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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #150 on: October 05, 2016, 08:41:38 am »
Yes, got all your messages and have now replied to all of them. Your order was placed yesterday and while I normally ship the next day (which would be this morning), your product is going to ship one day later than that due to other distractions on my end. You will get a tracking number and e-mail message tonight and will receive your product w/in 2-3 days via USPS.

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Hey Brian, I ordered one of your low fuel delete warning and was wondering if you received my order? I have sent 2 additional emails to your website and have not got a reply, should I reorder it here on this forum? I look forward to installing it and getting rid of that annoying low fuel warning and fuel pump icon. Let me know, Thanks Robert

This tracking number 9400109699939296272983 has the item going to Merigold Mississippi and sent to a P.O box and it arrived on 1 Oct 2016, I live in Lawton Oklahoma I ordered my low fuel device on 3 October 2016 and used my PayPal account which has already showed a credit toward your Company. I appreciate any help from you in getting this resolved. Thanks again Robert Green (aka robval1987@yahoo.com) or (robval1987 on kawasaki Concours forum).
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #151 on: October 09, 2016, 10:48:56 am »
I received the fuel sensor delete, all I got t o say is outstanding product. Just for **** and giggles I decided to see how low I could go on the range. At 0 miles left I still went 7 mile per odometer before she began to sputter, so I hit the next off ramp and there just happened to be a gas station (still before I left on this test I fill a 2 gallon fuel can just in case), but none the less I loved being able to track my fuel range to the end. I did put $15.00 in fuel about 5.931 gallons of gas in a 6 gallon system. Thanks again Brian for a great little affordable effective device.
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #152 on: October 14, 2016, 10:09:58 am »
Thanks for the kind words and glad to hear you like the product.

And now we all know that the range indicator will not read in the negative range. :-)

Brian

I received the fuel sensor delete, all I got t o say is outstanding product. Just for **** and giggles I decided to see how low I could go on the range. At 0 miles left I still went 7 mile per odometer before she began to sputter, so I hit the next off ramp and there just happened to be a gas station (still before I left on this test I fill a 2 gallon fuel can just in case), but none the less I loved being able to track my fuel range to the end. I did put $15.00 in fuel about 5.931 gallons of gas in a 6 gallon system. Thanks again Brian for a great little affordable effective device.
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #153 on: October 17, 2016, 10:55:40 pm »
Brian has a top notch product, and even better customer service. I havent been below 12 miles left on mine, but as mentioned, I just like not having it flash at me, and read to a lower level.  I will eventually get the Kipass device at some point as well.

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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #154 on: February 09, 2017, 02:29:23 pm »


I was originally planning on using a separate, remote warning in the form of a simple red LED that affixed somewhere on the dash. That way the bike would ignore the warning but the discreet LED would light when the 'low fuel' level was reached. The two basic problems with that method were cost and the fact that the remote LED would need to be wired onto the bike and a lot of people either cannot or do not want to do any dissemble, wire routing, possible drilling of holes, etc. This is the truly 'plug 'n play' version that can be added to the bike easily.



Rather than fitting a new LED did you consider utilising an existing one?

I'm thinking the red light that come on when you use the OEM override function on low fuel or low battery.

E.g. Use the pulse you are currently suppressing to fire (possibly fire a latchingrelay) a signal to that warning lamp in parallel to suppressing the main warning display.

Just a thought as not familiar with the bikes wiring or how easy it would be to tap that warning light
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2017, 10:04:13 am »
Just a thought as not familiar with the bikes wiring or how easy it would be to tap that warning light

Probably not very easy.  At a minimum, it would require removing the dash/instrument cluster, opening up that unit, then soldering a lead to the lamp.
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2017, 12:55:59 pm »
That would be even more difficult and cost more to produce. It is not that it cannot be done but it cannot be done at a level that would be reasonable considering cost and installation issues.

One of the really important parts of my products is that they are very easy to install and require absolutely no modification of the bike whatsoever. Certainly it is easy enough to cut into a harness (loom) and add or alter wires to an existing circuit..... for someone skilled in doing this. For the vast majority of motorcycle riders, this is either not desirable, not applicable (beyond their comfort or tool range) or both.

I believe I was the first one to adapt a Rostra cruise onto a C-14 back in '08 and wrote up a fairly detailed guide on how to do this. Still, installing one of those requires modifying both electrical circuits (again, simple cutting, splicing and tapping) and some relatively simple fabrication. When I put up the tutorial, I believed that virtually 100% of the problems would be on the mechanical side with the electrical side being simple enough to be w/in most everyones' reach. It turned out to be exactly the opposite: it seems people rip right through the fabrication part, and many have actually improved the installation considerably from my original but many people get stopped cold by the wiring, including quite a few things that were really surprising to me such as 'There is no orange wire on my Rostra' (yep, there is) and 'I tied all the "left over" wires to ground 'cause I knew they could not just dangle'. [Sorry if I am mentioning anyone specific- not my intent to point to anyone specifically or poke fun at anyone at all, just showing examples that come to mind]  So, while your thoughts and ideas may work in some cases, they are not practical to provide to the general public. In fact, there are areas where I will not even provide the method of doing some things because I believe it might be dangerous for some folks to tinker in areas that involve and ECU or ABS brakes or similar.

Back to the LED: the low fuel warning circuit on a C-14 is not a switch but a more complex circuit, so there is no 'current when the switch is on' to route anywhere. The only way to adapt the existing circuit to act as a trigger for an electrical / electronic device is with a third, active circuit (i.e., a programmable controller) and again, that would be cost prohibitive to market and far too expensive for me to produce and give away. :-)  The underlying problem is that any such item would only work on a C-14 so there is no sizeable market to develop more complex products.

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Rather than fitting a new LED did you consider utilising an existing one?

I'm thinking the red light that come on when you use the OEM override function on low fuel or low battery.

E.g. Use the pulse you are currently suppressing to fire (possibly fire a latchingrelay) a signal to that warning lamp in parallel to suppressing the main warning display.

Just a thought as not familiar with the bikes wiring or how easy it would be to tap that warning light
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #157 on: April 28, 2017, 09:47:54 pm »
Tried to order the low fuel setup and it says out of stock. Wanting to get one asap. Thanks let me know when it is back in stock.
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #158 on: April 29, 2017, 06:13:33 am »
Working on it- should have some by the end of the weekend or first of this week.

Brian

Tried to order the low fuel setup and it says out of stock. Wanting to get one asap. Thanks let me know when it is back in stock.
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Re: That pesky low fuel warning and the disappearance of the range function.
« Reply #159 on: April 29, 2017, 08:57:57 pm »
Let me know when you do. Want one on the way ASAP. Thanks
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26 May UPDATE: Now have some back in stock! They can be ordered via my website (www.Incontrolne.com) if shipping inside the US, or contact me directly via my e-mail (at the top / left hand corner of this page) and I will send you an invoice if shipping outside the US.

Thanks for your patience- it has been an uphill struggle getting to these things.

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To my non- US customers and potential customers: shipping prices have recently dropped dramatically. I have no idea why this is but what was a common price to ship to many parts of the world overseas was in the $20 to $30 (US) range, which was frankly ridiculous. These were the prices actually charged me to ship my products; I do not tack on any extra for shipping. And of course, a shipping charge of $30 was quite substantial on a $50 retail cost product.

I just got a price to ship to Australia and it was $8 (US) which includes both actual shipping charges as well as exchange rate surcharges. Shipping to Canada has been $5 (US) recently.

I just wanted to let the folks outside the US know that my products are now a lot more reasonable to purchase due to a dramatic decrease in shipping costs.

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Thanks for the kind words and glad to hear you like the product.

And now we all know that the range indicator will not read in the negative range. :-)

Brian
Hello Brian
I was wondering if the Kipass bypass is still available?
 Mine just crapped out.
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Yes but I am out of stock and nursing a shoulder injury- I cannot assembly any at the moment. Check back in a few (4 to 6) weeks and I <should> have some.

Also working on the website to fix various broken links and provide some more info. about the products.

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Hello Brian
I was wondering if the Kipass bypass is still available?
 Mine just crapped out.
Thanks
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Thanks Brian.
I hope you get well soon.