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Offline JerBear

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Opinions please
« on: January 25, 2014, 07:27:05 am »
I prefer Gen1 bikes styling and otherwise.  I do not have ABS and would like to get one with it.  I found a 09 ABS (new) within 200 miles of me at a dealership.  I do not care for Black (too hard to keep clean and absorbs solar heat too much) but I could work with it if I got a great price.  What do you various owners think the best price is, approximately? :grouphug:
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Re: Opinions please
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 07:44:33 am »
Wow, a new '09? What was list in '09?
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 08:02:23 am »
I prefer Gen1 bikes styling and otherwise.

What is the "otherwise"?  The lack of heated grips?  The missing windshield memory?  The yucky red (non-white) dash lighting?  The non-existent computer grip switch and eco mode?  Worse drain pan?  More annoying mirror height?  Smaller/less effective windscreen?  No midpipe heat deflector?  Having less senors?  (Etc)

I mean, I can understand some people not linking linked brakes or having a color preference, and maybe the fairings (although I think the gen1 fairings are far less attractive)....   But otherwise (and cost/resale aside), I don't know why anyone would "prefer" a Gen1... over a Gen2 especially if given the option between a new 2009 and a new 2014.
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Re: Opinions please
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 08:07:05 am »
I prefer Gen1 bikes styling and otherwise.  I do not have ABS and would like to get one with it.  I found a 09 ABS (new) within 200 miles of me at a dealership.  I do not care for Black (too hard to keep clean and absorbs solar heat too much) but I could work with it if I got a great price.  What do you various owners think the best price is, approximately? :grouphug:

Geez, I dunno. $9999?

I had an 08 before my 2010, and I like the styling of both models;).
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 08:33:19 am »
What is the "otherwise"?  The lack of heated grips?  The missing windshield memory?  The yucky red (non-white) dash lighting?  The non-existent computer grip switch and eco mode?  Worse drain pan?  More annoying mirror height?  Smaller/less effective windscreen?  No midpipe heat deflector?  Having less senors?  (Etc)

I mean, I can understand some people not linking linked brakes or having a color preference, and maybe the fairings (although I think the gen1 fairings are far less attractive)....   But otherwise (and cost/resale aside), I don't know why anyone would "prefer" a Gen1... over a Gen2 especially if given the option between a new 2009 and a new 2014.

You got it, I don't want linked brakes, I do prefer the "lines" of the Gen1 fairing, I don't want or need windshield memory and prefer the smaller windscreen and have bought another one from a guy that didn't like his, heated grips are (for me) a seldom used luxury that I can install myself for 80 buck if I decide I need them and "ECO" is unneeded for me I don't slab.  The only upside (for me) on the Gen2 is the mirror placement and completely black seat but even that may get changed to a Corbin.  I am the type of guy that buys a bike and just keeps on riding it.  I maintain them and just drive.  I don't really care what the "next new thing" is if I'm happy with what I have but what I have did not come with ABS.  I want that but will not throw tons of money at it just to get it.

All I wanted was a few thoughts from other owners about what they thought a OTD cost would be before I contact the dealer.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 08:38:55 am »
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 08:42:34 am »
I tried to modify that an disappeared it instead.  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 09:06:58 am »
I tried to modify that an disappeared it instead.  :-\

I was wondering what was going on... I kept trying to find what he was referencing! :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 09:29:14 am »
I tried to modify that an disappeared it instead.  :-\

You want it back?  I can make the disappeared reappear.  I don't take plastic, only beer and shrubbery.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 09:29:24 am »
JB,
I bought my 09 ABS new for $10k as a leftover model in the Fall of 2010 when the 2011's were hitting the shops, so I'd think maybe $9K?  :-\


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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 09:29:58 am »
I was wondering what was going on... I kept trying to find what he was referencing! :)
A point by point rebuttal.... nothing earth shattering.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 04:32:37 pm »
I dont understand why a dealer has a five year old "new" bike.  I doubt the price will be good enough to justify the sale. Otherwise, they'd have sold it on 2010, 11, 12 or 13.   

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 08:16:20 pm »
Look up the NADA value on a used '09 concours because that is what it will be worth the moment you sign the paperwork.  Unless Kawasaki had some type of incentive to provide the dealer to sell it, or he picked it up at auction from a going out of business dealer, he will have to sell it below his cost to even move it out the door.  So unless he needs to free up some cash, he might as well keep it or part it out on ebay.  Check out Kawasaki's website to see if there are any incentives on this bike.

Good Luck, and ultimately if this is the bike you want and want to start with a new one then make your best deal and don't worry about what others would pay.

BTW: I would make him put new rubber on the wheels since they are now up to 5 years old.  Have him put new batteries in the TPS while he is changing the tires.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 08:42:21 pm »
Very good info
I would buy a used one with farkles that I would want to buy anyhow, I've seen some super deals between this site and the ... other  :grouphug:

Given the weather I would think It's let's make a deal time.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2014, 09:10:44 pm »
JerBear, by chance is the bike you are looking at at Ken's Sports in Kaukauna, WI?  I see they still have one on their website. 

For some reason (besides me owning one of course  ;) ) I also like the styling of the 08s and 09s more than the new ones.  There is a little too much swooping of the front fairing on the new ones for me, of course that's not to say I wouldn't get one if something unfortunate happened to my bike. 

As for this bike, I'd be curious the history.  I know in the past Ken's (of course assuming we are talking about the same bike) would get deals on old stock or demo units and for a while had 5+ different 08 demo bikes for sale.  I'd be a little leery about the bike sitting 5+ years, but if you can verify the 3 year warranty is good, its not as much of an issue. 

I would say if you are interested, call them and bring up that NADA average retail is $8875 http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles/2009/Kawasaki/ZG1400A9F-CONCOURS-14ABS-1352cc/Values and go from there.  If they want to deal, they will, if they want to hold to their asking price, look elsewhere. 
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