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Offline Daytona_Mike

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2014, 11:12:08 am »
I can answer that- NO - but do it anyway.
Unhook the battery for two weeks and do not put it on a charger. Take  a voltage reading before and after.
How much did it drop in two weeks with one post disconnected and  no charger?
New batteries can be defective too. What new battery do you have and how new?
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2014, 03:04:24 pm »
I can answer that- NO - but do it anyway.
Unhook the battery for two weeks and do not put it on a charger. Take  a voltage reading before and after.
How much did it drop in two weeks with one post disconnected and  no charger?
New batteries can be defective too. What new battery do you have and how new?
Matt- Did you paint your bike yourself. It looks familiar.

Thanks Mike.  I do not know the maker of the current battery.  Although I do know that it is sealed.  The other one that went bad for being off the charger for awhile was not (that battery was only two years old).  Each experienced the same drain. 

Regarding the paint, I painted it myself.  I was told it looks a lot like another member; I think his name his Snarf.

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2014, 06:58:08 am »
Matt, I think there is a way to search for the culprit that is draining the battery.

Electrical guru's please correct me if I am wrong!!

"key off"
Remove the ground wire to the battery.
Place an inexpensive (harbor freight type) volt meter between the negative lead and the battery negative.
You should see 12 volts on the meter.
Disconnect the clock, (that will remove all power that is supposed to be on).
You should see 0 volts.
If you see volts,,,
   start pulling fuses and unplugging wires. ("1" at a time)
Eventually you will see the voltage drop to 0.
When that happens, you will know approx. where the drain is located.
Keep troubleshooting from there and you should find the drain.

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2014, 12:32:17 pm »
Matt, I think there is a way to search for the culprit that is draining the battery.

Electrical guru's please correct me if I am wrong!!

"key off"
Remove the ground wire to the battery.
Place an inexpensive (harbor freight type) volt meter between the negative lead and the battery negative.
You should see 12 volts on the meter.
Disconnect the clock, (that will remove all power that is supposed to be on).
You should see 0 volts.
If you see volts,,,
   start pulling fuses and unplugging wires. ("1" at a time)
Eventually you will see the voltage drop to 0.
When that happens, you will know approx. where the drain is located.
Keep troubleshooting from there and you should find the drain.

Ride safe, Ted

Correct procedure, except you are looking for current draw (amps), instead of volts.  Switch the meter to "ammeter" function and you'll be good.  Note:  Always connect ammeter in series.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2014, 11:15:39 pm »
Copy all guys.  Thanks!

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2014, 02:10:21 pm »
Nice tip. Thanks, Steve

I wired the ground wire on my '05 a little differently. Instead of cutting the black/yellow wire going to the igniter I "T-spliced" a piece of wire onto the original wire by soldering. Then ran that wire directly to the negative post on my battery. That way I accomplished the same thing you outlined in your video, only with fewer connections.

Your modification recommendation seems to improve throttle response and acceleration. Of course this is very subjective without dyno comparisons. But, as it is now, this leads me to believe that the ignition system as it comes from the factory is not as strong as it should be. If an ignition system will handle increased spark gaps, there is potentially some power there. Now, with a supposedly stronger spark I think I will increase the spark plug gap .005" plus the next time I have my gas tank off. I might even try a plug gap increase up to .020" to see what happens. If anyone would like to try this, give us a report. 

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2014, 08:07:53 am »
I will add that I see no good reason to increase spark plug gap any wider than factory spec and in fact keep mine on the narrow end of the spec... You will not see any notable increase in power and will only increase the chances of a spark not making the jump further down the road once the plugs begin to show signs of wear... Better to have a stong spark jumping a short gap than a weak spark not making the jump at all...
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2014, 07:18:02 am »
  Here ya go - Steve

Free Power for Concours ZG1000


Wanted to see this topic brought back to the top as it is a very good and simple way to improve the performance of these grand old bikes.....
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 03:06:02 pm »
Does this really work? I can't shake the feeling that it's just a quick fix that may improve an old bike where the wiring and contacts are just aged and not functioning as they did when the bike was still new. A cheat, instead of solving the real problems with an older bike.

I honestly do not know. Did anyone try this with a relative new bike? :)
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 03:56:50 pm »
Not a temporary fix.
As the bikes age, corrosion/resistance builds up on the wiring.
If your wiring is perfect, it could have the problem in the future...
This fix corrects that potential problem.
Well worth doing.

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Free power!
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2015, 07:50:24 am »
I tried it. Unfortunately at the same time as I cleaned my carbs, so I don't know for sure if there is improvement, but the bike seems to respond better to the throttle. :)
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2015, 02:48:10 pm »
parasitic drain test can also be done w a test lite.  the lite serves to indicate amperage/flow which is draining the battery.  disconnect circuits one at a time till no lite.  guage lite bulb was recommended but i have always used a turn signal/tail lite bulb w success.  same procedure as connie rider listed.
     this method should show .4 amp very easily, especially if you observe the light filament closely for any glow at all.  response to below post.
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2015, 01:07:04 pm »
Using a multimeter works better though. I recently had a power leak of 0,4A, holding a light between the battery and cable did nothing, but the meter did show a leak. (which I've managed to trace and fix. :) )
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Re: Free power!
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2015, 11:23:21 am »
Hi all - I finally decided to do this MOD to my Connie today, and lo and behold - the previous owner already did it! 

WELL... he did it half way.  The direct ground to the battery from the igniter pigtail was done, but the black/yellow wire was just cut and sitting there. No pigtail, not loop to accessories, no nothing...  I'm assuming it can't be that bad because I've put near 3500 miles on the bike  this summer?

I'm going to run a pigtail to the fender like Steve did, but I thought I'd share one of those wonderful discoveries you can only get with older, pre-owned bikes.

Sad part is I was hoping to get some better response from the bike because I'm not happy with it, but apparently, this IS better response. 


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Re: Free power!
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2015, 12:12:31 pm »
Sad part is I was hoping to get some better response from the bike because I'm not happy with it, but apparently, this IS better response.

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