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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 08:19:49 am »
I want one!  I'm sure I can find a good holster to hide that under my T-shirt. ;D

Hhmmm...two firing pins, one rotating cylinder, looks like the bottom barrel (inner circle of the cylinder) will run out of ammo before the top barrel.  I bet it kicks like a summ-bitch when both are firing together.  (Or maybe not with all that weight of steel in the frame/cylinder.)
Is it one cylinder, or two?  Looks like it might be one inside the other. 
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2013, 08:31:01 am »
It looks like it has a selector mechanism on the hammer...maybe
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2013, 08:42:07 am »
I'm in Canada where we do have gun control laws and I am happy about that. We are allowed guns for hunting and for collecting under tightly controlled conditions. Yes, we have criminals with guns that don't have licences, but we also have police with automatic weapons that seem to keep that under control. If the general population underwent the same screening, training and qualification that the police do then I would be OK with them carrying, but not, as it appears in the US, when any jackass with a extra $200 can buy a gun and carry it in public just waiting for someone to **** him off.

I think that US gun laws are basically non-existent and many innocent people are dying that don't need to. Our gun laws aren't perfect, but everyone that wants to still gets to hunt and target shoot without taking pot shots at random citizens.

As an aside; why do you need assault rifles? Deer don't shoot back.

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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2013, 09:04:11 am »
Posts like this will consign this thread to the Arena. When it does we'll continue this conversation. In the mean time, please consider the fact that you have insulted a majority of the members of this forum. In short, screw you.
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 09:10:51 am »
Posts like this will consign this thread to the Arena. When it does we'll continue this conversation. In the mean time, please consider the fact that you have insulted a majority of the members of this forum. In short, screw you.


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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2013, 09:15:56 am »
In a calm voice Jonathan, you and your countrymen grew up with your laws, as we grew up with ours. Now we as a country are being forced
into a limited freedom change, and a vast majority are not in agreement with them. If the shoe were on the other foot, how would your countrymen
react to a similar change? With open arms? And accepting criticism from non-citizens, plus being insulted on your intelligence? Without the understanding
on how the majority of us grew up controlling our weapons, being instructed from our family, instructors and military, an intelligent opinion should not
be formed without that knowledge, don't you think??
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2013, 09:24:56 am »
In a calm voice Jonathan, you and your countrymen grew up with your laws, as we grew up with ours. Now we as a country are being forced
into a limited freedom change, and a vast majority are not in agreement with them. If the shoe were on the other foot, how would your countrymen
react to a similar change? With open arms? And accepting criticism from non-citizens, plus being insulted on your intelligence? Without the understanding
on how the majority of us grew up controlling our weapons, being instructed from our family, instructors and military, an intelligent opinion should not
be formed without that knowledge, don't you think??

Thank you for explaining that. I am trying to understand this situation and did not mean to insult anyone. We do not get the insight from the media here, only the sensationalism.

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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 09:38:53 am »
The fact that we live in a modern age we have modern firearms to defend against the same and is as it should be. My intent is for my protection from terrorism in what ever form. Homeland security admits they cannot control our boarders or criminals and the facts prove this. We the people need to get this fact presented not the need for deer rifles and single shot 22s. That is the REAL purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect ourselves from tyranny from what ever source. The law could not stop the psychos. An organize and armed public might be able to, as well as defend against the armed drug cartels south of us. How would you feel living near the border with the proposed laws in effect? All warm and fuzzy I'm sure. JP
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 10:01:03 am »
Thank you for explaining that. I am trying to understand this situation and did not mean to insult anyone. We do not get the insight from the media here, only the sensationalism.

And that is a BIG problem for us. It is apparent that the current administration, along with the entertainment industry (including the media), are in
lock step to lead the (sh)people down a path that is beneficial for the controlling principals, not for the citizens. I personally find that the media
scores big numbers of supporters in cities, consisting of a melting pot of folks from around the world, with their mindset from their own countries
beliefs. And then you have the city folk, that never step outside of their overpopulated lifestyle, and who would never step into any body of water
that isn't contained by concrete. Not too many hunters live in the city, nor do too many of them concern themselves with how the other 90% of America
live, or support themselves and others. The old 'head in the sand' scenario.. As I speak for myself, I know that the majority of America is disgruntled
with the direction our so called leaders are pointing us to. I'm very afraid that a re-alignment may be forming, and this catalyst will divide us. So be it..
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2013, 10:01:41 am »
Thank you for explaining that. I am trying to understand this situation and did not mean to insult anyone. We do not get the insight from the media here, only the sensationalism.

And that right there is a LARGE part of our problem.  The "media" in the U.S. acts as a mouthpiece for the liberal section that does not give a fig for accuracy in reporting.  The whole mission is to create sensationalism to keep churning the issues for "discussion", which means argument. Almost everything you hear/read about firearms, and the posession and use thereof, on television and newspapers, is inaccurate, misleading, just plain wrong.  Hollywood never gets it right.  Everything shown in movies and television is inaccurate.  The non-gun-owning people accept this as gospel and form their opinions based on inaccurate info.  Case in point:  An AR-15 IS NOT an "assault rifle", since it has no fully automatic function.  It just LOOKS like one.  And banning units solely because they have a pistol grip is just pandering to the uninformed who don't know what they are talking about.  They want to limit magazines to 10 rounds.  But they don't know that you can chamber a round, then "top-up" your magazine and have a total of 11 rounds in the pistol.  (Sshh...don't tell them.)  You'd be surprised how many people think semi-automatic means machine gun.  It does not.  Long before the general acceptance of the "AR" style weapons, there were semi-automatic rifles used for hunting.  And what about lever-action?  In the hands of an experienced person they are pretty darned fast.  The lever-action Henry repeater was the "assault rifle" of it's day, and the hand-cranked Gatling gun was supposed to make warfare obsolete.  The .223  cal AR is not legal for hunting in many areas due to it's power rating.  But you can use an auto loading BAR in .30-06, with much greater killing power and no one wants to ban those.  And in either case you may be limited in the number of rounds carried while hunting. 

Society needs a monster.  If we don't have one, we will invent one.  We NEED to have something to focus our anger at. It is much easier to focus that anger at things than at other people, although we do that too.  Today we are focusing our anger on firearms.  Tomorrow it will be something else that "they" want banned.
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2013, 10:14:26 am »
I'm in Canada where we do have gun control laws and I am happy about that. We are allowed guns for hunting and for collecting under tightly controlled conditions. Yes, we have criminals with guns that don't have licences, but we also have police with automatic weapons that seem to keep that under control. If the general population underwent the same screening, training and qualification that the police do then I would be OK with them carrying, but not, as it appears in the US, when any jackass with a extra $200 can buy a gun and carry it in public just waiting for someone to **** him off.

I think that US gun laws are basically non-existent and many innocent people are dying that don't need to. Our gun laws aren't perfect, but everyone that wants to still gets to hunt and target shoot without taking pot shots at random citizens.

As an aside; why do you need assault rifles? Deer don't shoot back.

I disagree 100% with his  point of  view!!!   BUT WE  must defend his right to free speech above all! WE can not pick and choose which rights we accept and which we don't depending on his point of view  even  while being diametrically opposed .
and remember liberals like deer dont shoot back because they don't have guns.... ;D

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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2013, 10:19:40 am »
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2013, 10:51:26 am »
The 2nd Amendment wasn't put into place for hunting......end of story. And you can bet your butt that many AR platforms are in fact used for hunting, and no they are not assault rifles.
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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2013, 11:07:19 am »
It's really simple. America has LOTS of guns.  You can't wish them away. "when you outlaw guns, only criminals will have guns".   It really is as simple as that.  When you make a gun free zone, law-abiding citizens are forced to not carry guns there.  But nut jobs and criminals don't care, so they walk into shooting gallery and shoot with impunity.

People always think that if you have concealed carry, it's like the Old West, shootouts on every corner, non stop death. Well, the vast majority of states have it and have for a while, do you hear about a lot of shootouts by concealed carrying folks. No, you only hear about nut jobs and gang bangers, neither of them follow laws so what good does a law do?


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Re: What do you guys think of this stupid assault weapons ban gibberish?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2013, 11:17:40 am »
A VERY interesting video that covers this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w0o7YgiTFm4
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