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Offline Rubber_Snake

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2018, 11:45:17 pm »
No, they charge $25 if you get the tire from them, $50 if you got the tire from someone else.
They also offer road hazard coverage for extra $.

https://www.cyclegear.com/tire-install-service
Okay, I couldn’t remember cuz I had already taken my tire off and mounted it before I brought it to them. 

Well, that and the fact I can’t remember jack schmidt!   :doh:
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2018, 05:59:17 am »
Avon Storm 3D LM. I have not tried the PR 4 but but Avons have better grip and feel than the PR2 and PR3.

I'm with lather on this, 3D-XM's for me. I've had 3 sets of the PR4's along with the 2's & 3's. To me each one was a downgrade from the previous model.


   :hail: Justcliff would be the expert, as he just does it on the floor with tire irons.  :hail:


I just mounted my 38th set of tires on my C14. Yes I do spoon them on like Marty said. I'm by no means a expert I just never found it to be a big deal to do. Some quality spoons, my homemade bead breaker, box/crate to keep wheel off the floor & the yellow thing is all that's needed.

One thing I'll add to Marty's list is, lay the tires out in the sun for a while. I've done them stone cold in the winter & left them out in the sun for hours. Mounting a warm tire verses a cold tire is night & day difference.

I have loads of room to mount a changer, just never felt the need for one.

My neighbor is a dealer & I can use his air operated machine anytime I want at no cost. His shop is 15 miles away. I can be done quicker than I can make the 30 mile round trip. 
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2018, 10:30:40 pm »
Hey guys,

After starting this topic and receiving your recommendations on changing the tires of my 2012 concours, I started by changing my mind on the type of tires… Poseidon mentioned the Pirelli Angel GT, made some search and decided to buy them instead of the Michelin. “fartmarty” gave us a very comprehensive set of instructions that served me as a great guide for my project.
Let me start with the best advice from “fartmarty”:

If you are struggling and sweating...take a break. Watch some Youtube tire changing videos or something.

I did exactly that, in fact several times! the whole project took me 4 days; several trips to different stores to buy and/or change supplies such as paint, tools, bolts and whatnot!

Based on the videos from Windy Urtnowski about using “Gorilla” tape to install the new tires, I proceeded to implement the process, and after a few attempts following every instruction from the video on the rear tire, I decided most definitely that “I hate Windy”!!!!!   ;D
I had to change the plan, and using the Motion-Pro tire bead breakers, with the rim protectors; very good tools indeed, if you know how to use them! I had to paint the edge of the rim three times before the tire was installed! I learned the hard way, that you really must know how to use the tools.
Once the tire was out and the rim free and clean, I took a look at the TPMS, it was broken and had to do some plastic welding and use some ciano-acrylate. I also watched this very good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXTz2pBzR4

I have the same low battery and rear tire pressure until the bike heats up, then it works perfectly. Most probably will have to change the battery by winter time, whenever it’s too cold for riding. I will then revisit the process again. Also, for whomever is interested, this link would help a lot in order to find the right battery for this kind of work:

https://console5.com/store/panasonic-cr2032-3v-lithium-battery-with-solder-tabs-pins.html

 When I was waiting for the paint to dry, took some time to work on the tap of the transmission oil deposit that the previous owner damaged with a flat screwdriver. Eliminate the black paint, polish the cap and with the help of my son using the “cricut” machine from my wife, painted green “K” on it…I think it came out rather nice!


 
Time for the front wheel, as you all know, after going through some of the problems of the rear tire. I tried to find a 13/16 “ spark plug socket that would allow me to use my extension to loose the 22mm front axle nut, but all what is available in the market has an rounded smaller inside, that does fit the tools. I had to improvise and found a car wheel nut and a 22mm socket for my wrench, this made the job!

 

Problem was that when starting to undo the two bolts on the right leg of the fork, I discover they were really loose, and that got me really worried! Looking at the tire wear profile it was even more evident, and I wonder if the forks are working properly:

 

When mounting the new tire, and using the gorilla tape method, I came to love Windy Urtnowski again…it worked like a charm! This time the TPMS is in good condition and thanks to the recommendation from “fartmarty” to place a big mark where the valve is, there were no problems with it. I even took the opportunity to clean the brake pads very well. There is one problem with the screws that hold the calipers, they are worn out and I must find replacements very soon…does anyone know how to get them?

I imagine that just as the rest of you when finishing some mod, I am very satisfied with the final state of my bike, and can’t wait for tomorrow’s ride… let’s see how it goes!


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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2018, 02:22:13 am »
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2018, 03:45:01 pm »
Romo - Nov, they both belong to family names...I'm not Russian though ;-)

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2018, 07:13:07 pm »
There is one problem with the screws that hold the calipers, they are worn out and I must find replacements very soon…

Just to be sure there isn't something I'm missing here (it happens, way too often  :-[ ) ....when you say they are worn out...do you mean the socket heads are starting to get striped or rounded out
where you put the hex (allen) wrench? ...or do you see signs of stretching or some other abnormality?

Thanks.

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2018, 10:09:25 pm »
Right...the hex bolt is being rounded out by inappropriate use of the socket. I guess that means I suck at wrenching???
 :-[
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2018, 07:19:03 am »
Right...the hex bolt is being rounded out by inappropriate use of the socket.
OK, Thanks.

I guess that means I suck at wrenching???
 :-[
Could be, but it might be that your wrench manufacturer sucks at quality control.  ;D

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2018, 02:39:56 pm »
Could also be chocolate bolts/screws.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2018, 02:56:54 pm »
Thanks Poseidon, bolts are ordered!

Make sure you use anti-seize on those bolts! In all likely hood that's why there rounded out. They were seized up sometime earlier in the game.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2018, 10:30:02 am »
Make sure you use anti-seize on those bolts! In all likely hood that's why there rounded out. They were seized up sometime earlier in the game.

Though I agree to use anti-seize, that may not be why they were rounded. Mine were rounded by an idiot doing warranty replacement of my rotors. Every one of the bolts looked like torx head bolts when he was done using his impact wrench on them. It looks as if he simply didn't fully seat the bit.

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2018, 12:34:19 pm »
It looks as if he simply didn't fully seat the bit.

And/or used a poor quality bit or worn out bit.  Costco damaged many of my car's lug nuts by doing a similar crappy job when they installed my new tires.  No doubt, speed with over-powerful tools, and a lack of care were factors.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2018, 09:02:15 am »
I'm with lather on this, 3D-XM's for me. I've had 3 sets of the PR4's along with the 2's & 3's. To me each one was a downgrade from the previous model.

I just mounted my 38th set of tires on my C14. Yes I do spoon them on like Marty said. I'm by no means a expert I just never found it to be a big deal to do. Some quality spoons, my homemade bead breaker, box/crate to keep wheel off the floor & the yellow thing is all that's needed.

One thing I'll add to Marty's list is, lay the tires out in the sun for a while. I've done them stone cold in the winter & left them out in the sun for hours. Mounting a warm tire verses a cold tire is night & day difference.

I have loads of room to mount a changer, just never felt the need for one.

My neighbor is a dealer & I can use his air operated machine anytime I want at no cost. His shop is 15 miles away. I can be done quicker than I can make the 30 mile round trip.

I'm going back to PR2's after 2 sets of PR4 GT and non-GT. PR2's last longer with my riding style it seems, and it doesn't rain in SoCal very often.

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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2018, 10:19:12 am »
I think I am going to give the pr2 a shot. Will just slow down in the rain. Angel GT non A spec lasted 6000. BS 23 the same and  BS 30 or 31?? Lasted only 4000. This is rear tires. I got 11000 on the Angel and still running the 23 on the front.
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Re: Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2018, 06:22:39 pm »
I didn't realize they were still making the PR2. What prices are you seeing for them?
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