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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2011, 01:44:13 pm »
Did anyone ever post a chart on this?

See the first post
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2011, 01:47:10 pm »

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2011, 11:56:38 pm »
As you turn the adjusters you will feel them 'detent' (not to be confused with Detente).  In other words, you'll feel it more than hear it.

Thanks Jim!
now more questions:
1. Front forks - spring preload: when it says "14 mm from all the way out", what do the mm mean?
2. Rear shock - spring preload: when it says "6 clicks from all the way in", it means that first I have to rotate it clockwise (in) all the way, and then rotate 6 clicks counterclockwise (out?
3. Rear shock - rebound damping: when it says "1 turn", it means 180° or 360°?
4. last but not least: what is the sag?
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2011, 12:00:52 am »
Suspension is where its at.

If you're even the least uncomfortable your local track tuner will hook you up for 30-50 bux and its the best mod you can do as far as real performance (beyond holding a throttle wide open and going straight)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2011, 05:34:26 am »
Thanks Jim!
now more questions:
1. Front forks - spring preload: when it says "14 mm from all the way out", what do the mm mean?
2. Rear shock - spring preload: when it says "6 clicks from all the way in", it means that first I have to rotate it clockwise (in) all the way, and then rotate 6 clicks counterclockwise (out?
3. Rear shock - rebound damping: when it says "1 turn", it means 180° or 360°?
4. last but not least: what is the sag?
Please, if you think that I am an utter ignorant in these things and need to be babied... you're right!  :-[

mm is from that new fangled measurement system, perhaps you've heard of it? The metric system?  ;)

mm = millimeters
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2011, 05:47:58 am »
Rear shock rebound damping - 1 turn....

One turn is turning the screw 360 degrees from start so if you mark a point on the screw and in relation to where it is in the housing and turn either way 360 degree you'll wind up at the same point again.  You can also relate it to minute positions on a clock.  A quarter turn would be 15, half turn 30, 3/4 turn 45, full turn 60.
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2011, 05:59:40 am »
Sag - Screen Actors Guild or what happens when you get older....

Oh, we're talking MC here...

Motorcycle Suspension - Setting Sag
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2011, 06:23:42 am »
mm is from that new fangled measurement system, perhaps you've heard of it? The metric system?  ;)

mm = millimeters

Yeah, right, tell that NASA. They have been using it unofficially since the end of the eighties, and officially (finally!) since the '90s. Even the UK dropped that nonsense a long while ago.
I still find it amusing that you guys measure time in plain "seconds" and not something like "shiwanas"...  ;)
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2011, 08:24:48 pm »
I think there may be some confusion on the fork side of the chart. The preload is specified in mm, but at the top of the column it is labeled (from all the way OUT).  Measuring from all the way out would  give  a different measurement that simply measuring how much preload is on the spring, relative to the fork cap, as the owners manual shows.

If you follow the wording in the chart, 16mm preload from "all the way out" would actually be more preload than the 11mm figure.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2011, 09:58:11 am »
Hi,

Sorry for being off the main topic : anybody having an after-market shocks on '10-'11 Connie ??

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2011, 12:02:50 pm »
I think there may be some confusion on the fork side of the chart. The preload is specified in mm, but at the top of the column it is labeled (from all the way OUT).  Measuring from all the way out would  give  a different measurement that simply measuring how much preload is on the spring, relative to the fork cap, as the owners manual shows.

If you follow the wording in the chart, 16mm preload from "all the way out" would actually be more preload than the 11mm figure.


I agree with you RC - I think that the wording is screwy
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 12:41:10 pm »
Dis ain't rocket science pholks! There are simple well documented steps to setting suspension. Yes! you can do this yourself with 2 or 3 tools and one person helping you.

Would the board collectively like a how-to thread with those who know helping those who need?

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2011, 05:49:40 am »
Dis ain't rocket science pholks! There are simple well documented steps to setting suspension. Yes! you can do this yourself with 2 or 3 tools and one person helping you.

Would the board collectively like a how-to thread with those who know helping those who need?

Yes
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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2011, 10:25:01 am »
Ditto.

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Re: Concours 14 suspension setup
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2011, 03:30:55 pm »
I posted this spread sheet a couple of years ago. I weigh 215 lbs loaded with gear and my wife is 130 LBS. I prefer my suspension a little more on the stiff side rather than soft. I actually went to a professional to have the sag and base dampening set up. The dampening settings are also set up for aggressive riding. A lot of trial and error went into fine tuning these settings, but you will probably want to make some minor adjustments depending on your weight.

Not sure if this has been posted yet from the old site.  This was very helpful for me and will hopefully help someone else.  The difference in handling from the stock setup was drastic.......in a good way!
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