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Offline gonzosc1

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2011, 06:58:30 pm »
OK stupido here I understand everything but the front fork preload. How and where is this measured as per the manual??? The reference to all the way out is fu$$ing me up. Not in line with the manual....Simple is what simple does should have went to College more years. Anyway help please.

in the little owners manual, page 195, simple.  righty tighty(in),
lefty loosey(out), 

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2011, 07:59:05 am »
OK stupido here I understand everything but the front fork preload. How and where is this measured as per the manual??? The reference to all the way out is fu$$ing me up. Not in line with the manual....Simple is what simple does should have went to College more years. Anyway help please.

Yes, the 'all the way out' reference to the front pre-load in the chart attached to this thread messed my brain up too. I think all you need to do is just measure from the top of the nut where you put your wrench to the base. If you are 14mm, you are at stock. Then just wrench it in or out depending on what you want and measure. I counted the number of lines showing on both side to kind of make sure I got them both at the same measurement.

Honestly, I did like the stock front setting (14mm preload and 5 clicks dampening) and the rear at 20 clicks from all the way out. But wife hated it. She got a hurt back and the bumps were too pronounced. I eased the rear back to 16 clicks and she is happy. But the ride is not as sure footed as before. Guess I will have to get used to it.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2011, 08:06:15 am »
Yes, the 'all the way out' reference to the front pre-load in the chart attached to this thread messed my brain up too. I think all you need to do is just measure from the top of the nut where you put your wrench to the base. If you are 14mm, you are at stock. Then just wrench it in or out depending on what you want and measure. I counted the number of lines showing on both side to kind of make sure I got them both at the same measurement.

Honestly, I did like the stock front setting (14mm preload and 5 clicks dampening) and the rear at 20 clicks from all the way out. But wife hated it. She got a hurt back and the bumps were too pronounced. I eased the rear back to 16 clicks and she is happy. But the ride is not as sure footed as before. Guess I will have to get used to it.

The measurement is actually from the top of the adjusting nut to the top of the nut below it.  Not to the base.  There is a picture in the manual that shows this clearly.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2011, 08:17:46 am »
The measurement is actually from the top of the adjusting nut to the top of the nut below it.  Not to the base.  There is a picture in the manual that shows this clearly.

You are correct. By base, I meant the base of the nut where you put your wrench, but it could be misleading. The owner's manual shows it clearly.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2011, 07:11:45 pm »
Good to be back. I got lost during the Web site transition. Looks like I'm starting over with 0 posts. I'm a newbie again

After reading through this thread and having my Friday beer, I want to thank everyone who has contributed here.  A most excellent thread indeed.   :chugbeer:
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2011, 09:02:18 am »
This worksheet did wonders for my two up riding feel.
I used the two up setting 2 and it was awesome.
Stopped at a weigh station and topped out at 1100 lbs fully loaded, two up with all gear.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2011, 08:57:20 pm »
New to the site and wanted to say what's up. Was looking for information on C14 suspension settings and this site popped up. Like what I've been reading and think I'll stay a while.

I changed my settings based on the PDF, will let you know how it feels in the morning.

Any 14 riders in Lancaster?
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #82 on: August 31, 2011, 10:38:39 pm »
New to the site and wanted to say what's up. Was looking for information on C14 suspension settings and this site popped up. Like what I've been reading and think I'll stay a while.

I changed my settings based on the PDF, will let you know how it feels in the morning.

Any 14 riders in Lancaster?

Which Lancaster?

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2011, 10:40:33 pm »
He's talking California.....on his profile.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2011, 07:01:45 am »
Dough!!  Sorry about that, Yes Lancaster, California
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2011, 10:59:14 am »
Height 5'11
Weight 230
Man, after the selected changes it felt like I rode in on a new bike this morning. It's a short 30 min ride with very few curves, but the curves I did take I paid close attention to my turn in and how the bike was reacting.

Before the change the bike would run wide and i had to really strongarm it to hold the line, and on roll-ons I could feel it squatting as I rollded on the throttle. Now after the change

Front 16MM up top and 3 clicks out from full in.
Rear 25 clicks in from full out and 1.5 turns out from full in.

My connie falls into the curve and holds the line without me forcing it to.
Suspension feels solid and firm rolling down the road, the plushy feel is gone but i prefer to have the solid feeling when I'm in the twisties.
The roll on squat was minimal, and the rush of power is almost immediate.

Heading out o Malibu this weekend and will continue to pay attention on the handling and let you know if I made additional adjustments.

Hope this helps other riders over 150 pounds (he he).
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2011, 07:38:54 pm »
I remember this from the old site I think it was based on 190lb rider. I have used these settings been very pleased.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #87 on: September 02, 2011, 02:12:00 pm »
Height 5'11
Weight 230
Man, after the selected changes it felt like I rode in on a new bike this morning. It's a short 30 min ride with very few curves, but the curves I did take I paid close attention to my turn in and how the bike was reacting.

Before the change the bike would run wide and i had to really strongarm it to hold the line, and on roll-ons I could feel it squatting as I rollded on the throttle. Now after the change

Front 16MM up top and 3 clicks out from full in.
Rear 25 clicks in from full out and 1.5 turns out from full in.

My connie falls into the curve and holds the line without me forcing it to.
Suspension feels solid and firm rolling down the road, the plushy feel is gone but i prefer to have the solid feeling when I'm in the twisties.
The roll on squat was minimal, and the rush of power is almost immediate.

Heading out o Malibu this weekend and will continue to pay attention on the handling and let you know if I made additional adjustments.

Hope this helps other riders over 150 pounds (he he).

16mm's on front preload???? and your 230lbs.
 just doesn't sound right, but if it works what the hell.  8)   it just caught my eye cuz factory setup is 14mm for 150lb person. I'm 180lbs with front preload set at 10mm.  factory setting was way to mushy with very heavy nose dive under braking.  now our rear setting are close together
 

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2011, 09:46:05 pm »
IRISH, I am 5'10' 44 and at 150# the heaviest I have ever been. I have had 3 C10's and ridden thousands of miles, solo snd 2up, never had an issue handling my bikes. This is my first C14. I have about 600 miles solo and 300 miles 2up no problems so far. Always said I would rather be skinny than overweight!!

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2011, 11:04:47 am »
I'll recheck that tonight, maybe I made a mistake...Thanks for the follow-up.
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