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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #120 on: November 15, 2015, 02:48:16 pm »
.....but I can tell you my 2015 front calipers are fed by the same brake line, with a 'Y' between the forks.
  ???

Yes you CAN tell us that, but making us believe it is another matter.

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2015, 01:49:50 pm »
Practice folks.

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I invoke the ABS once in a while, just to know it's there. Straight line, some dirt or humidity or cold will do. A strong pulse on the lever and let go. Also emergency braking from increasing speeds: 20, 40 and 60 mph.
I had the chance to "practice" an emergency brake recently while doing 130 and a sudden jam formed (accident ahead) and had to throw anchor. The rate at which the brake system on this bike can shave speed is ridiculous, astonishing. I almost needed a paper bag. And no less impressive is how stable is the chassis, no weave whatsoever like on more sporty bikes with more aggressive steering.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2015, 02:12:09 pm »
+10000

I invoke the ABS once in a while, just to know it's there. Straight line, some dirt or humidity or cold will do. A strong pulse on the lever and let go. Also emergency braking from increasing speeds: 20, 40 and 60 mph.
I had the chance to "practice" an emergency brake recently while doing 130 and a sudden jam formed (accident ahead) and had to throw anchor. The rate at which the brake system on this bike can shave speed is ridiculous, astonishing. I almost needed a paper bag. And no less impressive is how stable is the chassis, no weave whatsoever like on more sporty bikes with more aggressive steering.

+1 Even a low skilled rider such as myself panicking and mashing front and rear, the bike just stops without any fuss or upset. Now my greatest concern when braking hard is what's behind me because I know with rare exception, there is no way they can stop as fast.

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #123 on: November 16, 2015, 03:14:17 pm »
Now my greatest concern when braking hard is what's behind me because I know with rare exception, there is no way they can stop as fast.

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2015, 04:06:26 pm »
  ???

Yes you CAN tell us that, but making us believe it is another matter.

https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/154077/2015/ZG1400EFF

wasted breath brother, wasted on someone who has no clue.
one line runs down to caliper, and a piggyback line runs to the other caliper...

expert with less than a thousand miles on the seat of that bike.

and the list keeps growing....
its been a slave left caliper for years. (not) great design, makes ya buy pads in half sets.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2015, 10:22:40 pm »
wasted breath brother, wasted on someone who has no clue.
one line runs down to caliper, and a piggyback line runs to the other caliper...

....its been a slave left caliper for years.
  ???  ???  ???

Sorry MOB, but other than '08 and '09, I don't believe you either.  :(
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #126 on: October 27, 2016, 04:42:43 pm »
Randy that figured out the fix in the beginning of this thread had some pics attatched that  i cannot see . Are they still around or am i doing something wrong . Thanks 

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #127 on: October 27, 2016, 10:43:22 pm »
Randy that figured out the fix in the beginning of this thread had some pics attatched that  i cannot see . Are they still around or am i doing something wrong . Thanks 

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2016, 12:28:30 am »
:offtopic: I know, but how about introducing yourself......?

Just asking....

+1

Here's what I posted on another forum.

The linked brakes can be disabled quite easily.  I did it recently on my new-to-me 2011.  Using the cross-over hose and the 2-hose banjo bolt from the right caliper of the earlier non-linked bike, connect the right caliper to the left caliper using that new hose and bolt to the left caliper.  The displaced hose banjo to the right caliper must be capped/blocked and cable tied for security - I tied it to the reflector mount.  I used a 3/8" (10mm) bolt and nylock nut, 2 sealing washers and thread tape on the bolt (just to help seal the thread) and new sealing washers on all loosened joints and flushed/bled the entire system.  Test ride and examine all connections closely for any signs of leakage and ensure that you have a full and firm brake lever and pedal, indicating no air in the system, and that brake performance is as normal as before - except for the linked brake function obviously. If this procedure is followed correctly and done by a competent person, the rider will be happy with the result (I was) and the ABS K-ACT system will be none the wiser (as mine was) and the ABS will function as normal.

However, do the above at your own risk.   ;)   I gleaned this procedure from old posts on this and/or other forums quite some time ago.  I had a 2008 bike and didn't like the linked system on the later model either so I reverted to the earlier system.  I have read that the current/new model's linked brake system is unobtrusive after K 'retuned' it.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2016, 04:41:56 am »
Freddy, do you have any pictures of that mod?
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2016, 05:42:00 am »
I will do some tomorrow, but it's similar to the gen 1 which many folks know well, except that gen 2 left caliper brake hose is the active one and the right (linked) one is plugged as described and tied to the right reflector bracket.

See hose 43095B to the left of the triple clamp in the illustration link below, plus bolt 92153B

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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2016, 06:41:27 am »
Does anyone know what Kaw changed from the 2010 - 2014 models to get the linked brakes to the way they are on the 2015 and newer bikes?

Was it mechanical changes in the ABS unit or could it have been an electronic change like getting your ECU flashed?
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2016, 03:05:47 pm »
Does anyone know what Kaw changed from the 2010 - 2014 models to get the linked brakes to the way they are on the 2015 and newer bikes?  [less linking]

Was it mechanical changes in the ABS unit or could it have been an electronic change like getting your ECU flashed?

I am going to *SPECULATE* that it is just a simple software change....  an update to a table value.  Because that is all it should take.  But that isn't going to be offered for reprogramming.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2016, 03:12:34 pm »
Check abs pump and ecm part numbers.
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Re: Linked Brakes Fixed
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2016, 03:35:37 pm »
Check abs pump and ecm part numbers.

That would only tell you there was a difference but not what or why, though.  Theoretically, the change would only require a few changes in a few bytes in a table in EEPROM.  But of course that would require they use a whole new part number, since they don't offer software updates/patches/upgrades.
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