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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2013, 08:15:42 am »
Is that postable, or copyrighted material?

If it was in the magazine, it's protected, I think.  The magazine, from what I recall, is also available to COG members online so it could be postable but would violate something if it were put online.  I would not let it stand here, unfortunately.  What members do outside the forum is outside of our control.  Nuff said.
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2013, 08:31:23 am »
If it was in the magazine, it's protected, I think.  The magazine, from what I recall, is also available to COG members online so it could be postable but would violate something if it were put online.  I would not let it stand here, unfortunately.  What members do outside the forum is outside of our control.  Nuff said.
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2013, 09:20:54 am »
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2013, 12:35:29 pm »
Is that postable, or copyrighted material?

it is copywrited material.
cannot be posted without prior written consent of COG, or unless you are the original writer of the data...
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2013, 08:01:43 pm »
If something is in a magazine, you can paraphrase it.
My wish for the a good sticky would be a chart of suspension settings where for every 10 or 20 lbs of rider weight, there would be suggested settings for two or three goals/
Like, if you weigh 220, there would be settings for soft touring/all around/sport riding
Then, at 230 some slightly different numbers for the three types of riding. It would be much simpler to look up a chart like that than find a dealer to give money to who might or might not get it right.

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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2013, 04:24:46 am »
I have a related question to this. I have my setup pretty close to what I want it...it's just a tad soft in the faster corners. My problem is, how to i figure out whether the front or the back is too soft? 

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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2013, 05:11:58 am »
Knowing the bike as it is, my suspicion would be that the front is too soft..  The rear of the bike generally doesn't have any issues with being too soft.
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2013, 12:37:20 pm »
Have a look at this table of settings, it may be of some help.

http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=496


I have been going over this again, and see that the settings for front for preload is given as, "from all the way out." That can't be right based on the manual. The manual shows an adjustment range of 4mm~19mm, and that range is measured as the amount showing, not from all the way out. So, the chart shows the standard setting for a 150 Lb rider as 15 mm from all the way out, so that would then be 4 mm showing based on the adjustment range of 4 mm ~ 19 mm. That makes no sense since the standard setting is 14 mm showing. I guess you must be able to run the adjuster out farther than the acceptable range.

I have been on bikes for over 30 years and I have never seen a value for preload given as all the way out for the type of adjusters we have on the C14, it is always given as lines showing or a measurement of what is showing.

To get a value of 14 mm showing based on 15 mm from all the way out as the chart says, you would have to be able to run the adjuster all the way out to 29 mm showing.

I also see that the poster of the chart shows that he felt it best when set at 14 mm from all the way out and 3 clicks from all the way in. So the fork preload would be softer but it would have more rebound damping. While I can believe that may be the case, I do find it questionable.

Mine is currently set at 12.7 mm showing  I weight in at 160-165 depending on the day, and my wife is all of maybe 115. I was planning on increasing preload a bit today. The bike handles well but is harsh at times over the bumps. I cannot tell if this is because the preload it too high or if I am bottoming out. I will experiment more today.

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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2013, 06:55:42 pm »
You don't weigh enough...
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2013, 09:54:27 pm »
You don't weigh enough...

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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2013, 02:37:18 am »
Too much information... :_shudder_Emoticon
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2013, 05:01:48 am »
Too much information... :_shudder_Emoticon

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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2013, 05:17:35 am »
Must compensate for that huge muffler.
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Re: Suspension for the completely stupid
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2013, 05:49:46 am »
Must compensate for that huge muffler.

Maybe he could just 'spot reduce' on his right side? Oh wait, he'd never be able to lose enough to compensate without losing a leg...    ;)
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