Author Topic: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge  (Read 18417 times)

Offline Pokey

  • Arena
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2487
  • Country: us
  • WESTERVILLE OHIO 'Twit"
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 10:01:05 pm »
road mine across the country and back... off-roaded it.....sold it  ;D





Boy that was set up nice, you regret selling it at all?
2006 DL1000  2006 SV650
08 C14 "gone"

"All we have to do is decide what to do with the time given to us". Gandalf the Grey

Offline Scaffolder

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 882
  • Country: us
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 08:52:34 am »
I still like this as one of my favorites in this segment.
Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/stelvio-1200-ntx.html
And the Triumph Explorer XC 1200
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes/tiger/2014/tiger-explorer-xc
Joel from Maine.

Offline wally_games

  • Arena
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 713
  • Country: us
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2014, 11:23:28 am »
I still like this as one of my favorites in this segment.
Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/stelvio-1200-ntx.html
And the Triumph Explorer XC 1200
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes/tiger/2014/tiger-explorer-xc


The MG has an 8.5 gal tank.

I've looked at the Explorer XC. If it just didn't come in the olive drab color, I'd really be interested. The non-XC version might do what I need.
'14 BMW 1200 GSw (red, what little there is that's not grey)
'11 Concours ABS (black) w/ Leo Vince carbon, heated Corbin, Garmin; TechSpec pads (gone but not forgotten)
'05 Yamaha FZ6, only crashed once, gone in trade; '87 Honda Gold Wing Aspencade, sold; '85 Honda Magna (700), sold; '76 Kawasaki KZ400, sold

Offline manowarwi

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 181
  • Country: 00
    • Midwest Sport Riders
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2014, 08:28:32 pm »
KTM 1190  <---95% onroad

KTM 1190 R  <---more offroad




I sat on one of these at the international bike show earlier this year and spent some time giving it a careful once-over and one area that didn't impress me was the factory hard bags.  Basically plastic with a sheet of metal over it to give the rugged look.  There were a bunch of little dents in them just from having people get on and off the bike.  The mounting clips looked to be cheap plastic too - not what you'd expect for an adventure style bike.  I asked the salesperson about it and he admitted they are weak and his response was basically "well, you can always bungee it on the back if one falls off;"  Granted, that has nothing to do with the mechanics or performance of the bikes - but to me it raises a red flag if KTM is willing to cheap out in this area. 
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly

2014 Triumph Tiger Explorer XC
2008 Concours - Gone but not forgotten

Offline stevewfl

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4268
  • Country: 00
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2014, 10:59:21 pm »

Boy that was set up nice, you regret selling it at all?

No sir, no regrets. I'm glad our friend Mike (Bugnuts) bought it instead of a stranger.  He did a wrap on it and it looks awesome!
“The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” St. Augustine

Offline stevewfl

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4268
  • Country: 00
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 11:12:13 pm »
I sat on one of these at the international bike show earlier this year and spent some time giving it a careful once-over and one area that didn't impress me was the factory hard bags.  Basically plastic with a sheet of metal over it to give the rugged look.  There were a bunch of little dents in them just from having people get on and off the bike.  The mounting clips looked to be cheap plastic too - not what you'd expect for an adventure style bike.  I asked the salesperson about it and he admitted they are weak and his response was basically "well, you can always bungee it on the back if one falls off;"  Granted, that has nothing to do with the mechanics or performance of the bikes - but to me it raises a red flag if KTM is willing to cheap out in this area.


Anywhere KTM can cut down weight they can.  Scratches, that'll happen to any cases after the first fall.  KTM spent a lot to make the bike as light as possible.  You can get as heavy duty panniers as you like for this bike (Jessie's, Touratech, etc same makers that make the after market GS1200 stuff) but they'll weigh a ton.  Performance wise I bet the KTM bags with metal only where needed will win. 

Here is the Jessies system for the KTM, the strongest panniers made but weigh as much as a tank!



“The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” St. Augustine

Offline Pokey

  • Arena
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2487
  • Country: us
  • WESTERVILLE OHIO 'Twit"
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2014, 10:40:40 am »
Jesse system is hardcore as is Happy Trails, I have the Happy Trails system and it is awesome.
2006 DL1000  2006 SV650
08 C14 "gone"

"All we have to do is decide what to do with the time given to us". Gandalf the Grey

Son of Pappy

  • Guest
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 08:24:30 am »






Offline twowheeladdict

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1198
  • Country: 00
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2014, 07:23:38 am »
Awesome photos SOP. 
My Concours Travels:
2014 New England Tour http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17336.msg212077#msg212077

Offline TJ

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 227
  • Country: us
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2014, 09:37:43 am »
I bought a Tiger 800 XC last year and still have my 2012 Concours. If I had to sell one of the bikes it would be the Concours. The Tiger is the most fun I had on two wheels in decades. Tons of power, fantastic fuel mileage and very comfortable outside of a hard seat. Only problem is you will end up spending a couple of grand on farkles.
2012 Black Kawasaki Concours

Offline texrider

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Country: 00
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2014, 02:57:26 pm »
I bought a Tiger 800 XC last year and still have my 2012 Concours. If I had to sell one of the bikes it would be the Concours. The Tiger is the most fun I had on two wheels in decades. Tons of power, fantastic fuel mileage and very comfortable outside of a hard seat. Only problem is you will end up spending a couple of grand on farkles.

I've read several positive reviews of both 800 Tigers. What percentage use would you say yours sees the highway, vs secondary and backroads?
Also, does the suspension seem adequate to run fast over the rough and loaded? Thanks.
2014 Valkyrie

Offline Strawboss

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 601
  • Country: us
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2014, 05:45:26 pm »
In keeping with the OP comments I'd say the 650 V-Strom at least for me, dealer support for Triumph, KTM, BMW would keep me from buying one as the nearest dealers are miles away. Great motor, great accessories, lots of accessories, lots of dealers, not too big, not too small, more than enough power, great price on the bike and maintaining it too. Mostly street, maybe some packed dirt.
COG 5852-AMA Life 302525-NRA 9098599-SASS
2001 Concours-1982 KZ550A-1979 Triumph Bonneville-1995 Honda SA50

Offline wally_games

  • Arena
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 713
  • Country: us
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2014, 06:05:58 pm »
Thanks for the comments, guys. I'm still debating, but I think after riding it and reading everything that I can find, the KTM has come off my list. Also, since I'm going to be doing a lot more road/highway riding than offroad, I want to stick with one of the larger displacement bikes.

I'm now debating between the 2014 BMW GS and the 2013 Triumph Explorer. I like both bikes from a "sitting in the showroom" standpoint. I've ridden the BMW, but won't get a chance to ride the Triumph until next weekend when I can get to the dealer again.

The deal currently running on the Triumph would get me a lot of extra equipment for about $15,500 OTD. The BMW would be well over $20,000 with the add-ons I'm looking at. So, right now it's more of a money decision than a bike decision. I think I could be happy on either one.
'14 BMW 1200 GSw (red, what little there is that's not grey)
'11 Concours ABS (black) w/ Leo Vince carbon, heated Corbin, Garmin; TechSpec pads (gone but not forgotten)
'05 Yamaha FZ6, only crashed once, gone in trade; '87 Honda Gold Wing Aspencade, sold; '85 Honda Magna (700), sold; '76 Kawasaki KZ400, sold

Offline twowheeladdict

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1198
  • Country: 00
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2014, 07:06:11 pm »
Now that Yamaha is adding electronic cruise control, it is on my short list.  The Super Tenere just fit me better than the Explorer and I was only leaning toward the explorer because of the electronic cruise.  I will ride the Concours on my New England tour and then decide if I want to sell it and the Versys and replace both with the Super Tenere.
My Concours Travels:
2014 New England Tour http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17336.msg212077#msg212077

Offline Pokey

  • Arena
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2487
  • Country: us
  • WESTERVILLE OHIO 'Twit"
Re: Which DS, if I were to take the plunge
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2014, 07:10:21 pm »
Now that Yamaha is adding electronic cruise control, it is on my short list.  The Super Tenere just fit me better than the Explorer and I was only leaning toward the explorer because of the electronic cruise.  I will ride the Concours on my New England tour and then decide if I want to sell it and the Versys and replace both with the Super Tenere.


Sweet sweet machine, hope that Yamaha can start selling more of them, cannot understand why they have not sold better. :(
2006 DL1000  2006 SV650
08 C14 "gone"

"All we have to do is decide what to do with the time given to us". Gandalf the Grey