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Offline jamiemac

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How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« on: March 30, 2019, 03:37:35 pm »
I still don't have a lot of saddle time on the Wing yet, because Indiana weather, but I've made some observations on some similarities and differences between the two scoots. Now It's really comparing apples and oranges because they serve two different purposes, but both machines do one thing equally well. My Connie had a CeeBailey windshield on it when I got it so this could be considered an unfair judgment, but I'd say wind protection is pretty similar on both bikes. The engine sound was a little more growly on the Connie, but wind noise seemed pretty equal.

Stability. There;s a slight edge in stability on the highway to the Wing, which I assume is the larger frt wheel, and extra 120 pounds. Not by much though.

Handling. Not even close. The Connie is much more capable of aggressive cornering. Better tires. Stiffer springs, and more aggressive riding position. However, the wing is truly amazing. The 840 pound bike handles really good. Much better than the previous generation Wing.

Ride smoothness. Oh, man. I guess we all knew this one. This new frt suspension on the wing is a marvel of engineering. Most road imperfections just aren't felt. Only when a bump exceeds the travel of the shock will you notice.

Here's a weird one. Fuel mileage goes to the Wing. Not really broken in yet and getting 51 MPG on back roads and below 60 MPH. On the highway, it's dropping to 44. I was getting 41 on a good day with the Connie.

Transmission. No way to really compare them as the new Wing is a dual clutch Transmission. Shifts are instantaneous in both manual and auto mode. However, I still believe the tranny on My Connie was the smoothest shifing one of any bike I've ever owned. Loved that thing.

Horsepower/acceleration. Hahaha! Yeah. The Wing is respectable, and is said to run in the low twelves, but the Connie would absolutely destroy it without going over 7K RPM.
With the Wing in sport mode, it does give the feeling of brisk acceleration. It's a fun machine, and has over 100 pound ft of torque just off idle.

Overall, I'm having a blast! I'll put up more observations as I think of them.
2008 C14, Area-P carbon fiber, PCV, Rostra Cruise, LAAM leather seat, Optilux 1500 & MondoMoto MM10 lights, Cee Bailey windshield, BMC air filter, Warm & Safe dual dash mounted heat troller.

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2019, 04:19:38 am »
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The best substitute for brains is .............what?

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 04:50:52 pm »
I left a lot of stuff out of the comparison such as, heated grips, seat heat, and cruise because my Connie, which I paid a little over 8K for 10 years ago, didn't have any of that when I bought it. Anyways, it's not a fair comparison for a bike I paid 3 times as much for.

The Connie's stock seat was a torture device. Really, I always felt mama Kaw should be a little ashamed of how awful the seat was. Plenty of folks feel the same about the seat on the new generation Goldwing. I like it so far though. The 300 mile ride home last week from Niehaus Cycle Sales in Illinois, was very pleasant, if a bit on the cold side at first.

The rear suspension on the Connie is more sophisticated than the wing. So much so that the lack of shaft jacking is soon forgotten if You're a Connie owner. The wing handles that pretty well also, I'd say with leverage, and weight, instead of geometry.
2008 C14, Area-P carbon fiber, PCV, Rostra Cruise, LAAM leather seat, Optilux 1500 & MondoMoto MM10 lights, Cee Bailey windshield, BMC air filter, Warm & Safe dual dash mounted heat troller.

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2019, 02:20:50 pm »
Mpg- with mcruise activated, I get an easy 50mpg on straight level traveling, at 70mph, at least that’s what display says.
Luggage capacity- this is the one thing that keeps me from replacing my c14 with a wing. I have a Shad 50 liter trunk but still wish I had more room. Spend $28k on a bike that has less cargo room? No thanks.
On a related note, I fixed up my ‘91 Suzuki katana 1100 and found a luggage set in Germany. The bags are huge, bigger than the C14, at 42L. The trunk looks like 45L, meaning even this ancient sport tourer has more capacity than a wing.
Once you’ve gone a two week trip on a bike, you learn that there is no such thing as too much luggage space.

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2019, 09:56:10 pm »
Mpg- with mcruise activated, I get an easy 50mpg on straight level traveling, at 70mph, at least that’s what display says.
Luggage capacity- this is the one thing that keeps me from replacing my c14 with a wing. I have a Shad 50 liter trunk but still wish I had more room. Spend $28k on a bike that has less cargo room? No thanks.
On a related note, I fixed up my ‘91 Suzuki katana 1100 and found a luggage set in Germany. The bags are huge, bigger than the C14, at 42L. The trunk looks like 45L, meaning even this ancient sport tourer has more capacity than a wing.
Once you’ve gone a two week trip on a bike, you learn that there is no such thing as too much luggage space.
Yeah, my last trip on the Connie lasted 26 days. Luggage capacity wasn't really an issue, because when I ran out of clean stuff, I stopped and did laundry. I expect, I'll do the same on the wing. The wing is definitely more comfortable, and that's what wing riders are paying for for the most part. Had the Rostra cruise on mine, and just couldn't squeeze more MPGs out of the ol girl, but it didn't matter because I was having so much fun. LOL

An update on the DCT transmission. It's amazing. I got a feeling this is going to become a fundamental change to many brands of bikes.
2008 C14, Area-P carbon fiber, PCV, Rostra Cruise, LAAM leather seat, Optilux 1500 & MondoMoto MM10 lights, Cee Bailey windshield, BMC air filter, Warm & Safe dual dash mounted heat troller.

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2019, 10:50:02 pm »
I always seem to bring stuff back ( micro brew bombers, souvenir stuffs) on my trips so yeah, I need the cargo. When I travel this summer, I’ll be going through AZ and TX and most of my trunk will be filled with my soft ice chest full of water ( got to keep those kidney stones hydrated ya know?)
Very intrigued with that dct thing though, and the front end makes the forks on the c14 sound like pogo sticks in comparison.
I know it looks more appealing for a passenger than the c14 but my wife hates hates hates motorcycles , can’t take more than 30 minutes of it.
So, can’t justify a trade for that.
But long solo rides, spending the night at crappy motels that are an easy walk to a brew pub...damn priceless!

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2019, 11:25:56 pm »
I always seem to bring stuff back ( micro brew bombers, souvenir stuffs) on my trips so yeah, I need the cargo. When I travel this summer, I’ll be going through AZ and TX and most of my trunk will be filled with my soft ice chest full of water ( got to keep those kidney stones hydrated ya know?)
Very intrigued with that dct thing though, and the front end makes the forks on the c14 sound like pogo sticks in comparison.
I know it looks more appealing for a passenger than the c14 but my wife hates hates hates motorcycles , can’t take more than 30 minutes of it.
So, can’t justify a trade for that.
But long solo rides, spending the night at crappy motels that are an easy walk to a brew pub...damn priceless!
Heck yeah! I'm leaving on a big ride to the west coast next week, and taking a big ol back seat bag, in case I wanna buy stuff! LOL! I just flipped 800 miles on the odometer, so I might pack an oil change kit too, because I'll definitely hit the first oil change mileage during the ride, which is 4K miles. The big Kuriakin bag would prob made a great cold drink cooler too. Haha.
I'd still be running the Connie though, if the minivan dude hadn't ruined it. What a kickass bike she was.
2008 C14, Area-P carbon fiber, PCV, Rostra Cruise, LAAM leather seat, Optilux 1500 & MondoMoto MM10 lights, Cee Bailey windshield, BMC air filter, Warm & Safe dual dash mounted heat troller.

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Re: How the Connie compared to the new Goldwing.
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 12:39:28 pm »
Drop me a line if you’re going through Humboldt county, I used to live there , have great tips, was there just last week. IMHO, the most beautiful ride in the country is avenue of the Giants, the road wraps around trees wider than some cars are long.