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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #585 on: January 29, 2015, 05:48:50 pm »
Swoyo95, thank you very much for that link (centerstand grab handle). But now that I have the bags off (probably 95% of the time), the bag mount is the perfect handle. Whenever I have the bags, will just keep using the bottom of the passenger peg mount (with gloves), since it serves the purpose well. Don't like adding crap and weight unless absolutely necessary. But thanks a million anyway.



Would you like me to show you how to put this machine up on it's center stand?  :rotflmao:

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #586 on: January 29, 2015, 05:56:57 pm »
Would you like me to show you how to put this machine up on it's center stand?  :rotflmao:

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #587 on: January 29, 2015, 06:03:20 pm »
Would you like me to show you how to put this machine up on it's center stand?  :rotflmao:
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #588 on: January 29, 2015, 06:04:59 pm »
Cycle world Dyno results, C14-134/144HP,wo/w ram air induced...   ZXR-192HP, looks like around 50+ rear wheel difference to me.  Just sayin'....  My C14 is plenty fast for me, but I still would like to ride a ZXR.

 
C14 crank HP:
Max Power     114 kW / 155 hp @ 8800 rpm
Max Power Ram Air   118.4 kW /161 hp @ 8800 rpm

ZXR crank HP
Max Power   140 kW / 190 hp @ 9500 rpm
Max Power  Ram Air   147.2 kW / 200 hp @ 9500 rpm
Did they say how they arrived at the ram air numbers?
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #589 on: January 29, 2015, 06:19:23 pm »
Something about a large volume fan forcing air into the intakes during tests.  Guess that's about as close as one could get.  tp
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #590 on: January 29, 2015, 06:21:43 pm »
Don't kid yourself. Hate to "jack" a thread, but the new R model has 30 more HP than the previous generation, and the earlier model had 20 more horses at least over the Connie.
That's a solid 50 HP more, and a solid 150 LBS less. Game over. The ZX14R will blow your mind.
Don't mean to start a fire, But as I said before, it's a totally different game.


My Connie is no slouch, and my ZX14R is an absolute starship. Traction control kicks in through 3rd gear, shortshifting to avoid wheelspin and wheelies. If You're dumb enough to keep twisting the loud handle, it will punish you.
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #591 on: January 29, 2015, 08:17:30 pm »
Hate to "jack" a thread,....

Yeah me too, but it happens....

...case in point: jimmymac, why do you have an air impact wrench strapped to your garage door?...ballast?  ???

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #592 on: January 29, 2015, 08:23:47 pm »
Yeah me too, but it happens....

...case in point: jimmymac, why do you have an air impact wrench strapped to your garage door?...ballast?  ???
Isn't that one of those new fangled anti gravity impact guns?
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #593 on: January 29, 2015, 08:29:45 pm »
Don't kid yourself. Hate to "jack" a thread, but the new R model has 30 more HP than the previous generation, and the earlier model had 20 more horses at least over the Connie.
That's a solid 50 HP more, and a solid 150 LBS less. Game over. The ZX14R will blow your mind.
Don't mean to start a fire, But as I said before, it's a totally different game.


My Connie is no slouch, and my ZX14R is an absolute starship. Traction control kicks in through 3rd gear, shortshifting to avoid wheelspin and wheelies. If You're dumb enough to keep twisting the loud handle, it will punish you.



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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #594 on: January 29, 2015, 09:06:53 pm »
Tool box was full?
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #595 on: January 29, 2015, 11:32:03 pm »
Would you like me to show you how to put this machine up on it's center stand?
If you're built like Serena Williams, maybe ;D. Otherwise, I can do it just fine. Seriously, not designing a built-in handle to put a heavy bike on its center-stand was a glaring omission. But saying to use the passenger grab handle for that purpose was just lame IMO. All my previous sport-tourers had both. But again, not a big deal at all, especially without the bags. No bike is perfect, so we always have to put up with annoyances, no matter the machine. Another thing I noticed is you have to lift the rear quite a bit more on this bike than my previous ones, where the rear tire barely cleared the ground. This one clears it by more than an inch, so it requires more effort. Have a great evening.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #596 on: January 29, 2015, 11:42:39 pm »
Don't mean to start a fire, But as I said before, it's a totally different game.
Looks like you want to start a fire. Ha ha. First of all, according to Kawasaki's site, the ZX14 is 591 lbs, vs 688 for the C14, which without bags (to compare apples to apples), would be 660 lbs, so only 69 lbs heavier, not 150. And the HP is 40 at best, and with a peakier power curve. Now, the current liter superbikes are 150 lbs lighter than yours (including the ZX10R), and with the same HP, they'd make your ZX feel like a minivan. Ha ha. Just messing with you man. Not that drastic difference, but a big difference nonetheless. Bottom line is your ZX is fast, but not the rocket you think it is. Ride a BMW S1000RR (or any other 200HP literbike), and find out for yourself. Now back to our regular subject ;D.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #597 on: January 30, 2015, 12:03:36 am »
There is more to power and performance than just peak HP and weight, which do not describe the total power curve (although the are the two most important).  Just saying (and not directed at anyone in particular).

Now back to our regular subject ;D.

Is there one?  As far as this almost 600 post thread goes, there really is no regular subject.
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #598 on: January 30, 2015, 12:54:41 am »
mmmm shaft drive is a total hp whore... chain drive produces hp on a dyno.   put loaded bags on a zx, and a shaft... it'll be in the rearview mirror.
zx is no slouch. just saying.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #599 on: January 30, 2015, 01:00:45 am »
Is there one?  As far as this almost 600 post thread goes, there really is no regular subject.
Thank you; didn't want to get in trouble ;D. I've ridden basically all sport bikes, and owned a Hayabusa (direct competitor of the ZX14), and they don't excel at anything other than straight-line performance IMO (and that's why the great majority of drag-racers use and modify those 2 bikes for that purpose). They're pigs at near 600 lbs, have much less cornering clearance than sportbikes, and are equally uncomfortable, so what's their appeal? I wanted to find out, but sold the Busa quickly after buying it. Yes, I got it up to 190 indicated a couple of times, but that was the end of its appeal to me ;). The Connie and other SPORT-tourers have pretty much the same cornering clearance, are more comfortable, have bags, more comfort features, and are plenty fast. So if I had twisties around, I'd go straight for a ZX10 (or similar), and keep the Connie. And you're absolutely right about being more to just peak HP. At the power levels of the C14, the great majority of motorcycle riders can probably launch the Connie faster than a ZX14 due to its extra weight and wheelbase, which help put power to the ground much easier. And the same is true between a ZX14 and a literbike. To launch a literbike hard you really have to know what you're doing. Even with traction and stability control (much easier with those), it's still tricky. But to each his own. At any rate, I'm done with that kind of thing, so maybe this guy is much younger than us ;D. I still ride fast and hard, but no reckless crap anymore. And can't take the punishment of those kinds of bikes anymore either. Take care.