plugs, you need to use common sense and prep/install properly. My last PR4GT rear had nearly 15k miles on it and 5 plugs. Yep, 5. Two of which were there since the first month it was installed. A job I just recently left was in close proximity to a recycle scrap yard. It was very common to see people pulled over with flat tires within a mile or so of that place.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 10:07:09 pm »
I'm going to be 'that guy'...I'm almost 45 and have been plugging tires since I was a teenager. Not once have I ever had a plug fail or had a tire issue related to a plug install.  I have also had nail/screws in close proximity to the sidewall, but as has been said, if it's in the tread, go for it. Just like anything else in life, with plugs, you need to use common sense and prep/install properly. My last PR4GT rear had nearly 15k miles on it and 5 plugs. Yep, 5. Two of which were there since the first month it was installed. A job I just recently left was in close proximity to a recycle scrap yard. It was very common to see people pulled over with flat tires within a mile or so of that place.
Five?  Wow!  I’ve never gone with more than two.  I have had one come out, but that was a pretty big hole, not something like a screw.  (I think there are a few easy boys in that response).
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2019, 06:57:04 am »
5 beats me.  I had three plugs in my rear magnetic Indian tire.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2019, 04:07:27 pm »
I've got an old C10 rim and "bald"tire mounted, in my garage, that I used for a "practice" tire, so people could be shown correct procedure for "plugging" with the rubber coated "rope worm" plugs, and also whatever "plugger" they carried..
all of the "punctures" I created in that tire, were made with a cordless drill, and a 1/8" bit, so they were actually "holes" not "nail/screw Punctures"... I went thru 2 dozen "rope/plugs", a half can of "monkey grip tire cement", and also had a half dozen other "plugs" like the pre-glued mini ropes/with tips, and the "stop-n-go" mushroom ones installed.. the only ones that "leaked" were those latter 2 styles, and when replaced (easily pulled right out) with gummy ropes and goobered with glue, they are still holding air... and that demo was in 2007....

granted, I never "ran that tire", but I'm sure when I do pull it off the rim, I won't be able to force ably pull any of those out from inside the carcass... which I attempt on every plugged tire I have ever had, when I end up wearing it out...never could pull one out.

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