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Offline Romonov

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Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« on: May 08, 2018, 05:43:56 pm »
Hey guys!
I bought my 2012 last September and have had a great time, and as expected, it is time for new tires, and I’m close to buy Michelins, but would like to hear your opinion and recommendations.
What is your best choice?
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 06:06:36 pm »
Avon Storm 3D LM. I have not tried the PR 4 but but Avons have better grip and feel than the PR2 and PR3.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 06:27:03 pm »
I just bought a set of Perrelli Angel GT's to replace my stock tires here in a few more weeks. I can't give a review yet, but there are several here that recommended them.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2018, 06:43:20 pm »
Why, this has all the earmarks of a...



...TIRE THREAD!!!!


I have the Pilot Road 4 GTs.  Why?  Cuz the guy I bought the bike from swore by ‘em. 
I use AMSoil.  Why?  Same reason.
And I don’t even KNOW what brand brake pads are on it...

Wait for the Road 5 GTs to come out later this year.... :stirpot:

Actually, we used the Pilots on our BMW RT patrol bikes.  They gave us good grip and high mileage.  I got about 8k on my rear tire and could’ve easily gone another 1k before I swapped it out.  I don’t think you could go wrong with any of the three. 
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 08:08:48 am »
Thanks a lot guys,
I’m ordering my Pilots 4!
Now! ... Installation, let’s see how I’ll do...planning on doing the whole thing myself for the first time ever   ;)
I’ll tell you guys about it.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 08:44:15 am »
[snip] ... Installation... [snip]...planning on doing the whole thing myself for the first time ever...[snip]
I’ll tell you guys about it.

Oh boy.   :popcorn:
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 10:32:47 am »
Now! ... Installation, let’s see how I’ll do...planning on doing the whole thing myself for the first time ever   ;)
I’ll tell you guys about it.

Some first time gotchas to avoid:
1)Loosening the front pinch bolts on the wrong side. Remember that "the right side is the right side (aka the correct side).
2) Breaking the bead right over the TPMS and thus breaking the TPMS into two or more pieces....... Don't do that!
3) Failure to protect your brake disks when breaking the tire bead, or just letting the wheel fall over and land on the disk.  :doh:
4) Mounting the tires spinning the wrong way.......... Look at the arrows on the tires and on the front wheel. (I don't think the back wheel has an arrow but...maybe? Regardless the rear tire will have arrows)
5) Mounting the front wheel with the ABS/TC sensor disk on the left instead of the right.
6) Forgetting to get the moly lube for the rear wheel splines before you start, or forgetting to lube it at all.
7) Mounting the wheels back on the bike properly torquing everything, then remembering that they still need to be balanced.

Numbers 2 and 3 are the most important gotchas to avoid, as it gets expensive and can eat up the money you save by doing it yourself.

Other tips: Yes the beads and wheel rims can be lubed with just a rag and some soapy water, but I recommend just buying or re-purposing a spray bottle and using it to apply
lube. When the tire doesn't slip right on for you the first time, it's so much easier to just use a spray bottle to re-lube it.

If you are struggling and sweating...take a break. Watch some Youtube tire changing videos or something.

If you are using a MoJo lever, when mounting the tire, remember it's purpose is not to force the bead down over the rim, it's to push the bead out past the rim so that it
can drop down past the rim on it's own as you move the lever out of it's way.

About the TPMS, place a bright colored sticky note to the wheel where the TPMS is to remind you it's there. It'll be one of the things you forget about if things don't go
smoothly at first and you start struggling in frustration.

I don't offer this as some sort of tire changing expert, but as someone that has learned this the hard way or has come very close to that (depending on the gotcha).
   :hail: Justcliff would be the expert, as he just does it on the floor with tire irons.  :hail:


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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2018, 10:43:52 am »
I’m picking up my front tire with a pr4 GTO today. I think Cycle Gear charges just $25 for mount and
balence.
According to the announcement from Michelin, the GT version of the new 5 won’t be out until 2019, not this year. Whether they mean 1/19 or 12/19, is anyone’s guess. As my front is almost down to the wear bars, I reluctantly got another pr4 gt.

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2018, 03:01:22 pm »
I like PR4GT, but I would never attempt to mount them myself :)
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2018, 03:54:30 pm »
I’m picking up my front tire with a pr4 GTO today. I think Cycle Gear charges just $25 for mount and
balence.
According to the announcement from Michelin, the GT version of the new 5 won’t be out until 2019, not this year. Whether they mean 1/19 or 12/19, is anyone’s guess. As my front is almost down to the wear bars, I reluctantly got another pr4 gt.
If you buy the tires thru them, mount and balance is free.  Otherwise, I was quoted $50 to mount with balancing free. 
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2018, 04:05:29 pm »
Some first time gotchas to avoid:
1)Loosening the front pinch bolts on the wrong side. Remember that "the right side is the right side (aka the correct side).
2) Breaking the bead right over the TPMS and thus breaking the TPMS into two or more pieces....... Don't do that!
3) Failure to protect your brake disks when breaking the tire bead, or just letting the wheel fall over and land on the disk.  :doh:
4) Mounting the tires spinning the wrong way.......... Look at the arrows on the tires and on the front wheel. (I don't think the back wheel has an arrow but...maybe? Regardless the rear tire will have arrows)
5) Mounting the front wheel with the ABS/TC sensor disk on the left instead of the right.
6) Forgetting to get the moly lube for the rear wheel splines before you start, or forgetting to lube it at all.
7) Mounting the wheels back on the bike properly torquing everything, then remembering that they still need to be balanced.

Numbers 2 and 3 are the most important gotchas to avoid, as it gets expensive and can eat up the money you save by doing it yourself.

Other tips: Yes the beads and wheel rims can be lubed with just a rag and some soapy water, but I recommend just buying or re-purposing a spray bottle and using it to apply
lube. When the tire doesn't slip right on for you the first time, it's so much easier to just use a spray bottle to re-lube it.

If you are struggling and sweating...take a break. Watch some Youtube tire changing videos or something.

If you are using a MoJo lever, when mounting the tire, remember it's purpose is not to force the bead down over the rim, it's to push the bead out past the rim so that it
can drop down past the rim on it's own as you move the lever out of it's way.

About the TPMS, place a bright colored sticky note to the wheel where the TPMS is to remind you it's there. It'll be one of the things you forget about if things don't go
smoothly at first and you start struggling in frustration.

I don't offer this as some sort of tire changing expert, but as someone that has learned this the hard way or has come very close to that (depending on the gotcha).
   :hail: Justcliff would be the expert, as he just does it on the floor with tire irons.  :hail:

Good advice FM.  I’m recently the proud owner of the Fred Harmon (FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY) maintenance DVD set and have been learning so much.  I missed #6 and need to go back and take care of that.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2018, 04:54:43 pm »
Thanks so much for the summary, I was kind of counting on this type of feedback and, Man! FM you went professional on the subject! Great information!
I still think it’s worth giving it a try, and go ahead with the installation, but just in case will check if there is a Cycle Gear that could provide the service.
Again, thanks everyone.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2018, 05:34:28 pm »
If you buy the tires thru them, mount and balance is free.  Otherwise, I was quoted $50 to mount with balancing free.

No, they charge $25 if you get the tire from them, $50 if you got the tire from someone else.
They also offer road hazard coverage for extra $.

https://www.cyclegear.com/tire-install-service

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2018, 05:51:50 pm »
...... but just in case will check if there is a Cycle Gear that could provide the service.

Some Cycle Gears are good and some....Just be sure they are aware of the TPMS and that you expect them to replace it if they break it. Saying that as I was dropping off the wheel at my Cycle Gear years ago, made us come to a mutual decision that I should go somewhere else.

1)Loosening the front pinch bolts on the wrong side. Remember that "the right side is the right side (aka the correct side).

Possible OOPS!?

It has occurred to me that a previous owner, previous tech, previous Cycle gear, could have removed everything and put it back in differently left to right. I'm 99% certain that from the factory all the axle shafts go in/and come out from the right side (loosen pinch bolts) and the nut (threaded collar) is on the left (don't loosen pinch bolts). There is no guarantee that yours is that way, so just to be sure, peer in the axle hole with a flashlight to verify that the threads are on the left side (it's also the end of the axle that has about a 5/8th-3/4 in. long section where the inside diameter is smaller). Regardless, the side with the threads visible (nut) is the side you do not want to loosen. (although it's not the end of the world, it just slows everything down)



Best wishes!

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2018, 07:36:58 pm »
A non dealer shop busted the rear sensor on my bike. They paid for the sender and the cost to have it
programmed .
The guy at cycle gear said it wouldn’t be a problem, said they get busted when tire is removed, with the tool going into the tpsm.  He said he’d make sure that doesn’t happen.