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Offline bombsquad1201

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Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« on: May 26, 2019, 03:40:15 pm »
Howdy, Everyone.
Hope everyone's having a good memorial day.
I have a 2010 C14 with 18000 plus miles on the odometer.
Original battery has to be replaced, cheap preventative maintenance.
I would appreciate any and all comments.  I have read previously posted thoughts,
just wanted to see if there's anything new.
Thank you for taking the time to read and responde to this post.
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Offline katata1100

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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2019, 03:43:04 pm »
I got one of those new fangle lithium batteries. It cost double what a lead acid one costs but dang, it’s real light. That’s a huge plus in my book. I’ve had it for two years now.

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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2019, 11:14:52 am »
Recently we discussed a 16ah-series-YUASA-battery.
Below is the discussion.
My old battery is still holding on, but I intend to go that way eventually.
Was found for $89 at the time of the discussion. {I think @ Revzilla}
NOTE: Will have to modify my battery cover slightly, but EZ to do.

http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/16ah-series-battery-will-it-fit-a-c-14/msg666100/#msg666100

Ride safe, Ted

Offline robertv

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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2019, 11:48:09 am »
My Yuasa died last week, a YTX14H-BS. Apparently playing around with the new dashcam I recently installed and other items, it drained to a point even trickle charging wouldn't revive it. Judging from the date code, I got about 5 years which in my book is good. Luckily it happened at a park and ride and was able to get home to the car then pick up a new battery. Since I wasn't in the mood to drive further than needed for a Yuasa replacement, another local shop had a MotoBatt equivalent which has less CCA but for the upcoming trips I've planned, I'm happy I'm back on the road. Its another AGM battery, model MBTX12U. A little less in price when I was shopping for the Yuasa replacement, but warranty for 2 yrs (compared to 1 for the Yuasa) and what the service guys said and like is being AMA approved.

So yes, definitely recommend a new battery for preventative maintenance while you can before hitting the road!



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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2019, 06:50:47 pm »
I have been buying Deka AGM batteries for my bikes since about 2010 with good results.   I get them at my local farm supply store.

You can get a low cost AGM battery online.  Some guys on the Honda ST1100 Forum have bought them with good results

https://www.batterymart.com/p-ytx14-bs-agm-maintenance-free-battery.html

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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2019, 07:52:57 am »
I bricked two Motobat's in one year. Ask for details... ;D
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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2019, 07:54:51 am »
Over 1,000 posts! Get some, Martha Faulker! :o
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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2019, 09:28:06 pm »
I also thought that the Deka AGM batteries from the farm store were pretty good. I also use them in my car and truck. They were also a really good value, but the last time I went to buy one the price was significantly higher than before. They are still ok for AGM batteries, but they were the same price as a standard battery before.

Lowes carries the Deka for the concours in some places for under $70. That seems reasonable I guess.

I do want to know how the two motobats were bricked. One way is to buy a trickle charger, but not install it. The concours seems to discharge batteries.  A lot of times batteries can recover based on just which charger you have.  Maybe you need a charger that will start at a lower voltage.

Walmart does carry AGM batteries too. They may vary, but I am pretty sure the last one I bought said it was made by Johnson Controls. It wasn't exactly cheap, but they did have it in stock. I am having a hard time justifying ordering a battery online that also costs a premium price and I also don't want just any generic battery so this seemed like a good compromise.

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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2019, 05:44:13 am »
The concours seems to discharge batteries.

Most modern vehicles do.  I tested the "off/standby" current drain on the C14- it is 80mA for the first several seconds, then when the computer goes into full sleep, it was pulling 2.5mA.  That is around 16 days to consume 1Ah.  This will consume half a typical good-condition battery in 100 idle days (around 3 months).  But batteries lose their capacity over their life, so that would probably be enough to cause weak starting or prevent starting on the average battery that is a few years old (that isn't being trickle charged regularly).  Especially true when it is cold.

I ride year-round, so my computations indicate I shouldn't need a trickle charger, but reality seems to contradict my theory.  I use one to help prevent battery wear and hook it up anytime the bike is parked at home, regardless of how long it might be until the next drive.
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Re: Need a new Battery- What's the consensus
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2019, 12:49:38 pm »
That is good to know how fast the battery drains.

I wasn't sure if my battery was bad or not so I thought I would get the SigmaTek STX14-BS on Ebay since my local store was out. It was pretty cheap and it came 2nd day, but it is slightly too tall for a 2011 at least. It would probably fit without the foam pads in the upper cover. I  guess I just assumed it would fit.