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Annoying caller blocking....
« on: July 03, 2017, 12:05:07 pm »
Hey, any of you folk know how to screen callers on a landline before it gets to my house? I am using VOIP via COX communications. And if at all possible, I would like to screen calls before they hit my house because I also have call- waiting (AKA Call Annoying) and so would like to stop the annoying and unwanted 'beeps' from that same group of bottom- feeders. If not, then something in the house would still be worthwhile.

It has gotten so bad here I have turned off all the ringers in the house. I do have call block on my answering machine / cordless phone system and that works fine but it seems this new and exciting breed of bottom feeders has grabbed entire blocks of phone numbers and when one (or 3 or 9) are blocked, they just skip to the next one and hammer away.

Also, I am not sure what the mechanism providing the information is but there is no doubt that the bottom feeders have information about my phone use habits; I receive several telephone calls in the same time band, and the bottom feeders are calling in this exact time band. For example: I get calls from 'real people / businesses' between, say, 4:00 and 5:30 commonly. The bottom feeders call in this exact same time- band each and every single day. It cannot be a coincidence and the only way to align these...... harassing calls with times I normally do get calls is if the bottom feeders have that data. Now I am not much of a believer in conspiracies and really do not go for ideas based on some (it seems to me) basically random people forming a group to do anything evil (I base this on the fact that not many conspiracies are known / documented and the fact that given endless time and money, we (humanity) do not do very well pulling off desirable conspiracies to accomplish anything at all) but in this particular case, it is far too regular to be any kind of random events.

But anyway, looking for a method to basically go back to 1965.... when the phone rang, it was because someone wanted to talk to someone on the receiving end (Easy Boys! although it DOES kinda' feel like being on the receiving end of..... THAT). All help appreciated.

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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 12:38:47 pm »
I wish I had some magic solution to share with you, but I don't.  I am not sure what has happened the last few years, but you are correct that it is crazy.   Very few people have my land line number (or cell number for that matter), and I NEVER give it to any companies.  On top of that, it has always been unlisted (yep, I PAY for it to be that way).  Same phone number for at least 28 years.

In the past, I would get the occasional serial-dialing machine spam call; perhaps once a month or so.  But now I am getting several calls a week.  The situation is beyond annoying and unacceptable.  It is an invasion of privacy and peace.  For me, screening would be useless.... the damage is done the moment the phone rings.  Similar rate on my cell phone; so now that doubles the annoyance.

I really think all such calls should be illegal, criminally, and enforced through use of some instant reporting mechanism.

Since that will never happen, what I would like to do would be to have something that answers the phone line(s) without it ringing and challenge the caller to answer a question or press a certain button.  If they don't, it holds the phone forever, or enters into a machine banter to confuse their machines and make it harder for them to annoy anyone else.  If they do answer, then it rings through as normal.  Such a concept would be very difficult without it being arranged by the CO (the phone carrier).  To do it without the CO at home would mean having a box in front of the connection to the rest of the house.  And to do it on a cell phone, it would require sophisticated rooted software of some type.

There are things like this:

https://www.ringcentral.com/office/features/call-screening/overview.html
Or better yet:  https://www.nomorobo.com/

The latter might work for you, being that it is VOIP (and theoretically free) . But none of them seem to be quite "there" for my use.
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 12:50:23 pm »
what's a landline?

the only reason there's copper coming into the house is to provide my (fibre!) broadband :D
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 12:59:33 pm »
what's a landline?

You know, the phones that:

1) Are in all rooms at the same time
2) Can be used by more than one person at the same time
3) Ring through the whole house so you can hear it
4) Work when the cell towers are down
5) Work without batteries (unless cordless)
6) Have vastly superior voice quality
7) Have cordless handsets that are comfortable to hold and use
8 ) Work with fax and alarm hookups
9) Don't get lost or easily damaged
10) Don't cost $400 to $900 each (or tie you into a contract)
11) Are predictably where you need them when you have to dial 911

You know, those
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 01:03:56 pm »
The latter might work for you, being that it is VOIP (and theoretically free) . But none of them seem to be quite "there" for my use.


You might also be interested in something like these:

https://www.amazon.com/CPR-V5000-Call-Blocker-Robocalls/dp/B0191XMBV2
https://www.amazon.com/Tel-Lynx-Guardian-Personal-Telephone-Assistant/dp/B014WPXJ0G

The Tel-Lynx is particularly interesting, since it is a white-list device that is similar to what I was looking for... so you don't really have to program it.  And it is packed with features across three different models.  So many features, it kinda makes my head hurt :)

http://www.tel-lynx.com/html/manual.php
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 01:28:55 pm »
You know, the phones that:

1) Are in all rooms at the same time
2) Can be used by more than one person at the same time
3) Ring through the whole house so you can hear it
4) Work when the cell towers are down
5) Work without batteries (unless cordless)
6) Have vastly superior voice quality
7) Have cordless handsets that are comfortable to hold and use
8 ) Work with fax and alarm hookups
9) Don't get lost or easily damaged
10) Don't cost $400 to $900 each (or tie you into a contract)
11) Are predictably where you need them when you have to dial 911

You know, those

999 not 911, bloody colonials ;)

we introduced 999 in 1937, 911 didn't come into use until 1968 :p
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 01:57:35 pm »
Clearly, you are a man who does not watch 'The Simpsons', an educational television program in the US (and I believe, vast other areas of the planet). If you did watch it, you would know from the 'Stonecutters' episode that the REAL emergency number in the US is 912; they gave that number to Homer once he was a member of the 'ancient and mystical association of Stonecutters'. There is no part of life one cannot navigate, with at least some hope of success, if one has been educated by 'The Simpsons'.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

But yeah, I think the US was late on that one and it is worse than just appearing in 1968- we did not get it in the area I live in until the late 1970's or the 1980's.

Brian

999 not 911, bloody colonials ;)

we introduced 999 in 1937, 911 didn't come into use until 1968 :p
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 02:13:56 pm »
I have an app called NoMoRobo that Xfinity (Comcast) turned me onto. There's an account set up at Xfinity that has my landline and cell numbers in it with the calls forwarded to my cellphone. When a robo call comes, it shows up  in the app and the app kills it. On the other hand, I can see who's calling and if it's family or friends, I can pick it up on my cellphone. It freaks people out to call the house and when I answer then tell them I'm in another town.

It's not perfect, but helpful. There's some scumbag companies out there who are porting their robo calls through local numbers, like cell phones that show up somehow on my caller id as local. If I let it roll over and then hit redial, I get some poor schmuck whose phone has been hijacked.

NoMoRobo works for me. Probably a similar app for your VOIP set up if you call Customer Service and ask.
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 02:14:27 pm »
I am in a similar boat, landline with the same number for 35 years or so but use it exactly the opposite way you do: the number is listed, I freely give it out and do not have a problem with anyone calling other than the 'bottom- feeders', in fact, my landline is the 'Rostra help line' and the 'KiPass help / bitch line' and the 'General C-14 chat line'.  ;D  And I have never, ever had a problem with that.... I do not mind even a casual caller on that line.

My cell phone number is a closely guarded secret; and I almost never get calls from unknown persons.

Several calls a week, huh? Well I am getting several calls a DAY and it got old long, long ago!

The problem with doing it with any in- the- house service, or really anything beyond COX's service, is that nothing on my own end can block calls when the phone is actually in- use; and because the annoying calls occur in narrow windows when the landline is more often used, I actually catch a large number of the Call Waiting 'dropouts', which of course no device can fix on my end, that is done on COXs' level.

Brian


I wish I had some magic solution to share with you, but I don't.  I am not sure what has happened the last few years, but you are correct that it is crazy.   Very few people have my land line number (or cell number for that matter), and I NEVER give it to any companies.  On top of that, it has always been unlisted (yep, I PAY for it to be that way).  Same phone number for at least 28 years.

In the past, I would get the occasional serial-dialing machine spam call; perhaps once a month or so.  But now I am getting several calls a week.  The situation is beyond annoying and unacceptable.  It is an invasion of privacy and peace.  For me, screening would be useless.... the damage is done the moment the phone rings.  Similar rate on my cell phone; so now that doubles the annoyance.

I really think all such calls should be illegal, criminally, and enforced through use of some instant reporting mechanism.

Since that will never happen, what I would like to do would be to have something that answers the phone line(s) without it ringing and challenge the caller to answer a question or press a certain button.  If they don't, it holds the phone forever, or enters into a machine banter to confuse their machines and make it harder for them to annoy anyone else.  If they do answer, then it rings through as normal.  Such a concept would be very difficult without it being arranged by the CO (the phone carrier).  To do it without the CO at home would mean having a box in front of the connection to the rest of the house.  And to do it on a cell phone, it would require sophisticated rooted software of some type.

There are things like this:

https://www.ringcentral.com/office/features/call-screening/overview.html
Or better yet:  https://www.nomorobo.com/

The latter might work for you, being that it is VOIP (and theoretically free) . But none of them seem to be quite "there" for my use.
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 02:17:10 pm »
Then wait until you get electricity- you are in for a REAL treat! Good stuff, them there ampons..... (Easy Boys! I said "ampons", like "voltons").

And you spelled 'fiber' incorrectly. Wow, just how strong is that 'emulsion' you drink?

Brian

what's a landline?

the only reason there's copper coming into the house is to provide my (fibre!) broadband :D
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 02:49:36 pm »
After thinking about this for a minute, I think this is actually a pretty good idea Max. No, a great idea; it could be a voice version of the 'Prove you are not a robot and enter the numbers from the box below' thingy a lot of log- in pages now have all over the 'Net.

So the 'magic' box answers the landline BEFORE it gets to anything that rings or lights up, answers the line, and a voice asks the user to press 2 or 3 numbers to 'be connected'. A small inconvenience for those calling me but really, nothing atrocious, and I believe it would virtually eliminate the bottom feeders.

Thanks for that Max!

Brian


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Since that will never happen, what I would like to do would be to have something that answers the phone line(s) without it ringing and challenge the caller to answer a question or press a certain button.  If they don't, it holds the phone forever, or enters into a machine banter to confuse their machines and make it harder for them to annoy anyone else.  If they do answer, then it rings through as normal.  Such a concept would be very difficult without it being arranged by the CO (the phone carrier).  To do it without the CO at home would mean having a box in front of the connection to the rest of the house.  And to do it on a cell phone, it would require sophisticated rooted software of some type.

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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 02:53:39 pm »
Interesting, and Max mentioned this also a post or three ago. Will look into it, mostly how it works. Not interested in porting anything to my cell phone but perhaps this will work on a stand- alone line. The price is attractive at $0.00 / month for VOIP too. Thanks.

Brian

I have an app called NoMoRobo that Xfinity (Comcast) turned me onto. There's an account set up at Xfinity that has my landline and cell numbers in it with the calls forwarded to my cellphone. When a robo call comes, it shows up  in the app and the app kills it. On the other hand, I can see who's calling and if it's family or friends, I can pick it up on my cellphone. It freaks people out to call the house and when I answer then tell them I'm in another town.

It's not perfect, but helpful. There's some scumbag companies out there who are porting their robo calls through local numbers, like cell phones that show up somehow on my caller id as local. If I let it roll over and then hit redial, I get some poor schmuck whose phone has been hijacked.

NoMoRobo works for me. Probably a similar app for your VOIP set up if you call Customer Service and ask.
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 03:40:45 pm »
"landline"? I know not what that is.

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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2017, 04:20:02 pm »
Well, without an emoticon I cannot tell if you are serious or not. I <believe> you are old enough but am not sure.

For the pups out there, a landline is a telephone service hard- wired to a building. There are still two or three left in the US although I think one may have died, leaving only two of us who have them. I like mine a lot: I can use it without any spotty coverage, it works better than my cell phone, and anyone / everyone can have that number 'cause it never, ever makes anything ring when I do not want it to do so. When riding my bike, for example: I can make and recieve phone calls but <almost> everyone that has my landline cannot call me because they do not have my cell number.

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"landline"? I know not what that is.
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Re: Annoying caller blocking....
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2017, 04:26:12 pm »
OK, looked at NoMoRobo and that may be the magic bullet I have been looking for. The bad news is that apparently COX will not allow me to use it. Hmmmmm

OK, I just switched back to COX after Verizon jacked my subscribtion prices by over $100 / month. That said, it has been more than 90 days and Verizon is calling, mailing and so forth with superb offers so perhaps it is time to 'jump' ship yet again.

I could go with something like Vonage but the price of three COX services (ought to be a joke in there) is as cheap as two, so Vonage would just raise the overall price for phone / TV / cable.

Unless I chuck two COX services and use alternative methods for TV programming...... Lot to think about here.

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