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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1401 on: September 26, 2016, 04:09:40 am »
Went in to a Dunkin Donuts to get some coffee.   Four were in line to get something including me.   A person at the counter, two girls side by side, and then me.  The space between the two girls and the person at the counter was wide enough to drive my truck through.  I knew they were in line but it was all I could do to not say 'Are ya'll in line or are you just taking up space?'  Don't you just hate it when someone leaves a gap big enough to drive a truck through when you're waiting in line?   I was darn near out the door!  And of course there's the person that's never ordered donuts before taking a minute to select each donut to fill out their dozen!
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1402 on: September 26, 2016, 04:43:43 am »
What was wrong with the drive thru?
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1403 on: September 26, 2016, 05:01:42 am »
No drive thru on this one..
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1404 on: September 26, 2016, 05:34:56 am »
Not really.

What I hate are stupid non-centralized/non-single queue lines.  No matter which line I get in, it is almost always slower than whatever the average is.  Is it really that hard to have a single line design?
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1405 on: September 26, 2016, 05:57:09 am »
It really doesn't matter....If you're not the lead dog the view never changes.
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1406 on: September 26, 2016, 06:47:32 am »
Not really.

What I hate are stupid non-centralized/non-single queue lines.  No matter which line I get in, it is almost always slower than whatever the average is.  Is it really that hard to have a single line design?

Communist much?  :o

On average, you should be in just as many fast lines as slow lines. The fact that you almost always perceive you are in the slower line is an indication of your ungratefulness when you are actually in the faster line. It's the selfish human nature that wants to be first preventing the single line design. Consider road construction. When the interstate gets pinched down to a single lane, the traffic line will move faster for everyone the further from the bottleneck everyone gets into a single line. But what happens? People in the back race ahead in the soon to be closed open lane, trying to break in the line, trying to be first, trying to minimize their wait at the expense of everyone's wait. This slows the line down for everyone.

Many shorter lines seem better than one long line to consumers. And then there's the matter of choice in a democratic society. Choose your own line and your own destiny, or have no choice and be herded into a single, socialistic line? A few places do the socialist thing; Old Navy, Barnes & Noble, etc.
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1407 on: September 26, 2016, 06:57:15 am »
I'm with Max on this one.  Even if a line appears shorter in say like Food Lion or Walmart (I detest going to either of these stores) something happens and it always slows down which makes me crazy and annoyed.
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1408 on: September 26, 2016, 07:26:04 am »
Screw it..... Exercise your Constitutional right to just cut to the front.
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1409 on: September 26, 2016, 08:00:52 am »
There are times when it makes me crazy to be in line, until I remember that I can either be in a hurry and wait or I can just wait. Either way, I'm waiting. Occasionally I choose to allow it to make me crazy, usually I don't.

It took me a LONG time and a TON of crazy to come to that realization.
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1410 on: September 26, 2016, 09:39:18 am »
Screw it..... Exercise your Constitutional right to just cut to the front.

Which Article or Amendment guarantees that right?

The First? As in, "I want to be First!"

Or the Second? As in, "I WILL be First!"  ;D
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1411 on: September 26, 2016, 09:42:59 am »
Here is a short documentary on how queuing in traffic lanes work in real life:


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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1412 on: September 26, 2016, 10:00:17 am »
Here is a short documentary on how queuing in traffic lanes work in real life:

http://youtu.be/JrHjWRm-eXA


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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1413 on: September 26, 2016, 10:03:21 am »
Communist much?  :o

On average, you should be in just as many fast lines as slow lines. The fact that you almost always perceive you are in the slower line is an indication of your ungratefulness when you are actually in the faster line. It's the selfish human nature that wants to be first preventing the single line design. Consider road construction. When the interstate gets pinched down to a single lane, the traffic line will move faster for everyone the further from the bottleneck everyone gets into a single line. But what happens? People in the back race ahead in the soon to be closed open lane, trying to break in the line, trying to be first, trying to minimize their wait at the expense of everyone's wait. This slows the line down for everyone.

Many shorter lines seem better than one long line to consumers. And then there's the matter of choice in a democratic society. Choose your own line and your own destiny, or have no choice and be herded into a single, socialistic line? A few places do the socialist thing; Old Navy, Barnes & Noble, etc.

That's quite the thoughtful reply!

Now factor into this the times we get in line at the 20 items or less checkout only to find that the person in front of you has no idea what 20 or less actually means.... 
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1414 on: September 26, 2016, 12:41:39 pm »
The "documentary" illustrates my second point about multiple lines. I was taught once you've chosen your line, stay in it. Perceived benefits of the other line will evaporate like a mirage once you recommit, and you will have wasted all the time you invested in your original choice. Marriages are that way, too. Although, my attorney told me, "They say the grass is never greener. But sometimes, it is."

In re: 20 items or less. Remember when that line was 10 items or less? Was that because checkers got better or customers got more stupid or selfish?
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1415 on: September 26, 2016, 04:05:31 pm »
Communist much?  :o

Um.... hell no.  Fairness, yes.

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On average, you should be in just as many fast lines as slow lines. The fact that you almost always perceive you are in the slower line is an indication of your ungratefulness when you are actually in the faster line.

You are assuming it is a natural distribution and that I don't have bad luck.  Not sure either is true.  The other thing is it has nothing to do with selfishness... I think it is just as unfair when I DO get a fast line, it screws everyone else.

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It's the selfish human nature that wants to be first preventing the single line design. Consider road construction. When the interstate gets pinched down to a single lane, the traffic line will move faster for everyone the further from the bottleneck everyone gets into a single line. But what happens? People in the back race ahead in the soon to be closed open lane, trying to break in the line, trying to be first, trying to minimize their wait at the expense of everyone's wait. This slows the line down for everyone.

It is not the same as that at all.  In the store/service case it is a single queue but would have multiple customer service reps at the other side.  I don't see how this is a reasonable comparison.  Traffic is totally different- you can generally change lanes and are not "cutting in line" because it really isn't a line but a path.  But since you mention it... In traffic, I will *ALWAYS* get into whatever lane is closing and merge when there is no road left (the "merge point").  Precisely because the majority of people are trying to force themselves into the non-closing lane way before it happens and at random AND allowing alternate merging at the merge point, making the non-closing lane crazy slow and unfair.  Slow speed merging should be done only at the merge point, and should be alternating.  High speed merging should be done as soon as reasonably possible (but what fraction is high speed anymore.... super rare). 

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Many shorter lines seem better than one long line to consumers. And then there's the matter of choice in a democratic society. Choose your own line and your own destiny, or have no choice and be herded into a single, socialistic line? A few places do the socialist thing; Old Navy, Barnes & Noble, etc.

I wouldn't categorize this as a socialist vs. democratic thing.  But all I know is that *I* would much rather not have to pick a lane and then get frustrated at the speed and not have a good feeling for when I will be served.  With a single line system, I don't have to decide anything, I know it will be fair to everyone, and I can much better predict how long it will take.

I think the only real reason multi-line systems exist is simply that of space/layout.  Single line systems, especially with large carts and such being pushed around, are not as "compact."
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1416 on: September 26, 2016, 06:00:58 pm »
Which Article or Amendment guarantees that right?

The First? As in, "I want to be First!"

Or the Second? As in, "I WILL be First!"  ;D
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1417 on: September 26, 2016, 08:08:41 pm »
You're one of the ones I get crazy and annoyed at who races ahead to break into the single line that's trying to get through construction. If everyone were to get into single file while speed is still high, way ahead of the bottle neck, then there wouldn't be any choke down/slow down at the bottle neck.

I used that as an illustration of the human nature; not to make a direct comparison to shopping lines. People would rather THINK/PERCEIVE they are getting into a shorter/faster line, even if it is not faster, than get into your long line, even if it is faster. A long line appears to be bad and people don't want choice taken away from them.

When you say, "I don't want to pick," (I want someone to pick for me) "I don't want to decide," (I want someone to decide for me) and "I know it will be fair to everyone," (I want an equal redistribution of waiting in line), then you express an explicit socialist mindset. The American democratic/capitalist mindset says, "I want to pick," "I want to decide," "First come, first served." What does fair have to do with anything?
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1418 on: September 26, 2016, 08:20:05 pm »
You're one of the ones I get crazy and annoyed at who races ahead to break into the single line that's trying to get through construction. If everyone were to get into single file while speed is still high, way ahead of the bottle neck, then there wouldn't be any choke down/slow down at the bottle neck.

I used that as an illustration of the human nature; not to make a direct comparison to shopping lines. People would rather THINK/PERCEIVE they are getting into a shorter/faster line, even if it is not faster, than get into your long line, even if it is faster. A long line appears to be bad and people don't want choice taken away from them.

When you say, "I don't want to pick," (I want someone to pick for me) "I don't want to decide," (I want someone to decide for me) and "I know it will be fair to everyone," (I want an equal redistribution of waiting in line), then you express an explicit socialist mindset. The American democratic/capitalist mindset says, "I want to pick," "I want to decide," "First come, first served." What does fair have to do with anything?
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Re: What makes me crazy and annoyed..
« Reply #1419 on: September 26, 2016, 08:41:45 pm »
Oh you remind me of one our absent brothers, Pokey.   ;D
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