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Offline mikeyw64

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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2018, 11:50:10 pm »
here's a related question.

Should a child be punished for their parents criminal actions?
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2018, 04:15:42 am »
here's a related question.

Should a child be punished for their parents criminal actions?

The law breaking parents should be removed and take their family with them.

By the way how's that EU open borders thing working out for you guys. I read where Londonistan and other formally English cities are not so friendly to the natives anymore. So how would it be if we try to take care of our problem and you'all enjoy your 'immigrants'.
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2018, 05:42:14 am »
The law breaking parents should be removed and take their family with them.

By the way how's that EU open borders thing working out for you guys. I read where Londonistan and other formally English cities are not so friendly to the natives anymore. So how would it be if we try to take care of our problem and you'all enjoy your 'immigrants'.

London's a shithole anyways, can't see for the life of me why anyone would want to live there :)

So your answer is "yes , children should be punished for their parents criminal activity"

Correct ?
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2018, 06:03:02 am »
The law breaking parents should be removed and take their family with them.

By the way how's that EU open borders thing working out for you guys. I read where Londonistan and other formally English cities are not so friendly to the natives anymore. So how would it be if we try to take care of our problem and you'all enjoy your 'immigrants'.

Well that was  an interesting exercise.

Numbers for illegal immigrants in the UK vary between 300,000 & 600,000. If we double that upper figure to 1.2 million (just to give a reasonable overestimate)  then based on a population size of 65 million that represents 1.9% of the UK population are here illegally,


I believe the figure for the USA is around 3.4% so yes you do have a bigger problem than us if you view it that way and we appear to be doing a better job already thank you ;)
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2018, 06:35:46 am »
ICE should wait for her at her office and just deport her a$$ when she shows up.

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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2018, 07:13:00 am »
London's a shithole anyways, can't see for the life of me why anyone would want to live there :)

So your answer is "yes , children should be punished for their parents criminal activity"

Correct ?

Where's the punishment? Parents are supposed to care for their offspring. We wouldn't want to break up the family unit now would we.
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2018, 07:17:08 am »
Well that was  an interesting exercise.

Numbers for illegal immigrants in the UK vary between 300,000 & 600,000. If we double that upper figure to 1.2 million (just to give a reasonable overestimate)  then based on a population size of 65 million that represents 1.9% of the UK population are here illegally,


I believe the figure for the USA is around 3.4% so yes you do have a bigger problem than us if you view it that way and we appear to be doing a better job already thank you ;)


Yep, good job.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/islamist-extremists-uk-highest-number-europe-25000-terror-threat-eu-official-isis-islam-britain-a7923966.html
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UK home to up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose threat, EU official warns
Number is the highest known figure in Europe, amid concern over 'known' extremists launching recent attacks

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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2018, 07:30:00 am »
here's a related question.

Should a child be punished for their parents criminal actions?

Children are punished all the time for their parents crimes. Kids are separated from their parents every time a criminal that is also a parent goes to jail.

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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 07:38:58 am »
Yep, good job.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/islamist-extremists-uk-highest-number-europe-25000-terror-threat-eu-official-isis-islam-britain-a7923966.html
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UK home to up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose threat, EU official warns
Number is the highest known figure in Europe, amid concern over 'known' extremists launching recent attacks

Lizzie Dearden Home Affairs Correspondent


Not all illegal immigrants are Islamist Extremists (or to put it another way, some of those nutters will be British born/naturalised)

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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2018, 07:43:12 am »
Children are punished all the time for their parents crimes. Kids are separated from their parents every time a criminal that is also a parent goes to jail.

True, will think of a better way of wording it but meanwhile being more specific:


This particular young lady sounds like a big positive vote for democracy and the system  in the USA.

First person in her family ever to graduate from College and being so high profile I would imagine she has followed due process and applied for PD to allow her to stay regardless of her parents transgressions in the past .



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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2018, 07:47:35 am »
although it's also equally likely her appointment is nothing more than cocking a snoot at the opposition ;)

(would be nice to think she had just got it on merit though)
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2018, 08:33:20 am »

This particular young lady sounds like a big positive vote for democracy and the system  in the USA.

First person in her family ever to graduate from College and being so high profile I would imagine she has followed due process and applied for PD to allow her to stay regardless of her parents transgressions in the past .

This particular young lady is a slap in the face to every legal immigrant who has come to this country and applied for citizenship the legal way.

If she's so wonderful why hasn't she applied for, and become a legal citizen?  Seems like she's been here long enough, and she should know the law, one would think, after all, she is a lawyer.  Her illegal parents, and her illegal a$$ should be deported for breaking our laws!   >:(
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2018, 08:42:26 am »
Not all illegal immigrants are Islamist Extremists (or to put it another way, some of those nutters will be British born/naturalised)

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So  all these people and their ancestors are native born Islanders and just happened to convert to radical islam. Got it.
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2018, 09:12:47 am »
So  all these people and their ancestors are native born Islanders and just happened to convert to radical islam. Got it.

I never said all ;)

But yes there have been examples of both multi generation Brits & naturalised Brits converting
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Re: This is a proverbial bridge too far......
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2018, 10:32:05 am »
Interesting view Mike- I actually look at this as a total failure of our democracy.

Our system (as I believe is yours) is based on citizens voting for what they want done. There are only two qualifications for an American to vote:

1) must be a citizen
2) Must have reached 'age of majority'

If people are voting who do not fall into both of these categories, then I would call it a failure of the system and therefore, a failure of democracy in the US. This is, IMO, a truly horrible situation.

The only thing that could happen to make it any worse would be to bring in 'ringers' to vote; not only those unqualified to vote in the first place but those who have a purpose, especially if that purpose supports a political agenda, in swinging a vote a certain way. Illegal Aliens vote a particular way in the US, and it is that party (faction, group, whatever you want to call it) that is pushing for them to be allowed to vote.... of course. If we are going to do that, why not just grab a dictator and be done with all the effort and mechanics of putting on a show that looks like democracy?

But then again, in a sane world, we would not even be discussing the incredibly absurd idea of non- citizens and especially illegal aliens voting because THEY WOULD BE IN BRACELETS (HANDCUFFS) ON THEIR WAY TO THE INTERNATIONAL LINE WHERE THEY WOULD BE GENTLY PRODDED THROUGH A ONE- WAY GATE.

I like other motorcycle riders / owners generally. Not wild about motorcycle thieves though. I feel the same way about immigrants and illegal aliens I guess.

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True, will think of a better way of wording it but meanwhile being more specific:


This particular young lady sounds like a big positive vote for democracy and the system  in the USA.

First person in her family ever to graduate from College and being so high profile I would imagine she has followed due process and applied for PD to allow her to stay regardless of her parents transgressions in the past .
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