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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2016, 04:32:35 pm »
You're right, any change would require a different part #.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #136 on: October 28, 2016, 09:05:24 pm »
Freddy, do you have any pictures of that mod?





3/8 UNC bolt, nylock nut washers & thread tape used to blank off the right linked hose which is tied to the reflector bracket above.  The bolt shown is a tad longer than the one I used.


EDIT: I've not been 100% happy with the method I used to block the displaced hose.  Having given more thought to it and scratching about in my tub of left-over bit from other jobs I came up with this short hose fitted with a 10x1mm plug.  The hose is from a 1400 ABS unit.  In stock form it joins the long steel pipes that run under the tank to the ABS unit - but it's a spare from a wrecked bike.  This short hose with plug will replace the displaced hose which presently runs to the right caliper.  It's necessary to lift the fuel tank to access the front end of the steel pipe to fit the 'block-off' hose. This update gives certainty that no leak will ever develop.  Of the 2 bikes I personally did the 'bolt & tape' block-off to, neither have developed any seepage whatsoever after more than 2 years with that somewhat primitive 'fix.'


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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2016, 10:48:20 pm »
Hi,
        Admittedly, the linked brakes on my 2012 does not bother me.

I have seen a few of these "fixes" on different Forums, but....

It always seems that the fix involves losing the ABS function???

All that to ask is this still the case???

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #138 on: October 28, 2016, 10:58:26 pm »
Hi,
        Admittedly, the linked brakes on my 2012 does not bother me.

I have seen a few of these "fixes" on different Forums, but....

It always seems that the fix involves losing the ABS function???

All that to ask is this still the case???

This mod has no impact on ABS function.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #139 on: October 30, 2016, 07:28:00 am »
Thanks, Freddy!
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #140 on: October 30, 2016, 08:36:22 am »
This mod has no impact on ABS function.

Hi,
        Thanks!

That was my problem, with other "solutions"!

I want this bike to have all the "safety" from the factory, it came with!!! 8)

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #141 on: November 01, 2016, 06:59:12 am »
Hi,
        Thanks!

That was my problem, with other "solutions"!

I want this bike to have all the "safety" from the factory, it came with!!! 8)

Hey, my bike didn't come with those "safety" options!

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #142 on: July 16, 2017, 12:02:55 am »
I've managed to 'rehost' the pix in reply 136 above which went missing due to Photobucket holding us to ransom.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #143 on: July 16, 2017, 02:37:15 am »
I've managed to 'rehost' the pix in reply 136 above which went missing due to Photobucket holding us to ransom.

If you upload the photos to the forum, then they will never go missing (they are still externally hosted).  Unless, of course, the forum itself goes.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2017, 06:40:56 am »
I've managed to 'rehost' the pix in reply 136 above which went missing due to Photobucket holding us to ransom.

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #145 on: July 18, 2017, 08:08:39 am »
Thanks Freddy you just gave me a winter time project on my 2012.

I priced out the parts through Honda East in Toledo for around $80 shipped including the fender loop line clamps, brake line and a bunch of brake line washers.

I hate the linked braking on the Concours it is terrible IMO.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #146 on: July 18, 2017, 03:12:41 pm »
Thanks Freddy you just gave me a winter time project on my 2012.

I priced out the parts through Honda East in Toledo for around $80 shipped including the fender loop line clamps, brake line and a bunch of brake line washers.

I hate the linked braking on the Concours it is terrible IMO.


My goodness.   You must not have read this... http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22616.msg280210#msg280210

If you had, you wouldn't be saying that.  I think that most would agree with your thoughts on the linked braking.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2017, 04:48:30 pm »
My goodness.   You must not have read this... http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22616.msg280210#msg280210

If you had, you wouldn't be saying that.  I think that most would agree with your thoughts on the linked braking.


I've only had a Concours for little over 3 weeks. But I have been riding and racing motorcycles for 40+ years and I think I know when brakes suck. And the Concours linked braking is terrible. Yes it will stop in a straight line very well but it's a dance of off balance unpredictable things going on that the real rider has no real control over. I become the link trying to unlink the crap through years of what I've mastered in extreme usage of brakes on a Motorcycle. I do not mind abs when it works like it should nor do I dislike linked braking systems that work inna seamless manner. Case in point the systems found on Yamaha streetbikes with linked brake systems. Those systems work well and go virtually unoticed by the rider.

The Kawasaki system is flawed if you trail brake to the apex of turns. The nose diving grabby front end is a disaster waiting to happen. I'll de-link mine and it'll be a fine sport tourer then.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #148 on: July 18, 2017, 05:04:45 pm »
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #149 on: July 18, 2017, 05:11:55 pm »
The Kawasaki system is flawed if you trail brake to the apex of turns. The nose diving grabby front end is a disaster waiting to happen. I'll de-link mine and it'll be a fine sport tourer then.

It is funny how just a little bit of programming can mess something up.  Too bad we don't have a way to flash the ABS computer to change the values so the linking ratios could be altered.  I am not sure if it is even reprogrammable, though; it might have no interface to the outside world or the tables could be ROM (physically not changeable).
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