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Offline PlaynInPeoria

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 01:34:25 pm »
Strips. like the food.
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2016, 01:03:34 am »
PR4 GTs for me    :)
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2016, 01:13:27 am »
Just put on PR4 GT's.

The OEM "Stones" went 5,101 miles -> Toast; both of them at the same time. Always ran 42 psi. Front was balder than the back.
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2016, 08:43:00 pm »
After  a couple of front end minor slides in dry cold conditions I ditched the OEM  tyres at 1800 miles before I had a major incident.
The bike would not lean into corners with out a fight very unpredictable in certain conditions,Kawasaki should look hard Bridgestone BT021  tyres they are fitting to their bikes as these tyres are not doing them no favors in advertising the bikes handling abilities to the new owners.
Fit Pirelli Angel GT "A" spec and you have a totally different bike,handles,predicable when braking,outstanding sports machine in the twisties,dry,wet conditions plus exceptional low tyre wear.
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2016, 03:18:35 pm »
Strips. like the food.

Got it, Thanks.  :D

While you're in the mood, is GIVI (as in top case) pronounced  "Giv-ey" or "Jiv-ey"  That is hard g, short i, long e; vs soft g, short i, long e ? ..or something else altogether?   :-\

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2016, 03:41:06 pm »
Got it, Thanks.  :D

While you're in the mood, is GIVI (as in top case) pronounced  "Giv-ey" or "Jiv-ey"  That is hard g, short i, long e; vs soft g, short i, long e ? ..or something else altogether?   :-\

I believe its pronounced GV.   The initials of the founder, Giuseppe Visenzi.

Running Pirelli Angel GTs now.  Approx. 3K miles with no complaints.  One opinion is that the previous set of PR3s were better in the wet, and on painted surfaces.   There are a couple of really wide solid yellow painted crosswalks which run at a 45 degree angle to the road that I go over at about 35 mph at the golf course.  They are real fun when they're wet. 


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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2016, 11:47:07 am »
Got it, Thanks.  :D

While you're in the mood, is GIVI (as in top case) pronounced  "Giv-ey" or "Jiv-ey"  That is hard g, short i, long e; vs soft g, short i, long e ? ..or something else altogether?   :-\

I've always heard "Jee Vee".
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2016, 09:24:57 am »
I said prior in this thread Angel GT's. Well I was forced to try PR4's as the Angel A Spec's are all on back order until November and there was no way I was going to keep the OEM rubber with a plug in the rear on for that long. So coming from the Angel GT A Spcs's to the PR4's I'm not impressed. The Angel's fall into corners. It's effortless cornering and extreme confidence. The PR4's don't do that. You need to put much more effort into the cornering. The confidence part I really haven't had a chance to test yet on the slab ride home.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2016, 03:07:15 pm »
I said prior in this thread Angel GT's. Well I was forced to try PR4's as the Angel A Spec's are all on back order until November and there was no way I was going to keep the OEM rubber with a plug in the rear on for that long. So coming from the Angel GT A Spcs's to the PR4's I'm not impressed. The Angel's fall into corners. It's effortless cornering and extreme confidence. The PR4's don't do that. You need to put much more effort into the cornering. The confidence part I really haven't had a chance to test yet on the slab ride home.

Same size?  You said PR4, not PR4GT, which did you get?  And how are you comparing the Angel GT A to the PR4 if you are coming off the "OEM rubber"?  [update for last question: I see previous post, so you were only changing the rear]

Generally, the turning effort is mostly about the shape of the tire (assuming one hasn't changed the suspension, tire pressures, and the sidewalls are not deforming, etc).  Nothing about how sticky the tire is, how well it rides, how well it wears, how well it sheds water, etc.  If the tire comparison is between two identical sizes (with same sidewall strengths), then only shape remains... and that generally doesn't seem to change much between models and manufacturers.  Tire pressure can also greatly affect tire shape, so make sure that is correct when comparing (42PSI).

Worn tires, no matter what model or size, will generally have greatly different cornering effort and behavior than a new tire (of any sort)... mostly because the wear changes the shape.  It is typical (at least based on my experience)  that the center will wear out first (flat spot), making it resistant to cornering (lots of effort), and then suddenly very squirrely (as it rides on the transition step), and then easier (as it finally falls over the step and rides on the original less-worn shape).
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2016, 03:08:40 pm »
Boy, Kevin, you seem to be in the vast minority. Guys rave about the PR4's.

That said, if we can get some more guys to make comments similar to yours, maybe PR4 prices will drop  :)

Have you confirmed your tire pressure?

Maybe you got a bad one.

My experience is, the PR4 GT is a fantastic, neutral turning tire that makes me wonder what else somebody could want in a sport tour tire.

Crap, posting lines like that is gonna offset yours! And the price goes right back up! I better delete it.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2016, 03:35:20 pm »
Sorry.. PR4GT. 55 rear which is what I always got the Angel GT's in. When I put the very first set of Angel GT A Spec on my 2012 3 years ago I thought something was wrong. It fell into the corners almost too easy. They were outstanding in the wet as well. Never complaint. The PR's aren't bad and are far superior over the OEM crap but they don't feel the same way in the corners.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2016, 03:35:58 pm »
Oh BTW before singing the praise of the PR's have either of you tried the Angel GTs?

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2016, 03:39:18 pm »
Same size?  You said PR4, not PR4GT, which did you get?  And how are you comparing the Angel GT A to the PR4 if you are coming off the "OEM rubber"?  [update for last question: I see previous post, so you were only changing the rear]

I ran Angel GT A Spec on my 2012 before I traded it in for my 2015. So yes I have 43,000 miles of Angel GT experience. I would never just change a rear. Especially if I'm running OEM. I changed both front and rear.

Generally, the turning effort is mostly about the shape of the tire (assuming one hasn't changed the suspension, tire pressures, and the sidewalls are not deforming, etc).  Nothing about how sticky the tire is, how well it rides, how well it wears, how well it sheds water, etc.  If the tire comparison is between two identical sizes (with same sidewall strengths), then only shape remains... and that generally doesn't seem to change much between models and manufacturers.  Tire pressure can also greatly affect tire shape, so make sure that is correct when comparing (42PSI).

I run all my tires at 44 to 42LBS. As you know with the C14 it loses air over time. I always put in 44 and when I get to 42 I bump it up again.

Worn tires, no matter what model or size, will generally have greatly different cornering effort and behavior than a new tire (of any sort)... mostly because the wear changes the shape.  It is typical (at least based on my experience)  that the center will wear out first (flat spot), making it resistant to cornering (lots of effort), and then suddenly very squirrely (as it rides on the transition step), and then easier (as it finally falls over the step and rides on the original less-worn shape).

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2016, 03:42:07 pm »
Oh BTW before singing the praise of the PR's have either of you tried the Angel GTs?

I haven't.  So I would never dismiss or criticize the Angel GT's.  I *can* sing the praise of the PR4GT compared to the OEM and other tires I have used on other bikes, but my experience is, indeed, limited.

I was simply pointing out that comparisons can be complex and why.... and that typically the "easy fallover cornering" is a shape function that can be affected by things other than just the design (like suspension, load weight, sidewall strength selection, tire pressures) which need to be held constant.
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2016, 04:02:13 pm »
I haven't.  So I would never dismiss or criticize the Angel GT's.  I *can* sing the praise of the PR4GT compared to the OEM and other tires I have used on other bikes, but my experience is, indeed, limited.

I was simply pointing out that comparisons can be complex and why.... and that typically the "easy fallover cornering" is a shape function that can be affected by things other than just the design (like suspension, load weight, sidewall strength selection, tire pressures) which need to be held constant.


Take a walk on the wildside. Stick a pair of Angel's under ur butt  ;D I totally agree it's all about the shape of the Angels. The PRs are I'm sure a rock solid tire it's just a matter of feel I guess. There is a similar thread in the other forum and the majority like PR followed closely by the Angels and then a few one offs.