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Offline MtnRider

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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2019, 07:13:31 pm »
I'm a Sea Foam fan. I've used Techron but read something years back that said Sea Foam was "better". I tried it and thought SF might be a little better. Realistically, it's probably six of one, half dozen of the other. When I had the Nomad it would sit for extended periods. It would then run a bit rough. Run the specified amount of SF for 6 gallons of gas and by half way thru the tank it was running smooth as butter. Either Sf or Techron are great products and definitely worth using, especially if your bike has had to sit idle thru the winter.

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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2019, 08:11:00 pm »
here in Ohio, I buy IsoHeet, and Techron, by the "box", at WallyWorld... much cheaper than buying a bottle here and there, and then, I always have it on hand...

Techron is available at Costco by case, which is nice (I think it is 6 bottles).  I don't think it goes bad over time or anything (when factory sealed), so quantity buying is good.  I always shake it before pouring.

It is rather annoying that there are no "windows" on the bottle, so trying to guess how much is half a bottle is challenging.  But I don't think it needs to be exact.
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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2019, 08:14:49 pm »
When I had the Nomad it would sit for extended periods. It would then run a bit rough. Run the specified amount of SF for 6 gallons of gas and by half way thru the tank it was running smooth as butter. Either Sf or Techron are great products and definitely worth using, especially if your bike has had to sit idle thru the winter

I ride all winter.  But if it did sit for months, unused, like my lawn mower does in the winter, and the generator most of the time, I would use some STABIL in it (which I do in the lawn mower).  Actually, I just premix STABIL in all the gas I store in the 5 gal red "cans" (plastic), so that is what is always used in the lawn mower and generator.  That way it helps with the stored gas in the equipment and also the red "cans".
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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2019, 09:40:44 pm »
I feel better now after hearing all this . I do occasionally  use a shot of berrymans and during the winter I always use stabil 360. I don’t necessarily abandon riding , I ride when I can. But here in northern Nevada you never know when you’ll get slammed by a series of snow storms and not be able to ride for a few months ( as happen this year- we even got some snow last week!!!)

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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2019, 05:06:07 am »
Right- it does not have to be exact. The instructions state that exactly when they state to pour one bottle into a tank of gasoline..... gas tank sizes vary wildly between autos.  I tend to buy Valvoline but only because it is readily available here. And I make sure to use 'enough' and by that I mean about 1/2 bottle, added to an almost empty fuel tank right at the fuel station and then fill the tank. That way I know it is fully mixed.

The easiest way I know to verify that the stuff (any brand, just fuel injector cleaner) works is to use it for a while, say three times at 5K miles, then pull the spark plugs (on an auto or anything other than a C-14 'cause that is a cast- iron bi!ch just to look at the plugs) and it will be clear immediately that they have either no or virtually no carbon deposits on them.

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Techron is available at Costco by case, which is nice (I think it is 6 bottles).  I don't think it goes bad over time or anything (when factory sealed), so quantity buying is good.  I always shake it before pouring.

It is rather annoying that there are no "windows" on the bottle, so trying to guess how much is half a bottle is challenging.  But I don't think it needs to be exact.
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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2019, 06:02:06 am »
Right. And you never have to change / clean the fuel filter if you use F.I. cleaner once every, say, 5 to 10K miles. The F.I. cleaner really does work and will clean the entire fuel system starting with the tank, pump and pump filter. But it will also actually clean the injectors as well as the combustion chamber and even the spark plus. If you wait until the longer end of that range, 10K miles, you will also notice that after cleaning the bike will run better, idle better and have better throttle response. Scout's honor, the stuff really does work.

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Any particular type of FI cleaner? Quantity/volume to use?
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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2019, 06:09:36 am »
I do not have a favorite brand, I just pick up whatever is on sale and have used STP, Valvoline, Techchron (sp?), etc. Just make sure it is F.I. cleaner, not any kind of 'treatment', carb. cleaner or anything else. There is often a 2 or 3 package on sale for the price of one bottle and that is the one I usually pick. I stay away from 'house' brands though, only using known manufacturers types. The bottom line is that all of them contain some fairly aggressive (but not so aggressive as to eat fuel system parts, such as acetone) solvents and all work because chemistry works. Sort of like washing dishes- the process needs some detergent but the specific brand is not really important, only that there be some present.

I use about 1/2 bottle to a full tank of fuel, which is ~6 gallons. Then run the tank as low as you dare so as to not carry some F.I. cleaner into the next tank(s) of fuel; in other words, you want to use it and get rid of it. Then change the crankcase oil to get rid of both whatever F.I. cleaner blew by the rings (and it will) along with whatever carbon it washed out of the fuel system, combustion chamber and valves, especially the intake.

Along the way, almost by accident, this stuff will also clean the fuel filter, the fuel pump regulator and everything else on the downwide side of the gas filler port (or in the infamous words of Haroldo, the 'gashole').

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Re: Fuel Filter question
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2019, 09:13:39 am »
This is a good demonstration of what a FI cleaner can do. Seafoam in this case but Techron and the other name brand ones would probably have done the same. He did the full treatment with spraying it into the intake and added to the oil due to the state of his engine. That's not needed on a decently running C14, just add some to the gas. But it is a heck of a demonstration of what they can do.

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