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Offline Cholla

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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2013, 10:05:56 am »
I have to admit a fondness for the SR myself. Amazing what was designed with a slide rule. Even more amazing there isn't anything (?) more advanced today.
I'll be meeting up with an old friend tonight who used to wrench on the SR and U2.
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2013, 10:36:15 am »
Even more amazing there isn't anything (?) more advanced today.

(?) exactly!......or so they would have us believe.  :-X  8)

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« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2013, 04:58:58 pm »
When I was stationed at Hill AFB I learned to truly appreciate the F16.  Loved when someone important was around and they would do a "demo run".  :)
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2013, 06:55:23 pm »
When I was stationed at Hill AFB I learned to truly appreciate the F16.  Loved when someone important was around and they would do a "demo run".  :)


Those very F-16s you grew to appreciate still fly over my house on the way to the UTTR.  In fact, they've been conducting night training missions in the last week or so, and I heard a pair zoom overhead just a few minutes ago.  The F-4's had a more distinctive sound when they used to fly overhead, back when the 388th still had them, but the F-16s are cool too!

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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2013, 07:52:16 pm »
These threads always show the same dozen or so "favorite" aircraft.  That's OK, but MY favorite has always been the Grumman J2F Duck. 

https://www.google.com/#q=picture+of+grumman+duck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_J2F_Duck
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2013, 08:21:54 pm »
That's the whole point of this thread....Aircraft we like.
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2013, 04:30:34 pm »
I was this close to joining up and heading down to the Falklands when Argentina decided on their bit of mischief.  I think that I stayed glued to the tv the entire time.  What I don't understand is why GB did not use the Victors.  They were faster, had longer ranges, and carried more conventional bombs.

Thanks for providing the video, Charlie.  It gave me goose bumps.  I'm still watching it but I have to get some stuff done this morning...like work.


As I understand it the V bombers (Valiant / Vulcan / Victor) were designed at a time when SAM technology was poor and the mind set was if you flew high and fast nothing would hurt you................................you guys lost a U2 to a SAM in the Gary Powers incident.  Hence the SR71 a plane that was only publically acknowledged years after its first missions......................That loss of your U2 caused a major rethink of the British mutually assured destruction defence scenario with the government of the day buying Polaris.................................in the stop gap years before that system went live we had to defend ourselves so the low high low mission profile was employed with the V bombers.......................................The Valiant did not stand up to the massively increased airframe stress that low level flying brought and after a series of accidents the fleet was x-rayed and grounded after the main wing spares were found to have fatigue fractures.  You are correct Jim in saying that the Victor went faster / carried more further than the Vulcan but the Vulcan handled the low level work far better than Victor.  The early Victor fleet had already been converted to tankers so the Mk2's went the same way........................The Vulcans at the time of the Falkland's had already been scrapped and the planes were put back to service much to the delight of the public.  The Victors were still in service years later in the Gulf topping up allied planes.


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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2013, 05:32:34 pm »
Good answer!  Thanks!
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« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2013, 11:24:20 am »
The problem with the U2 was it flew high (70k ft) but not very fast. Top speed is 500 mph and cruise 375 mph.
The SR fixed that at 100k + and Mach 3+ and very stealthy.
But the SR has been retired and the U2 (TR-2) is still flying.
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« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2013, 12:01:02 pm »
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2013, 04:35:40 pm »
I just saw a reference to "the cornfield bomber" on TV and found this article.  Amazing story about a pilot who punched out and the aircraft that "landed itself".  I grew up close to an Air Force base that flew F-106's and when I was a kid I loved watching them scream over our house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber
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« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2013, 05:30:24 pm »
it's ok... SR-72 on it's way....  8)

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane

If the -71 was too expensive to operate the -72 most assuredly will be.
The big problem with the -71 is all the tooling to make parts was ordered destroyed while the craft were still in use.
Notice they say the -71 was put in service in '66? The planes were built in '61, as evidenced by their serial numbers.
I have a couple friends who were part of the U2 and SR program. They have some neat stories from their travels around the world with HABU.
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Re: Aircraft we like..
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2013, 05:46:15 pm »
Charlie, you'll never believe this but I stopped in an Antique store in Verona, Virginia after a job and came across a picture, fully framed, of the Avro Vulcan.  Couldn't believe it and now I have to find a place to hang it.  Course, this is also the area where I found an IBM synchronized clock...
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« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2013, 02:01:54 pm »
Charlie, you'll never believe this but I stopped in an Antique store in Verona, Virginia after a job and came across a picture, fully framed, of the Avro Vulcan.  Couldn't believe it and now I have to find a place to hang it.  Course, this is also the area where I found an IBM synchronized clock...

LOL.........................I'll email you some pictures of local sights when I get a day off.......................should put a smile on your faces....................what is the XH number of the plane in your picture Jim ?

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« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2013, 02:34:32 pm »
For Jim


Vulcan Bomber


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