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Offline Hooligan

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2016, 06:44:34 am »
114Deg F = 45Deg C...... sounds like an average Summers day around the Karoo Area of the RSA. I did a 553 mile trip in the same heat last December through the Karoo. Feeling your pain Bud....

It can get just as cold there as well in the winter. -10Deg C = 14Deg F. Fortunately we are far away enough from the poles, with an altitude low enough, not to have the snowfalls, etc. you guys have in the States. We do get some snow, but merely a few inches each year.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2016, 10:51:27 am »

 Go buy an  LD long sleeve T- shirt - not the short sleeve ...........and make sure you have a jacket with very little venting (not mesh) so you can keep that cool air (created from evaporation) next your body.
http://ldcomfort.com/dryline-long-sleeve-turtleneck-top.html

Read:  http://ldcomfort.com/Frequently-Asked-Questions.html

I have no affiliation other than using their advice.
Having good gear means using the same jacket/pants from 120 degrees to 20 degrees (just add or subtract layers underneath your good gear).
This same gear is also your  rain gear so your always ready  for that surprise rain burst- no stopping to put on rain gear and then stopping again to take it off.     

There is no such thing as bad weather-- just bad gear.



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^^^ What jacket are you using with the LD base layer?


Yeah, so Mike, what is the good gear that you wear with your LD undergarment soaked with water and works from 20 -120 degrees?

I read the links you provided, and it seems the key element is to get some venting at the sleeve cuffs, first off I'd have to get rid of my mesh gauntlet gloves and replace them with short gloves but then what?..... just leave the cuffs open as much as possible and hope a bee doesn't go up in there? I've seen the scoop things that are relatively new (to me anyway), but the LD document/cooling process seems like it's been around awhile and doesn't seem dependent on those.




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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2016, 12:39:16 pm »
I used to have quite a bit of different gear but tossed it all out when I bought  AD1 Motorcycle Pants by   AeroStich . I got them for $187 new  (COG gift cards help)  and they are worn on every ride/trip. If it is very hot I only wear light shorts or just LD gear riding shorts underneath and even though AD1 pants  are  completely waterproof they are much cooler to wear than mesh  or jeans because of the ability to control venting and the built in armor keeps the material away and  off your skin.
My jacket is a Darien  Areostich I bought off Fleabay used .  After many years and many long trips it is showing its age ( but still wearable for many more years)
so I just recently bought a KLIM BADLANDS PRO jacket off ebay for a  great price. (they dont make that model anymore)  http://tinyurl.com/jxodk7w

All of the above are 'shells' and are designed to go over clothing (or when it is hot- self wicking - Long distance riding gear like LD gear)

I used to have all kinds of gear- Mesh gear  and rain gear- one piece rain gear and two piece rain gear - I had two  Joe Rocket Alter Ego jackets Version one and two ( you needed a lot of patience to learn how to zip and unzip  all those parts - very complicated stuff)  and several versions of pants- mesh- winter....
ALL of that crap  went in the garbage- a waste of money. 
Dont do what I did. Learn from my mistakes and  in the long run you will save money and get rid of all that aggravation and time spent packing and carrying all the crap i used to bring with me, . I swore never to never stop on the side of the road to change  into rain gear again. I hated that.
Just buy one pair of good pants and one good jacket and that is it!  It will last most if not all of your life!  All your rain gear and armor and winter / summer  jackets and pants  in just  two garments. That is the goal.
 
« Last Edit: August 02, 2016, 01:37:40 pm by Daytona_Mike »
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2016, 05:31:46 pm »
I ride in vehicles with AC when it gets that hot, heck 90+ is enough for me not to ride, especially if it may involve stop and go.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2016, 06:41:39 am »
I ride in vehicles with AC when it gets that hot, heck 90+ is enough for me not to ride, especially if it may involve stop and go.

If I did that, I wouldn't be riding much here in Texas.

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2016, 08:55:41 am »
Here in Phoenix, we average nearly 170 days per year over 90 and over 100 of those are over 100.
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2016, 09:12:36 am »
When I lived in CO I would ride all winter as long as the roads were dry. Now that I live in Texas, I ride all summer. I've ridden a lot of miles at both ends of the temp spectrum and I can say I'd rather ride in 112 then 7. According the the temp on the C14, I've done both.

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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2016, 05:09:30 pm »
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Re: I rode in 114 degree heat
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2016, 11:32:45 am »
Go buy an  LD long sleeve T- shirt - not the short sleeve (call them and ask for advice on how to ride in hot weather- see post below )
stop every 200 miles to re-soak the shirt. It will take 4 bottles of water to soak the shirt (yes it can hold that much water) and make sure you have a jacket with very little venting (not mesh) so you can keep that cool air (created from evaporation) next your body. The shirt will be dry by 200 miles. Stop and re- soak the shirt (4 more bottles).   
http://ldcomfort.com/dryline-long-sleeve-turtleneck-top.html

Read:  http://ldcomfort.com/Frequently-Asked-Questions.html


I did some experimenting on a recent trip in the mid to upper 90s.  First , using an LD long sleeve mock zipper top shirt soaked in water under a mesh jacket is cool for almost two hours. The technique that their website says to use (wetting only the sleeves and letting air in the cuffs) doesn't work for me on my C14 because I just do not get any (enough) air pressure on my cuffs. I was using shorty gloves and I even tried those Ventz thingies using an outer shell over the mesh as recommended. (I was using a Tourmaster Jacket and since the armor is in the mesh portion, I was unable {un-willing} to use just the outer shell without the mesh underneath.) Nadda... no air there. Opened the shoulder vents on the outer shell and plenty of air. The Ventz things have promise on other bikes but for me there just wasn't enough air flow on the C14 around the cuffs. Even with the clip on the Ventz and the little bumps on the underside of the clip, I lost one of the Ventz while less than 10 miles from home. I'm thinking of experimenting with the one I have left as a leg vent. It would be nice to put a leg out on the hwy pegs and have a vent in the wind where I don't have to worry about a wasp flying up into my pants. Regardless, in my opinion a better attachment method is needed for the Ventz. In the end I went back to using my Veskimo vest and a 28qt. ice chest pump system for the rest of trip.
My opinion of the LD shirt is mixed. It does hold a lot of water, maybe not as much as an evap vest, but it lets more air through than an evap vest so it works at least as good if not better. It doesn't stink until about the 5th day of usage. It is comfortable to the skin. It can be hard to soak with water as the water wants to just run off of it, so I had to cup my hand against the garment to get the water to soak in. This may change after a few washings. If you know you are in for a long hot day and you aren't going to wet down the shirt much, then I don't think the LD shirt is  better than the thinner and much cheaper Heat-Out shirts available at Cycle Gear. If you are going to stop and soak the shirt with lots of water, and or going to be changing altitude several times during the day's ride with the corresponding temperature changes..then the LD shirt is the better bet for all day comfort. The LD shorts were very comfortable. and they too seemed to be good for 5 days before needing some Woolite sink action. During this trip the highest temperature was 99 and I never did try totally wetting the LD shirt under a shell with only the shoulder vents open as I had moved on back to the Veskimo. Next time I'll try that to see how long it will last, I'm sure that would be the way to do it in the 100s as the LD shirt under only the mesh would probably dry out too quickly at those temps.
 A lot of typing just to say that I don't think for cooling purposes, that the C14 has enough air pressure around the grips to allow sufficient airflow up the sleeves. I'm on a 2010 C14 with a 2015 windshield normally (in this case) with the vent fully open and windshield in lowest position. I'd be interested in hearing what others think about the airflow around the grips on their bikes for cooling purposes.