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Son of Pappy

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MAP Sharing
« on: May 21, 2013, 12:39:51 pm »
So, first, some simple ground rules....
If someone such as Jamie from AreaP is developing and selling a MAP for a product don't share it here, unless of course he/they give permission.

What I would like to see are Auto Tune developed MAPs or MAPs built from a dyno run and saved to a PCV.

If we screw this up I am certain Mr Loctite will be along to put a stop to it.

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 12:43:35 pm »
This run yielded 161.5 RWHP.  I'm sure more is there, just need to get more air to the TBs.

To open the MAP you must download the Power Commander App which is free from Dynojet.  http://www.dynojet.com/downloads/DefaultNew.aspx?ProdType=PCV
« Last Edit: July 29, 2013, 10:57:14 am by Silverdammit!! »

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 09:36:25 pm »
Wouldn't Altitude/Temp/Humidity etc have an affect on the map?

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 09:52:45 pm »
Wouldn't Altitude/Temp/Humidity etc have an affect on the map?
Yes, hence the Auto Tune, I get consistant MPG throughout the year and no perceptible loss of performance at higher altitudes.  The conditions when I had the run were close to optimal.  I just need to figure out how I can get more air in ;D  Junes right around the corner which means track time, which means ram air will be in full effect :P

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 11:24:20 pm »
Yes, hence the Auto Tune, I get consistent MPG throughout the year and no perceptible loss of performance at higher altitudes.  The conditions when I had the run were close to optimal.  I just need to figure out how I can get more air in ;D  Junes right around the corner which means track time, which means ram air will be in full effect :P

I have the same setup with AutoTune but I'm always looking for more... 

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 01:11:24 pm »
I'm going to sticky this for a bit and we'll see what interest there is....so far, doesn't look like much unfortunately.
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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 01:20:02 pm »
I'm going to sticky this for a bit and we'll see what interest there is....so far, doesn't look like much unfortunately.

Ironically, I think "sticky" actually reduces attention/interest.

When I look at the forums, I look at what is "new", and that is what is below the stickies.  I almost never pay any attention to stickies because many rarely change.  I saw this by accident.  When you moved the "low fuel warning" one, I didn't even know what happened.

I wonder if I am alone?
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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 02:46:25 pm »
So, who else has a MAP they want to share?

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 05:24:47 pm »
Thanks for sharing your map SilverDammit!!!, it does seem to have more power now, the front wheel comes off the ground more easily!
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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 12:26:51 am »
Ironically, I think "sticky" actually reduces attention/interest.

When I look at the forums, I look at what is "new", and that is what is below the stickies.  I almost never pay any attention to stickies because many rarely change.  I saw this by accident.  When you moved the "low fuel warning" one, I didn't even know what happened.

I wonder if I am alone?

No, you are not.  I occasionally look at the stickies, after looking at the other posts, if I remember they're there, and I have the time to spare.  You asked the same question I've been wondering  :yikes: ;).
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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 06:17:29 pm »
Ironically, I think "sticky" actually reduces attention/interest.

When I look at the forums, I look at what is "new", and that is what is below the stickies.  I almost never pay any attention to stickies because many rarely change.  I saw this by accident.  When you moved the "low fuel warning" one, I didn't even know what happened.

I wonder if I am alone?

You're not alone, Max.  All of us, for the most part, have C14's.

As far as stikying (sp?), I did it with this one because it was in danger of disappearing to page 2 and out of the immediate attention span of most us (myself included).  I sticky things to keep them on the first page for various reasons.   If there is enough traffic on a thread, it stays on the first page all by it's lonesome.  I didn't see the traffic so I stickied it. 

It really is amazing though, because it was getting close to gathering dust on page 2, I stickied it , and now look.  I sit vindicated! :P




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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 09:56:57 pm »
Attached is dyno run with 2012 full areap, PCV, Jamie's map, ZX14 TB's, stock air filter. Ran several runs switching between Chet's map above and Jamie's map. They were almost identical except the air/fuel ratio was a little higher with Chet's map through most of the rpm ranges but same peak hp and tq. This is with SAE correction, it is my understanding that it would be 161.2 if it was using the STD correction factor as in Chet's dyno run. The bike feels a little better in Chet's map, but in either map there are not any noticeable problems at all, no hesitations, no stumble's, power is smooth everywhere, as you can see in the pretty nice curves. With Chet's map though, eco mode is a little different story, it gets really great gas mileage, but noticable less power.
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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 09:20:55 am »
My bike is a 2011 C-14 with AreaP full, K&N filter, ZX-14 TBs w/ flies out and PCV w/ Autotune. I have tried the map posted by Silverdammit!!. That map seems too lean for my bike. Mostly down low with quite a bit of hesitation. I have fiddled with it some but, I'm not all that good at figuring out the fuel needs of the bike. I have seen others have posted that they have the same setup and are using other maps with good success. I'm hoping to get and try those other maps. Anybody care to share? Thanks

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 10:59:30 am »
I updated the second post to include the link for downloading the PCV App, which is needed to open the MAP file.  I have been getting quite a few requests for the MAP and as I have been busy riding I just haven't been around as much  ;D

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Re: MAP Sharing
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 08:42:32 pm »
Any one have Guhl's maps?  I am about to flash mine and am looking for opinions on options.  I am the epitome of the sport/tour in my riding style, so I'd really love to have a solid standard mode an a really efficient eco-mode.  Suggestions?

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