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I rode in 114 degree heat
« on: July 30, 2016, 01:03:23 pm »
Drove 8 hours to Vegas. It was 100 by lunch, was around around 109 for  last four hours of trip. I was getting woozy, had ice chest in trunk with cold water and would stop every hour. I wanted to go to the Pinball Hall of Fame, but doing that would mean spending 30 min in stop and go traffic in rush time on freeway- no way!
Left the next morning for Phoenix. Was pretty good until I got near phoenix. My iPhone overheated and wouldn't work so I had to rely on directions written on my arm.
My temp display wavered between 111 and 114. I picked up wife at airport, went to motel. Too $*$*$ hot!
Next we went to zoo, temp hit 106- yeah, it's cooled down!
Went to see Dodgers play D backs following day.
The next day, was on way to airport when tire pressure light came on near my motel. There was one shop open that Monday and they had my tire (in a non GT version though), 40 miles away. Geico towed but the driver refused to tow on flat bed unless I removed fairing plastic. Ugh!
That night, went to a restaurant and was stranded there , they had no power too.
A microburst struck. This is a shot of it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/07/19/watch-this-incredible-microburst-come-crashing-down-over-phoenix/
No way I was going to ride in high winds, heavy rain and flooded road!
Next day, went to Truth or Consequences for the hot springs.
Made it back last sat.
I drove about 2800 miles on this trip and most of it was with temp gauge pegged two bars from overheat level, doing 80-90.
Despite that and a total of 5000 miles on this oil,, the level of oil in the bike is the same as it was when I filled it.
I now have a PR4 GT front and PR4 regular back tire and can say that the regular tire has a smoother ride.
I set up my bike for a softer ride and before anyone says I'm a wimp, try riding in triple digits for hours like I did!
I noticed that when it was above 110, my right leg got real hot from the exhaust (I have a '11 C14). Also, the handle bar levers would get real hot too.
On the way back passing through Flagstaff, the temp dropped from 103 to 49 when I drove through horrible rain storm and saws hail on the ground.

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2016, 07:35:24 pm »
Every ride is an adventure.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 08:28:49 pm »
Drove 8 hours to Vegas. It was 100 by lunch, was around around 109 for  last four hours of trip. I was getting woozy, had ice chest in trunk with cold water and would stop every hour. I wanted to go to the Pinball Hall of Fame, but doing that would mean spending 30 min in stop and go traffic in rush time on freeway- no way!
Left the next morning for Phoenix. Was pretty good until I got near phoenix. My iPhone overheated and wouldn't work so I had to rely on directions written on my arm.
My temp display wavered between 111 and 114. I picked up wife at airport, went to motel. Too $*$*$ hot!
Next we went to zoo, temp hit 106- yeah, it's cooled down!
Went to see Dodgers play D backs following day.
The next day, was on way to airport when tire pressure light came on near my motel. There was one shop open that Monday and they had my tire (in a non GT version though), 40 miles away. Geico towed but the driver refused to tow on flat bed unless I removed fairing plastic. Ugh!
That night, went to a restaurant and was stranded there , they had no power too.
A microburst struck. This is a shot of it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/07/19/watch-this-incredible-microburst-come-crashing-down-over-phoenix/
No way I was going to ride in high winds, heavy rain and flooded road!
Next day, went to Truth or Consequences for the hot springs.
Made it back last sat.
I drove about 2800 miles on this trip and most of it was with temp gauge pegged two bars from overheat level, doing 80-90.
Despite that and a total of 5000 miles on this oil,, the level of oil in the bike is the same as it was when I filled it.
I now have a PR4 GT front and PR4 regular back tire and can say that the regular tire has a smoother ride.
I set up my bike for a softer ride and before anyone says I'm a wimp, try riding in triple digits for hours like I did!
I noticed that when it was above 110, my right leg got real hot from the exhaust (I have a '11 C14). Also, the handle bar levers would get real hot too.
On the way back passing through Flagstaff, the temp dropped from 103 to 49 when I drove through horrible rain storm and saws hail on the ground.

I have had both the PR4GT and non-GT now. IMHO the PR4 (nonGT) is my favorite all time tire with the 55 aspect rear.

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 06:15:31 am »

What caused the rear tire failure?  A nail?

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2016, 06:53:09 am »
Holy **** that's an awesome picture! Looks like the end of the world. Thanks for posting.



Do you not travel with sticky rope tire plugs and a small compressor for emergencies?
« Last Edit: August 01, 2016, 04:50:07 am by Conrad »
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2016, 03:51:05 pm »
Just got back from a weekend trip to Vegas myself. Was about 112 when I left on Thursday afternoon. Nice ride except for the microburst I had to ride through South and West of Kingman. Lightning so close to the road that there was virtually zero time between the flash and the thunder. Bodacious wind too.

The ride between Vegas and Phoenix is one of my favorites. Enough 2 lane areas to really get after it in the passing areas and also areas with nearly unlimited visibility so you can ride as fast you have the stones to ride.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 09:53:56 pm »
I had a tire repair kit but couldn't find it! I didn't find it until after taking the seat off to get my tool bag.
As it is, I don't think it would help. I put some seal and air in it to help get it back to my motel from the ghetto. The stuff leaked out of what looked like a inch wide cut. i think someone at the motel cut it, it was on the center stand, light flashed as soon as the the tps kicked in. It was right in the middle of the tread going across and with traveling to NM, wouldn't trust a plug in that large cut. From the time I left to the flat, don't recall running over anything that would cause it.
I had good time, those high temps really sap me though.
Vegas... I hate vegas! In traffic, temp can be 115. People are loaded, they have bike deaths on a daily basis (I live in N.NV).  Local shop manager was a wrench for suzuki in Vegas in the '90's and said the heat would kill the oil cooled zukes and those HD police bikes don't make it past 50k miles without needing new rings.

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2016, 06:20:23 am »
So, what kind of gear are you wearing in that kind of heat?

I have a mesh jacket which all the experts say is the wrong thing to wear when it gets over 93-95 degrees so I'm keeping an eye out for something else. Not sure what to get though, pretty sure I want sleeve vents and back vents but other than that I need some advice about what to look for in a 95-105 degree jacket. Plenty of advice around, you know the kind "I've only owned one jacket in my life here in (insert somewhere up north here) but brand X is the best one!" OH really?!.....But I wouldn't mind hearing some advice from those that actually ride in the real heat in other than mesh jackets. Anybody?

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2016, 06:39:30 am »
I've done a lot of hot riding here in TX but I don't think I've seen 114 while moving on the bike. For about a week my 18 mile ride home from work was in triple digits every day and the high was 106. It only really sucks when stopped at a light and zero air is coming through my mesh jacket and Shoei GT Air helmet. Like GP said, every ride is an adventure.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2016, 07:42:16 am »
I ride in temps over 100 all the time. I wear a Heat Out shirt and a mash jacket with armor.

I think dealing with really high temps is more about acclimation and hydration than anything else. For me, the acclimation comes with the mortgage payments. It gets gradually warmer here until we reach what I refer to as "Stupid Hot". (Anything over 115°). Hydration is the REAL key.

If I am going to be riding more than about 100 miles, I start hydrating at least 24 hours ahead of my departure time. I will drink a bottle of Pedialite with as much water as I can possibly consume. I add a couple of ounces of Pedialite to a bottle of water to make it easier to down and drink a LOT. Did I mention consuming  a LOT of water? At speed, in high temps, you don't notice how much you are sweating because it evaporates so quickly. At least here in the desert you don't notice the sweat.

I also have a 2 liter water bladder in my tank bag that I keep filled with ice and water. I drink about a liter of water every 100 miles while riding. I stop for fuel about every 200 miles and drink at least a liter of water before I get back on the road after fueling. If you don't have to pee when you stop for fuel, you are DEHYDRATING! DRINK MORE WATER!

Seriously, it can be the difference between safe travels and a trip to the ER.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2016, 07:44:45 am »
must replenish electrolytes as well as water
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2016, 01:11:05 pm »
I had a soft cooler full of ice and little water bottles, gatorade and 20 year old ginseng extract (for endurance). Yeah, my arms were dry but when I was in line at the hotel desk they were dripping.
FWIW, each time you see the overheat sign on your phone, your battery is permanently partially damaged. My battery on my iphone 5s was crap before the trip, but now only takes 20 minutes to go from 100% charged to 60%.
I initially thought that my nine hour trip from Kingman AZ to Carson City, NV would be crazy, what with Vegas expecting 114 degrees. I did, by leaving early, 7:00. Passed through Vegas at 8:30am when it was still a cool 95 degrees, made it home ok.
I traveled with shorts/t-shirt squid style in the heat, would it be better to travel as I usually do- cordura riding pants, cordura touring coat?Maybe toss in some thin bamboo fabric pants?

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2016, 01:19:49 pm »
"20 year old ginseng extract"?

Couldn't find any fresh stuff?    ;)
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2016, 09:42:36 pm »
I  saw 120 for several days of   riding out west a few years ago  on my way to a COG national rally.  Do not wear mesh. That is the worst thing you can wear. You have to keep the hot air away and off your skin.
 Go buy an  LD long sleeve T- shirt - not the short sleeve (call them and ask for advice on how to ride in hot weather- see post below )
stop every 200 miles to re-soak the shirt. It will take 4 bottles of water to soak the shirt (yes it can hold that much water) and make sure you have a jacket with very little venting (not mesh) so you can keep that cool air (created from evaporation) next your body. The shirt will be dry by 200 miles. Stop and re- soak the shirt (4 more bottles).    Always wear a hydropack (3 liter preferably)   

http://ldcomfort.com/dryline-long-sleeve-turtleneck-top.html

Read:  http://ldcomfort.com/Frequently-Asked-Questions.html

I have no affiliation other than using their advice.
Having good gear means using the same jacket/pants from 120 degrees to 20 degrees (just add or subtract layers underneath your good gear).
This same gear is also your  rain gear so your always ready  for that surprise rain burst- no stopping to put on rain gear and then stopping again to take it off.     

There is no such thing as bad weather-- just bad gear.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2016, 06:05:16 am »
^^^ What jacket are you using with the LD base layer?
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