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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2015, 03:49:36 pm »
I'm confused what the saying "ride like a girl" means?
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 03:50:44 pm »
While I have never ridden with S_c, nor have I seen her ride, from her postings I would venture to say that she is more competent than the average rider. Male or female.  Just a hunch...

Over the years I have ridden with a bunch of different folks, young, old, male, female, whatever. It has been my experience that the majority of the females seem to be more "wooden" and cautious to the point of being dangerous. I can't say if it was lack of experience or lack of situational comfort or what, but it was there. I've seen it in some males too, just far fewer times. I have also ridden with women that were skilled to the point "OMG! That girl can RIDE!" I wishI ccould spend more riders like that, male or female. They make me a better rider.

I have no clue what the balance of nature vs nurture is in one's inclination and or ability when it comes to motorcycles but I'm sure there is a bit of both. For whatever reason, there is disproportionately lower number of females actively involved in motorsports and that sucks.

Motorsports and equestrian events are, as far as I can tell, the only sports venues where men and women can compete on a level playing field. Why more women aren't driving and or riding at a professional level is a question I can't answer. If I had a daughter and she had the desire and aptitude to ride a motorcycle, I would do whatever I could to encourage her and facilitate her toward her goals.

For right or for wrong, we all know what was meant by "ride like a girl." Face it, more often than not, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Think Harley rider and what image pops in to your head?  And mor often than not, you'd be right. Think yacht owner. Yep, probably right again. It just is what it is....
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 04:13:43 pm »
Jimmy, thank you, but no apologies necessary. I work in an very ego driven, male dominated environment, so I see and hear it all. 
I have to agree with deziner on his well written post. Stereotypes are what they are and unfortunately the women always seem to get the bad wrap.
I'm pleased with deziner and his speculation of my riding skills and would like to say that I feel that I am a very competent and experienced rider. My dad had me on a mini-bike when I was 9 and I have seemed to be on a bike most of my life. Of course there were periods of time when family and kids didn't allow me to do so. But now I'm divorced and kids are grown and moved away. So gentlemen, keep an eye in your mirror's for that pink and black flash that will go by.  ;D

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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 04:42:09 pm »
This brings up other thoughts regarding gender,  or rather the parts of our anatomy that separate us. Let me see if I can express this correctly...
So when someone does something crazy, they seemed to be referred to as having big balls, correct?  But if someone was to do something weak or not up to par, then they are referred to as being a p*ssy. So how come it is then, that a p*ssy can take a good pounding, but a meer flick of a finger on the balls will bring him right down and out of order. 
Just sayin!

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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 04:44:41 pm »
This brings up other thoughts regarding gender,  or rather the parts of our anatomy that separate us. Let me see if I can express this correctly...
So when someone does something crazy, they seemed to be referred to as having big balls, correct?  But if someone was to do something weak or not up to par, then they are referred to as being a p*ssy. So how come it is then, that a p*ssy can take a good pounding, but a meer flick of a finger on the balls will bring him right down and out of order. 
Just sayin!
lol! Good stuff!
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2015, 05:01:22 pm »
I have to agree with deziner on his well written post. Stereotypes are what they are and unfortunately the women always seem to get the bad wrap.

Actually, that is not true.  Men have just as many inaccurate or unfair negative stereotypes....   Being unfaithful, unable to concentrate, not willing or able to clean/cook/sew/whatever, being generally reckless, being rude, having no memory, being unable to commit, being consumed by sports, unable to talk about feelings, etc, etc.

Yes, most stereotypes are based on accurate generalities...  but individuals in any stereotyped group should not feel limited by the box they might feel placed in.  At least, I hope not.  Some stereotypes are, indeed, funny (when used carefully and appropriately)... and although I try to be respectful, I don't want to be overly PC either.

I, for one, have no question in my mind you are a better rider than I am.  And I am not ashamed to say it in public, either.  But I will keep trying to be better :)
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2015, 05:03:27 pm »
So when someone does something crazy, they seemed to be referred to as having big balls, correct?

Not correct if you are asking me.  I think that is crude, disgusting, inaccurate, and sexist.  What they have is "guts".  Works so much better.
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2015, 05:33:54 pm »
Actually, that is not true.  Men have just as many inaccurate or unfair negative stereotypes....   Being unfaithful, unable to concentrate, not willing or able to clean/cook/sew/whatever, being generally reckless, being rude, having no memory, being unable to commit, being consumed by sports, unable to talk about feelings, etc, etc.

Yes, most stereotypes are based on accurate generalities...  but individuals in any stereotyped group should not feel limited by the box they might feel placed in.  At least, I hope not.  Some stereotypes are, indeed, funny (when used carefully and appropriately)... and although I try to be respectful, I don't want to be overly PC either.

I, for one, have no question in my mind you are a better rider than I am.  And I am not ashamed to say it in public, either.  But I will keep trying to be better :)

I have two of those....unable to concentrate and no memory.  But then again, I grew up in the early 70's.
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2015, 05:42:46 pm »
Max,  I hope I didn't come across as being a better rider than someone else. I was simply trying to portray that I can hold my own when it comes to riding.

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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2015, 05:47:43 pm »
Case in point...just lost my beer.  It's around here somewhere.  Found it.  Oh my, it's empty.  Time for another as I listen/watch Neil Young:  Heart of Gold live at the Ryman in 2006.
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2015, 05:54:51 pm »
This brings up other thoughts regarding gender,  or rather the parts of our anatomy that separate us. Let me see if I can express this correctly...
So when someone does something crazy, they seemed to be referred to as having big balls, correct?  But if someone was to do something weak or not up to par, then they are referred to as being a p*ssy. So how come it is then, that a p*ssy can take a good pounding, but a meer flick of a finger on the balls will bring him right down and out of order. 
Just sayin!

...and if this turns into gender based pissin contest who do you think has the advantage.  :rotflmao:
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 05:56:25 pm »
My forgetter is the most highly functional part of whats left of my brain.
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 05:58:16 pm »
...and if this turns into gender based pissin contest who do you think has the advantage.  :rotflmao:

That depends on the condition of your prostate..... ::)
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 06:32:08 pm »
Before this gets out of hand (easy boys) and I get too 'happy' let's watch where we're going here and what this thread was really about..the eco indicator on the C14.

Jim, it's winter and all the ADHD or what ever the government is now referring to the average American male, are going crazy from not being able to watch the ECO Indicator  go on and off as they ride, mainly OFF.  Sailor_chic at least gets to go out to sea and do something other than stare at the TV and wait for Spring.  I live in Texas, but would enjoy being in FLA, just to ride with Nicole.  After 46 years on motorcycles, I bet I could still learn from her skills...

FWIW, I always have wondered why ladies can't race with the men in Supercross, etc.  Given the chance, I'll bet they could be very competitive with the likes of Tomac, Short, Reed, etc.  All look alike with the gear on and a FF helmet.  Women can be very aggressive,   my ex wife is a perfect example.  She has  never seen or acknowledged anything ECO, except for my spending limits. . .tp
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Re: Women of Concours
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2015, 06:53:09 pm »
Let's go riding tomp!  Speaking of riding, on my small bucket list is riding to Texas and go camp for a couple of nights in Big Bend national park. From what I've read, it's beautiful.

And no, I didn't want to start any kind of contests about the superior gender. It was just a thought that I had about the anatomy that I shared. As it was brought up,  it is winter....