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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2016, 03:10:11 pm »
Was it fixed on Ma Kaw's dime or did you have an extended warranty in effect?

So, Kawasaki offered to replace the $1300 ABS pump for free out of warranty labor included, and they even told the dealership to refund my diagnostic fee.


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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2016, 03:53:41 pm »
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2016, 04:04:26 pm »
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2016, 06:00:47 pm »
That was my experience too BigEd, as you may have read on the Australian forum. 

What now needs to be done is to report the issue to your national vehicle safety authority, in the interest of other riders and road users.   


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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2016, 07:43:36 pm »
That was my experience too BigEd, as you may have read on the Australian forum. 

What now needs to be done is to report the issue to your national vehicle safety authority, in the interest of other riders and road users.   


Please note my comments towards the end of reply 17 & 20.

Noted and done.  I still have yet to hear from the NHTSA, though.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2016, 10:15:12 pm »
Thank you sir.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2016, 02:44:43 pm »
just answered this question on other forum about parts interchange...

differences between 08-09 and 2010 abs parts...

they do differ,
wheel rotor sensor differs also, that's where the signal comes from in pulses being sensed...
08 front is. 21007-0068   ROTOR,SENSOR,FR
16082-0023   PUMP-ASSY-OIL,WET TYPE

21007-0069   ROTOR,SENSOR,RR
21176-0076   SENSOR,SPEED,RR


2010 is
21007-0140   ROTOR,SENSOR,FR
16082-0041   PUMP-ASSY-OIL,WET TYPE
21007-0141   ROTOR,SENSOR,RR
21176-0131   SENSOR,SPEED,RR

hope this helps, maybe a sticky is in order to preserve this?

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2016, 05:57:19 am »
What's involved in replacing the ABS pump and time?
It think mine has gone out, NO movement on rear brake lever totally froze.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2016, 08:54:02 am »
Check with your Kawasaki dealership before you tear into it your self.  They have still been replacing them at no cost to the owner. 

It's also the ABS pump that they replace, and that's not cheap, somewhere to the tune of $800+ if bought from Kawi.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2016, 07:58:08 pm »
Ron, read the thread and links the do as BigEd suggests.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2016, 01:24:23 am »
Sorry for hashing up an old thread...
I got same symptoms, sticky back brake peddle,  bled the rear brake, worked fine for about a month, sticky again,  removed rear master cylinder, cleaned out some debris inside, seals look great and work good, put back together and nothing, yes, Nothing....
Have plenty of fluid in reservoir, which goes to master cylinder, but have no fluid at brake caliper even with 20 lb pressure on mitivac (even left it on 22lb pressure all night)  bled the master cylinder, lets see.....hmmmm   3 hrs!!!  still nothing.....
 
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2016, 05:43:37 am »
Sorry for hashing up an old thread...

There is nothing to be sorry for.  It is almost always preferable to post to an existing thread than to create a new,  duplicate one.
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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2016, 04:42:29 pm »
Sorry for hashing up an old thread...
I got same symptoms, sticky back brake peddle,  bled the rear brake, worked fine for about a month, sticky again,  removed rear master cylinder, cleaned out some debris inside, seals look great and work good, put back together and nothing, yes, Nothing....
Have plenty of fluid in reservoir, which goes to master cylinder, but have no fluid at brake caliper even with 20 lb pressure on mitivac (even left it on 22lb pressure all night)  bled the master cylinder, lets see.....hmmmm   3 hrs!!!  still nothing.....

Didn't see it mentioned, but did you remove and clean the rear calipers? If not, might be a good thing....
Suck a little of the fluid out of the master cylinder to drop its level a bit, and pry the pistons on the caliper to push fluid back up into the master cylinder, this should dislodge any air, and possible debris and pshit upwards, and after that you should be able to develope pressure in the line actuating the pedel. Then continue bleeding in a normal manner. Sounds like an air bubble is cavitating in that assembly, and preventing a good piston seal, resulting in a bubble blockage so to speak.

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2016, 08:09:53 pm »
Do we have any documentation on what years are involved with these issues? From what I have read is its 08 mostly and only rear brake problems. My 08 has rear an ABS issue as well.

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Re: Rear Brake/ABS Pump issue
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2016, 08:24:28 pm »
Do we have any documentation on what years are involved with these issues? From what I have read is its 08 mostly and only rear brake problems. My 08 has rear an ABS issue as well.

It would help if all people put their model years in their signatures, taglines, or avatar areas....

It looks to me like it might be 08 and 09... which is gen1, which is a different system than the gen2's ABS.
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