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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2011, 04:34:36 pm »
I've got it.....gain 50lbs and use the two-up settings.

That's the settings I use.....

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2011, 04:58:19 pm »
I understand these are Japanese bikes, and they tend to be a tad lighter than we are, but 150lbs? As a mature, adult male, the only way you should weigh 150lbs is if you have a tumor, or are 5'7" or less. I would suggest 180-200lbs would be the average for a male riding a 688lb bike in our fantastic country. I didn't include women, because it would hurt my fragile ego to see a female riding the bike that I treasure so...sexist? yes. Honest? yes. Go Irish!

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2011, 08:08:35 pm »
I understand these are Japanese bikes, and they tend to be a tad lighter than we are, but 150lbs? As a mature, adult male, the only way you should weigh 150lbs is if you have a tumor, or are 5'7" or less. I would suggest 180-200lbs would be the average for a male riding a 688lb bike in our fantastic country. I didn't include women, because it would hurt my fragile ego to see a female riding the bike that I treasure so...sexist? yes. Honest? yes. Go Irish!

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2011, 04:01:19 am »
     Some of the old timers can probably remember who came up with this chart.  It seems like the guy said he was around 185.  I'm thinking if you're a little heavier, it would mostly be just a preload adjustment. (?)  Folks with more knowledge feel free to share please!

     For me, I really noticed a difference on bumpy curves; it now is much easier to hold the line, but you do lose a little comfort in the process.  Good luck and happy riding folks. ;)

It was Dan from Richmond, Va I believe.  I've used them and have had pretty good results.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2011, 08:21:29 am »
It was Dan from Richmond, Va I believe.  I've used them and have had pretty good results.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2011, 08:37:38 am »
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2011, 10:35:40 am »
Not sure if this has been posted yet from the old site.  This was very helpful for me and will hopefully help someone else.  The difference in handling from the stock setup was drastic.......in a good way!

at some point in the past forum I printed out this doc but never got around the issue and my suspension settings are what I got from the day I bought the bike.
Could somebody explain what the clicks are, and how do you read it? Please make it dumb-proof, plain dictionary-available English...  ;D
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2011, 11:10:59 am »
As you turn the adjusters you will feel them 'detent' (not to be confused with Detente).  In other words, you'll feel it more than hear it.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2011, 12:04:03 pm »
at some point in the past forum I printed out this doc but never got around the issue and my suspension settings are what I got from the day I bought the bike.
Could somebody explain what the clicks are, and how do you read it? Please make it dumb-proof, plain dictionary-available English...  ;D

And if your not sure you felt or heard a click, turn it the opposite direction to confirm(it's alot easier to feel and hear for some reason).
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2011, 01:40:38 pm »
Did anyone ever post a chart on this?

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2011, 01:44:13 pm »
Did anyone ever post a chart on this?

See the first post
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2011, 11:56:38 pm »
As you turn the adjusters you will feel them 'detent' (not to be confused with Detente).  In other words, you'll feel it more than hear it.

Thanks Jim!
now more questions:
1. Front forks - spring preload: when it says "14 mm from all the way out", what do the mm mean?
2. Rear shock - spring preload: when it says "6 clicks from all the way in", it means that first I have to rotate it clockwise (in) all the way, and then rotate 6 clicks counterclockwise (out?
3. Rear shock - rebound damping: when it says "1 turn", it means 180° or 360°?
4. last but not least: what is the sag?
Please, if you think that I am an utter ignorant in these things and need to be babied... you're right!  :-[
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2011, 12:00:52 am »
Suspension is where its at.

If you're even the least uncomfortable your local track tuner will hook you up for 30-50 bux and its the best mod you can do as far as real performance (beyond holding a throttle wide open and going straight)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2011, 05:34:26 am »
Thanks Jim!
now more questions:
1. Front forks - spring preload: when it says "14 mm from all the way out", what do the mm mean?
2. Rear shock - spring preload: when it says "6 clicks from all the way in", it means that first I have to rotate it clockwise (in) all the way, and then rotate 6 clicks counterclockwise (out?
3. Rear shock - rebound damping: when it says "1 turn", it means 180° or 360°?
4. last but not least: what is the sag?
Please, if you think that I am an utter ignorant in these things and need to be babied... you're right!  :-[

mm is from that new fangled measurement system, perhaps you've heard of it? The metric system?  ;)

mm = millimeters
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2011, 05:47:58 am »
Rear shock rebound damping - 1 turn....

One turn is turning the screw 360 degrees from start so if you mark a point on the screw and in relation to where it is in the housing and turn either way 360 degree you'll wind up at the same point again.  You can also relate it to minute positions on a clock.  A quarter turn would be 15, half turn 30, 3/4 turn 45, full turn 60.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2011, 05:59:40 am »
Sag - Screen Actors Guild or what happens when you get older....

Oh, we're talking MC here...

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2011, 06:23:42 am »
mm is from that new fangled measurement system, perhaps you've heard of it? The metric system?  ;)

mm = millimeters

Yeah, right, tell that NASA. They have been using it unofficially since the end of the eighties, and officially (finally!) since the '90s. Even the UK dropped that nonsense a long while ago.
I still find it amusing that you guys measure time in plain "seconds" and not something like "shiwanas"...  ;)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2011, 08:24:48 pm »
I think there may be some confusion on the fork side of the chart. The preload is specified in mm, but at the top of the column it is labeled (from all the way OUT).  Measuring from all the way out would  give  a different measurement that simply measuring how much preload is on the spring, relative to the fork cap, as the owners manual shows.

If you follow the wording in the chart, 16mm preload from "all the way out" would actually be more preload than the 11mm figure.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2011, 09:58:11 am »
Hi,

Sorry for being off the main topic : anybody having an after-market shocks on '10-'11 Connie ??

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