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Offline sas mayhem

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EMULATORS
« on: June 11, 2011, 04:43:43 pm »
what is involved in installed them? Does it require a complete tear down of the forks? special tools? Just wondering so I can can get set up before they arrive.

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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 06:42:38 pm »
yes, basically a full tear down. You have to remove the damper rod and drill it out so it's non - functional. HTH, Steve

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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 07:10:18 pm »
How long does it take about. ... with no issues?
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 07:54:27 pm »
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 08:07:22 pm »
2-3 hours for the first, an additional hour for the second.

Tear down the forks to their component parts. You may need a damper rod holding tool. A 15/16" nut welded on the end of a 24" piece of 1/2" pipe will do. Some have luck with a large broomstick jammed into the top of the damper rod, I don't.

Drill three cross holes in the damper rod (it's actually a stubby tube), one of the holes is just enlarging the existing hole.

Reassemble, adding new fork seals and bushings if required. Since you have the forks apart, it's often wise to do them now  ;)

Drop the emulator down the tube, add/adjust oil level, install the fork spring. Keep in mind the emulator adds 1/2" to the spring height, so your preload adjust will be 1/2" higher "pre" emulator.

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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 02:39:35 am »
Thanks for the reply's, since I'm at it I might as well install drain holes too.

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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 03:48:03 pm »
I have mine in and the ride is a lot sharper than I want, so, I need to have less pre-load as I never touched the factory settings to decrease compression damping. I have the instructions at home but I'm at work now and was reading up on Race Tech's site. So I lessen pre-load by backing the bolt out of the body and tightening the jack nut? Any ideas how much?
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 05:06:32 pm »
I just got home from work and took off both forks, it was pretty straight forward.  Now I need to get to Lowes and get the tools that George R. Young mentioned in the above link.

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Ron

Strawboss what do you mean by "sharper"?
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2011, 06:07:10 pm »
Well I'm back and the dampeners are removed.  I was very surprised of the consistency of the fork oil, it was like very hot transmission fluid.  Very runny.  :-\

Well when I get home from work tomorrow there should be my Race Tech kit waiting for me.  :)

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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2011, 06:19:29 pm »
I have mine in and the ride is a lot sharper than I want, so, I need to have less pre-load as I never touched the factory settings to decrease compression damping. I have the instructions at home but I'm at work now and was reading up on Race Tech's site. So I lessen pre-load by backing the bolt out of the body and tightening the jack nut? Any ideas how much?

I found this too, Strawboss, this might answer you question.

also what is the best type of measuring device to put in the proper amount of fork oil?
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2011, 10:12:38 pm »
I mean the ride is harsh, much more harsh than what I'm hearing, my mirrors droop down on some sharp bumps and the fairing rattles. I measured the oil exactly 4 times and the distance from the top of the fork tubes. Factory settings with straight 15w oil. I went to the site and it looks like maybe 1.0 springs instead of the 1.1's I have and reduce the compression damping. Not sure. Going home tomorrow to read up.
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 10:30:17 pm »
Try loosening the preload on the emulator spring 1/2 turn. This makes a huge difference in  feel.  I've used emulators on several older forks and I feel like I've removed 1/2 turn on ever unit.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2011, 10:33:22 pm »
OK, I'll do it tomorrow and let you know on Wed what happens. Race Tech also said the emulators take up space and compress the springs a bit already.
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Re: EMULATORS
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 06:26:59 am »
I have emulators in both my bikes, and when you get them right they really help the compliance of the ride.I use 15 wt fork oil, set at 6" with the forks COMPRESSED and springs out. My emulators have 4 holes in the blow-off plate and blue springs with 2 turns preload. WAYYYY better than the stock emulator setup- Steve

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 06:27:05 pm »
My emulators have 4 holes in the blow-off plate and blue springs with 2 turns preload. WAYYYY better than the stock emulator setup- Steve

What color spring would one use,? Blue or yellow. And how much of a difference would it make?  I'm 220 lbs now on my way to 200ish.  Would that be a factor?

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Ron
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