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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2012, 04:11:04 am »

Rated very low in build quality, not that reliable, and who wants to deal with batteries? There is a bit more salt in the wounds Jimmy boy! :yikes:

There was a rating of that sort with one of the new shorter versions that just came out.  The older ones have consistently been near the top for reliability and quality.  Let me reiterate this, I have bought Toyotas since 1981 and their quality has always been good.  I can't afford to buy low build quality, low reliability cars as I drive for a living.  As far as the batteries go.  There haven't been that many replaced.  I expect my car to go 10 years or more based on past experience with it.  Haven't even changed the brake pads yet (257k miles).  If you want low reliability, buy a Nissan.  Both of my daughters have them and I marvel at what breaks on them.  Things that you would never see on a Toyota.  I'll stick with my Toyotas, thank you very much!   ;)
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2012, 09:45:02 am »
Anyone notice the ZERO % rate for a new VW?  Hard to argue them numbers :)

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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2012, 06:24:51 pm »
Usually VW doesn't count the TDI.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2012, 10:51:13 pm »
Usually VW doesn't count the TDI.
They did for me, and I believe Conrad as well.  They are working really hard to stomp the competition.

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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2012, 11:05:57 pm »
KIA Forte.  Had ours for three years with no issues.  Biggest trunk I have ever seen in a small car.

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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2012, 03:22:12 am »
Biggest trunk I have ever seen in a small car.


I do like big trunks..... ;D


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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2012, 04:46:51 am »
Usually VW doesn't count the TDI.

They did for me, and I believe Conrad as well.  They are working really hard to stomp the competition.

At the time they weren't offering the zero % on the SportWagens. I got 1.9% for up to 5 years, I went with 4 years.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2012, 07:24:15 am »
There was a rating of that sort with one of the new shorter versions that just came out.  The older ones have consistently been near the top for reliability and quality.  Let me reiterate this, I have bought Toyotas since 1981 and their quality has always been good.  I can't afford to buy low build quality, low reliability cars as I drive for a living.  As far as the batteries go.  There haven't been that many replaced.  I expect my car to go 10 years or more based on past experience with it.  Haven't even changed the brake pads yet (257k miles).  If you want low reliability, buy a Nissan.  Both of my daughters have them and I marvel at what breaks on them.  Things that you would never see on a Toyota.  I'll stick with my Toyotas, thank you very much!   ;)


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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2012, 08:46:32 am »

Toyota makes good stuff no doubt, but I still would "never" own a Prius. :)  You get your man-card back by riding that C14, so I will cut ya some slack. Are you ever coming to Ohio this year? I think you should make it to my Laborday Rally......just sayin.

Sparky has that Dodge truck, so that and the Prius sortta cancel each other out. His man card should be safe.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2012, 10:20:12 am »
VW group wants to be the biggest car producer on earth within a few years and is going all out to achieve it, that and some niggling quality issues recently is maybe a reason they are offering some great deals. I really like the new Jetta TDI though.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2012, 01:11:07 pm »
You get your man-card back by riding that C14, so I will cut ya some slack.

Careful now you could end up poofed....
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2012, 02:12:01 pm »
Careful now you could end up poofed....

Last guy didn't look to good...
 
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2012, 03:40:30 pm »
I looked at the Dart today. Looks really good. When I get a good chance to, I'll drive the 1.4 turbo 6-speed in limited or RT editions. The price I saw (window sticker was $22,000 ish.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2012, 03:48:49 pm »
Back to the Chevys. What a waste of material. If the auto industry was the olympics, Chevy would only get 2 medals. I'd give them 1 gold medal for the Suburban and a bronze for the Camaro. All the other vehicles were not even at the games. At least the Buick brand has the Regal. Pontiac had the G8 and that was a great design they let die with the brand. Ford is doing so good with styling in the last couple years and Dodge is bringing in so much muscle. I find it pretty hard to consider many of the foreign autos. If you want a diesel car then you don't have too many options, so you are a little bit forced to buy a VW.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2012, 07:25:04 pm »
I wish someone would offer a stripped Diesel with no options. Especially the Fords where the smaller cars get upwards of 60mpg's. Of course that will never happen here.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2012, 07:34:58 pm »
Back to the Chevys. What a waste of material. If the auto industry was the olympics, Chevy would only get 2 medals. I'd give them 1 gold medal for the Suburban and a bronze for the Camaro. All the other vehicles were not even at the games. At least the Buick brand has the Regal. Pontiac had the G8 and that was a great design they let die with the brand. Ford is doing so good with styling in the last couple years and Dodge is bringing in so much muscle. I find it pretty hard to consider many of the foreign autos. If you want a diesel car then you don't have too many options, so you are a little bit forced to buy a VW.

I guess that now is not the time to tell everyone that a lot of my family either works for or retired from Chevy including both my father and father-in-law.


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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2012, 08:47:45 am »
I guess that now is not the time to tell everyone that a lot of my family either works for or retired from Chevy including both my father and father-in-law.


Nothing wrong with letting anyone know you have family currently working or who has worked at Government Motors Company. ;)  Their little wake up call seems to be working, I too agree that their quality was in the crapper too long. Glad to see they are back, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a GMC product "now". 8)
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #77 on: August 15, 2012, 08:49:17 am »
I wish someone would offer a stripped Diesel with no options. Especially the Fords where the smaller cars get upwards of 60mpg's. Of course that will never happen here.


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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #78 on: August 15, 2012, 10:13:31 am »
A small Diesel vehicle here has too many things going against it. Car makers don't make a lot of money on small cars, in fact, some may lose on every one they sell. The big money is made in the optioned out huge trucks and SUV's. They sell the small cars to make the CAFE standards so they can make the big cars to make big money, why do you think Porsche, Lexus, and MB are making those silly Hybrids? Another is the price of furl here is still WAY low compared to the rest of the world, a Diesel isn't something most Americans will look at until the price of gas goes to about $6-8 dollars per gallon. Another factor is the Diesel itself, most Americans think they are big, noisy, clattery, smoky, slow, leaky, converted gas engines and expensive. Wrong on all accounts. A minor factor is the sheer amount of money it will cost to certify a Diesel in this country, most makers simply gave up trying to satisfy EPA and put money into getting more mpg out of gasoline engines. So, with all that in mind, I don't see any Diesels coming to the U.S. anytime soon even though every single maker offers a Diesel in every single market and model they sell in other countries. Make a stripper small car with no power anything, no blue tooth, no mytouch/synch/onstar, etc... make it a Diesel and sell it for under $15,000 watch them fly out the door, oh, wait, I think KIA or Hyundai will do it in a few years and watch the other companies play catch-up.
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Re: Stylish car with decent mpg
« Reply #79 on: August 15, 2012, 10:16:34 am »
Make a stripper small car
I'm picturing a circus clown car but SOOOO much more awesome.   ;D
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