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Offline maxtog

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3330 on: April 24, 2019, 07:19:53 pm »
9 Years and you haven't replaced the air filter!!!  wow, talk about deferred maintenance.

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I know.... don't ask me how long before I finally replaced the brake/clutch fluids...  Things haven't gone quite according to my plans.  At least I have changed the oil/oil filter and differential oil regularly (and the brake pads).
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3331 on: April 25, 2019, 04:30:27 pm »
Well I got the rest of the plastic off and changed the coolant, re-installed the secondary flies so I can get a SISF flash and got the vacuum lines on for the throttle body adjust attached.  WHAT A B***H that 2nd port required me to stand on my head, shine a flashlight with my right foot and pull the old cover off with both hands!  I am SOOOO glad I never have to do that again.  I really believe that mama Kaw never wanted us to even attempt this :o the way it was designed.....

I'm really looking forward to the actual adjustment especially the center adjustment screw :doh:
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3332 on: April 25, 2019, 04:57:31 pm »
Well I got the rest of the plastic off and changed the coolant, re-installed the secondary flies so I can get a SISF flash and got the vacuum lines on for the throttle body adjust attached.  WHAT A B***H that 2nd port required me to stand on my head, shine a flashlight with my right foot and pull the old cover off with both hands!  I am SOOOO glad I never have to do that again.  I really believe that mama Kaw never wanted us to even attempt this :o the way it was designed.....

I'm really looking forward to the actual adjustment especially the center adjustment screw :doh:

I am curious if it needs adjustment.  My memory is not good, but of the few posts I remember reading about the results of performing a throttle body sync, nobody has ever found them to be enough out of sync to need adjusting.  We probably should have thrown up a poll about it (what mileage, did it need adjustment or not).  I vaguely remember the procedure on my ZRX with my friend using some kind of vacuum mercury gauge and it never needed adjustment on that bike either (and that was a pretty old tech at this point, even had carbs).  I suppose if you have the tools and time (and the manual does call for it), and have everything apart (especially when checking valve lash) it is worth doing just to make sure things the throttles are not out of sync.  Do let us know what happens with yours :)
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3333 on: April 26, 2019, 08:01:58 am »
Yesterday,

finished cleaning, greasing and adjusting steering stem bearings.

Installed a duel USB port and auxiliary lights on fork brackets.
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3334 on: April 26, 2019, 08:18:51 am »
I made some attempts to get the center adjustment screws before I bothered with vac attachment ports. I had everything off for valve adjustment and cleaning the fuel filter. I decided I could not/would not do it. Close to 60,000 and runs pretty sweet.
Wayne


I am curious if it needs adjustment.  My memory is not good, but of the few posts I remember reading about the results of performing a throttle body sync, nobody has ever found them to be enough out of sync to need adjusting.  We probably should have thrown up a poll about it (what mileage, did it need adjustment or not).  I vaguely remember the procedure on my ZRX with my friend using some kind of vacuum mercury gauge and it never needed adjustment on that bike either (and that was a pretty old tech at this point, even had carbs).  I suppose if you have the tools and time (and the manual does call for it), and have everything apart (especially when checking valve lash) it is worth doing just to make sure things the throttles are not out of sync.  Do let us know what happens with yours :)
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3335 on: April 26, 2019, 01:41:11 pm »
I made some attempts to get the center adjustment screws before I bothered with vac attachment ports. I had everything off for valve adjustment and cleaning the fuel filter. I decided I could not/would not do it. Close to 60,000 and runs pretty sweet.

You didn't do the valve check, the throttle sync, or both?
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3336 on: April 26, 2019, 01:51:46 pm »
I did the valves. A couple were out of spec but I moved all of them closer to the upper range. Took the rad out and flushed. Check filter again but it was fairly new at the time. That synch though, no way.

You didn't do the valve check, the throttle sync, or both?
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3337 on: April 28, 2019, 06:40:30 am »
I am curious if it needs adjustment.  My memory is not good, but of the few posts I remember reading about the results of performing a throttle body sync, nobody has ever found them to be enough out of sync to need adjusting.  We probably should have thrown up a poll about it (what mileage, did it need adjustment or not).  I vaguely remember the procedure on my ZRX with my friend using some kind of vacuum mercury gauge and it never needed adjustment on that bike either (and that was a pretty old tech at this point, even had carbs).  I suppose if you have the tools and time (and the manual does call for it), and have everything apart (especially when checking valve lash) it is worth doing just to make sure things the throttles are not out of sync.  Do let us know what happens with yours :)

Yeah I get what you're saying but to me, it's like getting a colonoscopy.  Not something I look forward to but knowing it's done and all clear is a weight lifted off.  I may be weird  :o but I actually like working on my bike and knowing it was done right.  Fred Harmon's videos make it so much easier to accomplish I have a manual but they are visual and the pictures in the Kaw manual don't work well for me. 

My engine was (at times) surging at idle and it was bugging me to get the TB Synch checked.  If you look at his videos there was quite a difference about 10-15 between bank one (cyl 1-2) and bank two (cyl 3-4)  and about ten between 1 &2 and ten between 3 & 4 respectively.  IDK that it make a huge difference but I'm going to give it a try and for what I have invested in it, it's less than half the cost of  what the dealership would have charged me to rubber-stamp it as "fine"

As far as comparing this procedure to the valve check,  Not even close especially in time needed.  I had my bike torn apart for several day as I couldn't work full time on it and just getting the correct shim sizes was darn near impossible.  I had to wait for them to come and then, somehow (Brainfart) the inboard #4 cyl intake valve was wayyyyyy off upon reassemble so off goes that cam and all its allocated fasteners just to remeasure one stinking valve!  getting that chain to match the marks and stay in position was an absolute nightmare (for me).

If you can do a valve adjustment you can do this too!
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3338 on: April 28, 2019, 07:48:15 am »
I didn't have trouble with the chain but did have the cams out twice. Nerve racking job for me.
 Getting to those inner screws looked to tough. Good luck.
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3339 on: April 30, 2019, 01:18:37 pm »
Fabbed my own backrest stalk out of inch and a half by quarter inch flat stock. Sits low and back on the Sargent seat just like the Corbin setup. AND now I can open my 47L Givi all the way without removing it :)
Already threaded, just a minor adjustment and some paint. Comfort approved on the center stand by momma. I can post some photos if anyone would be interested.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3340 on: April 30, 2019, 04:16:43 pm »
Fabbed my own backrest stalk out of inch and a half by quarter inch flat stock. Sits low and back on the Sargent seat just like the Corbin setup. AND now I can open my 47L Givi all the way without removing it :)
Already threaded, just a minor adjustment and some paint. Comfort approved on the center stand by momma. I can post some photos if anyone would be interested.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3341 on: May 01, 2019, 06:49:27 pm »
Running into issues posting photos. Wrong format? Stupid phone.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3342 on: May 01, 2019, 10:11:03 pm »
Running into issues posting photos. Wrong format? Stupid phone.

Almost all photos are stored as JPEG/JPG.   You are probably trying to upload some HUGE resolution, which is not necessary and often not allowed (because of wasting too much space).  Just scale down (resize) the photographs' resolutions to 2MP or 1080 pixels wide before uploading.  Or change the resolution of the camera on your phone to something lower before taking the photo(s).
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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3343 on: May 02, 2019, 06:09:58 am »
Running into issues posting photos. Wrong format? Stupid phone.

If you can't reduce the pic size on your phone, try installing the free "Send Reduce" app.  It works great for me.

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Re: What did you do to your Concours today?
« Reply #3344 on: May 02, 2019, 08:23:11 am »
Thanks fellas.
Here's a couple shots. Phil's rack sitting all the way back on Phil's rails (fantastic vendor). I have a shot of just the 2 stalks side-by-side, ast version vs bolas custom version, but they are on the iPhone and I don't feel like taking it off again.
Hindsight, I should have bought any similar backrest pad and made everything else myself. My stalk may not be perfect (took about 2 hours to make with grinder, hf 12 ton press, drill and appropriate tap), but I could have at least matched the build quality of the mount plate, if not exceeded it with the same tools I used for the stalk and saved myself $100. The mount plate is not symmetrical side-to-side and the overcuts in the corners from the handheld die grinder are clearly visible under the powder coat. Oh well.
Had to use an android to take and send pictures. I don't care for Apple products, for some reason my 2nd hand free old iphone isn't jiving with your site.
Don't have a real computer to fix the pix.
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