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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 08:25:27 am »
Using a plug can cause damage that can’t be seen. Just because you can’t see the damage doesn’t mean it’s not there.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 02:57:20 pm »
 :rotflmao: :popcorn: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

I trust a gummy-rubber impregnated rope plug I install, using proper technique, and correctly coated with bonding glue, much more than anything a Smarmy-ambulance-chasing-internet-advertising-ATTORNEY can whip up to get "customers"....

but that's just me... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :stirpot:

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 06:08:12 pm »
I don't need no stinkin bonding glue...  Real men do it with just the gummy rope.


Seriously, I've never coated it with glue and they've all held admirably.  They also keep away pink elephants.  Never seen one while using the gummy ropes and no glue.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 09:41:39 am »
Well now that we know who the real sticky rope men are....I've got a question for you both (anybody really)..
...in your vast experience have you noticed any difference in 1) installation ease? 2) sealing ability? 3) longevity of repair?
..between the brown gummy/sticky ropes and the black gummy/sticky ropes?

Don't really care about pink elephants as I have one of those little whistle thingies on my bike designed for deer repelling, doesn't work
on deer but it's excellent for keeping pink elephants away, they are all outta sight before I even come around the corner.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 10:50:24 am »
Sorry- been super busy due to falling behind the day I missed work due to the tire.  I did the old sticky rope and rubber cement.  Holding fine, knock on wood.  No leak and holding pressure at 40 psi cold.  Just gonna monitor it.  It was a sheetrock screw that went in about 1 1/2" from the edge and went in at a slight angle.  Thanks for the posts. 
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 02:02:55 pm »
What is the optimal drill bit diameter for there sticky things? ;)
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 04:29:01 pm »
I don't need no stinkin bonding glue...  Real men do it with just the gummy rope.


Seriously, I've never coated it with glue and they've all held admirably.  They also keep away pink elephants.  Never seen one while using the gummy ropes and no glue.

I always found a little lube aided insertion in small holes where excess reaming might be counter productive.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 05:23:52 pm »
all the worms are typical, brown, black, red, (sold under "monkey grip/Slime/other" generic company kits) and they all are coated in a compatible rubber, which does completely melt and bond them all, to the tire rubber, when the cement is applied LIBERALLY.. and I mean "slathered" on the rope...

my normal progression, is to first, attach my air pump, and begin airing up the flattened tire while I prepare the rope plug, with all the stuff sitting there on the ground on a rag... I fully coat the "rasp" with glue, and insert it, and push/pull 2 or 3 times, then do not withdraw it, while it's goobered with glue, it is sealing...then I squirt the cement on the worm, goober it up good, if it' a small nail hole (like a brad/or 8 penny nail) I make sure the "excess" inside the tire is "short", like 1/2" long, as a doubled up rope (bent in the middle) is a bit excessive for a "small" hole, or even a normal drywall screw... then I pull the rasp out, jam the plugger tool and plug in, twist and withdraw the tool.... it's sealed baby...
if the hole is larger, like a 16 penny spike, or something about 1/8' diameter(that pierced the tire), I'll do the doubled over full worm, with both ends ending up outside the tire tread..

like I noted, I ran a 1/8" drill bit into the tet tire, so a lot of rubber was actually removed, not just displaced like in a "puncture" scenario.

I've installed plugs in various car tires, at work and on the road for people, that jammed a dry plug in, and expected it to work... all I could say to them ALL, was "can't you read directions on the kit?????"
can't fix those people... they made velcro tennis shoes especially for them... 
once you open the tube of glue, might a well toss it out on your way home, when you buy replacement plugs and a fresh tube of glue, and never open them till needed.. I buy Monkey Grip tire cement in 6 oz cans, and keep them sealed.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2019, 08:03:18 am »
I've found two sizes of the sticky rope and I prefer the smaller diameter for fixing normal punctures in any tire.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2019, 10:29:25 am »
I did not know that. I get whatever size Walmart has and struggle to get them in car tires sometimes. I often take a drill and open the hole up a little. I will try some of the methods MOB listed unless I am fortunate.
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I've found two sizes of the sticky rope and I prefer the smaller diameter for fixing normal punctures in any tire.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2019, 06:17:37 pm »
all the worms are typical, brown, black, red, (sold under "monkey grip/Slime/other" generic company kits) and they all are coated in a compatible rubber, which does completely melt and bond them all, to the tire rubber, when the cement is applied LIBERALLY.. and I mean "slathered" on the rope...

Thanks for the answer.

....... that jammed a dry plug in, and expected it to work... all I could say to them ALL, was "can't you read directions on the kit?????"
can't fix those people... they made velcro tennis shoes especially for them... 

Well MOB, in defense of those poor velcro shoe wearin' folks, I have seen plenty of plug kits sold without the glue and many even without a reamer/rasp, so there is that. I do agree with you though about the use of glue. I wish I was strong enough to get the plug in with just one quick out and in plunge with the rasp out and the plug in, but it usually involves some escaping air and escaping air flung flying glue. I must be getting enough in there however, because they all seem to hold air and last.

I've found two sizes of the sticky rope and I prefer the smaller diameter for fixing normal punctures in any tire.

I've never seen two sizes, of course I've never looked for the plugs at a truck stop, I imagine they'd have some larger ones available?
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I always found a little lube aided insertion in small holes where excess reaming might be counter productive.

Pinkie, I often think that some of your best efforts just sail overhead and don't get acknowledged.... Or....are they so low in the gutter that folks just step over 'em and ignore you?   :rotflmao:

 

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2019, 05:01:43 pm »
 ;D I get the same reaction at home.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2019, 07:22:06 am »
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2019, 09:55:32 pm »
Thanks for the answer.

Well MOB, in defense of those poor velcro shoe wearin' folks, I have seen plenty of plug kits sold without the glue and many even without a reamer/rasp, so there is that. I do agree with you though about the use of glue. I wish I was strong enough to get the plug in with just one quick out and in plunge with the rasp out and the plug in, but it usually involves some escaping air and escaping air flung flying glue. I must be getting enough in there however, because they all seem to hold air and last.
 
I've never seen two sizes, of course I've never looked for the plugs at a truck stop, I imagine they'd have some larger ones available?
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Pinkie, I often think that some of your best efforts just sail overhead and don't get acknowledged.... Or....are they so low in the gutter that folks just step over 'em and ignore you?   :rotflmao:

in defense of the "kit" you note, without glue, reamer/rasp/insert er... those are just PLUGS... they sell them seperatly... because people that use them, just want plug's and glue... they have the tools.. why add on another $5 when plugs just cost $2.50.. duh.

a for "small hole" plugs... I've simply laid the plug on the ground(on a rag), and stuck my pocket knife in the middle of the long rope, and slit it lengthwise...between the strands.. viola... skinny rope gummy plug.. goober it, and install it.. done...


if people have not used them, or used them incorrectly, I can't change their minds.. but if you are riding with me, and have a puncture, I'll let you decide if I fix it and we are riding again in 10 minutes... or do I say "adios,Muchacha.. I'll call a tow for you, next town I stop in,,"

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2019, 06:26:52 am »
if people have not used them, or used them incorrectly, I can't change their minds

I carry a full kit with me on the bike, it is in the main bag.  It is really, really old and falling apart (the cardboard/bubble thing).  Looked at it yesterday- a reamer, an inserter, 5 ropes, and glue.  Can't read the directions anymore (from wear).  The sealed glue tube is still soft.
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