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Offline lather

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2019, 07:19:37 am »
Martin, what do you use to cut up your tires? I have tried that before and it was a real chore and made a big mess with the side grinder I was using.


Sort of a follow up to my earlier post, or rather a continuation on the same theme but different tire.

Cross section of my front tire, an Avon Storm 3D XM after 10,594 miles. There is cupping and a strange asymmetrical wear pattern with more wear on the left side but since
 I have a warped rotor on the right side it could be caused from that during heavy front braking.
At slow speed in traffic just trying to stay vertical was a tiring tedious process with the strange wear pattern effecting slow speed steering. I probably went 1000 miles too far on this tire.*
At least this time as per max's suggestion I cut the tire at the wear bar. when you click to get the large photo size, you can see a definite line between rubber types. It's
my guess that when you hit the lighter colored carcass rubber that's around the cords (second photo) you'll be down into the cords pretty quickly.









*edit: I just noticed that I actually wore through to the lighter carcass rubber in one spot...eeek!


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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2019, 11:09:15 am »
Martin, what do you use to cut up your tires? I have tried that before and it was a real chore and made a big mess with the side grinder I was using.

It is a chore. So far the best way I've found is to squeeze the tire in a vise and then cut it with a reciprocating saw (I use a Sawzall type, I haven't tried a sabre saw). Without the vise the tire grabs the blade and it becomes a shaking mess. After it is sliced off I use a belt sander to get a clean look at the cords and rubber on one end of the sliced off section. You can still see some of the vise marks on the tire in the top photo. I don't have one (yet) but I think a band saw would be the very best option, should be able to get nice straight cuts with that, might not even need sanding.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2019, 06:01:58 am »
It is a chore. So far the best way I've found is to squeeze the tire in a vise and then cut it with a reciprocating saw (I use a Sawzall type

Cut the big steel cords in the bead 1st with bolt cutters, then the rest cuts fairly easy with a sawzall.
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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2020, 04:40:53 pm »
It's nice to see my topic still relevant.   ;D

I went with Angel GT (55 profile); I didn't know about the A spec (what does A mean?).  I loved them to the end.  They keep a good profile for the mountainous and highway riding I do.  They were grippy enough to keep up with the sport bikes in my club (providing they weren't abusing their -300lb advantage). 

Even now, I remember the first ride I had on these.  I was chosen to lead the rally.  I remember coming to turns and the bike just dove into the corners like a fish.  It was exhilarating! I came to appreciate the 'sport' in sport touring that day.

Looking at tires again, I am leaning heavily to the Angel GT(A); however, the absolute numbers of the PR4 ravers has me curious.  Are the profiles of the Angel and PR4's similar?  Which is more aggressive?  Which would you let your daughter run on her rainy trip through Canada???

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2020, 10:45:50 am »
  Which would you let your daughter run on her rainy trip through Canada???

This is the only question of yours that I can answer. Michelin Road 5GT.

Despite my cutting old tires up, that doesn't really give me any clue as to profiles, or I'm just not astute enough to know what I'm looking at.
I'm going on tire hype alone and reviews from others that I've talked to as I haven't ridden on my PR5 GTs yet (they are on the shelf).
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 I don't ride fast enough or rather leaned over enough to get wear right to the edge of the tire, so I can only speak about travel wear. I get about 1000 miles more
wear out of Avon Storm 3Ds than I do out of Michelin PR4GTs. I get almost the same with Angel GTs (spec A) as the Michelin PR4GTs or maybe only 500 miles less.
Because I'm not a daily rider, but rather a trip rider, I can rarely ride the tires right to their limit. I look at them and decide if they will make it to the end
of the planned trip and replace them if not. The savings I get from changing my own tires makes up for the unused tread wear that I throw away. The Avons
 are the only ones so far that I can say I've worn to the limit for sure, and the last 1000 miles the front tire was fairly non-symmetrical to the point that really
slow going in stop and go traffic (never any fun) was a lot more challenging than usual. It didn't seem to have any problems when going over 15-20mph.

I currently have Dunlop Q3 Plus Sportmax tires, although I have no complaints for the ride or feel of them, I was not impressed with the tread depth when brand new.
I have doubts about their abilities in heavy rain. I did ride them through approx 45 minutes of light to moderate rain but mostly straight to gentle highway curves in the
70-80 mph range and had no complaints. I won't be able to say much about their wear as they will be changed to the Michelin Road 5GTs before they wear out for a trip
this summer.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2020, 08:30:40 pm »
Shinko 016 Verge 2X Radials!
I was impressed by the Shinkos I tried on my 1800 Goldwing, so I thought I’d give these a try on my new-to-me ‘08 C14.
Only about 700 miles on them so far, but I’m impressed again!
I live near some very nice curves, and I’ve leaned all the way to  the edge of the tires, front and rear.
Very confidence inspiring with no surprises.
I used a 55 profile rear, and the excessive inside handlebar pressure to maintain lean in a turn disappeared.
I saved over a hundred dollars vs. big name tires, too!

Scott
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F*** it, I’m going for a ride.

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2020, 08:12:52 am »
I just installed Mitas Touring Force with 55 on back. I only covered only 150 miles, but the first impressions are excelent!
The motorcycle tilts very well, does not vibrate the handlebars and goes extremely smoothly. I will be back with more impressions after several miles. :chugbeer:

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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2020, 01:10:38 pm »
Michelin Pilot Road 4 for me. Michelin when your life depends on it


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Re: It's that time of the year.... What tire are you sporting??
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2020, 03:35:15 pm »
{C-14} I went to the Road Smart II's.
Same compound as the Road Smart III's
Handling is fine, and cost less than $180 a set..

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