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Offline katata1100

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My mpg with mccruise
« on: July 09, 2018, 09:49:10 am »
Just got back from a trip. Going from Sacramento to Reno  , starting altitude a few hundred feet, saw a peak of around 7,000’, speed ranged from 65-80, mostly 70-75, fuel saving mode on, 91 oct e10 gas, mccruise used a lot, bike said I got 48.8 mpg.
Oh, an I-80 is a pretty beat up highway.
I think I get 2-3 mpg more with mccruise when slabbing it.

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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 03:27:22 pm »
That is not uncommon with cruise control, in general.  Maintaining a constant speed, without the over-twisting the throttle and adjustments, will save gas.  And in cruise control mode, you are nearly 100% passive with fuel use because you are (by definition) not doing anything "fun" :)

Interestingly, even though I don't have cruise, I do use the FEA mode when on "the slab" and that, too, puts one into a semi-passive mode, because it smooths out any interesting throttle input (in addition to leaning out the mix).  It seems I will gain around 5MPG using FEAM than without it, verified over several tests.  Makes my overall average of 42MPG to up to 47MPG with mixed usage including about 70% slab. 

When I check mileage in regular mode (reflashed ECU), in full "fun" mindset (unnecessary powerful acceleration, non-linear routes, etc),  it can plummet into the mid 30's!

(These checks are actual- based on gas put in and total mileage... not the computer-display estimates).
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 12:18:27 am »
Another cool thing about mccruise is that it keeps speed so stable that it makes instant mpg mode readable . Usually, it’s random numbers going up and down ,but with dead on speed control, the numbers are stable . Then you can do the next trick- flick between feam ( I’ll just call it eco) and regular ( which for me is shoodaben mountain tuning).
I traveled a total of 300 miles yesterday . First 30 miles very very twisty, did about 45 through redwoods, stopped once for gas, made it home with two bars left on gas gauge , 7 hour ride.
Here’s something I did to make it home faster- I have a spare key in gas tank cap, left it there, left a credit card in glove box. When I stop for fuel, just grab cc out of box, open the tank and I fill up. No more searching for my key fob, pressing that little release to get the key out, then looking for my wallet ( my joe rocket coat has lots of pockets ).
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 07:17:32 am »
I would need to tow my bike at least 60 miles to get 300 miles out of one tank of gas.  :rotflmao:
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 04:21:36 pm »
I would need to tow my bike at least 60 miles to get 300 miles out of one tank of gas.  :rotflmao:

I probably would need to, also.  Even at some of my best MPG, which requires using FEAM and almost all highway, I doubt I could get 300miles.  MAYBE if there was a tailwind most of the way? :)

300 miles = 50 MPG, assuming you could actually consume 6 entire gallons... quite an accomplishment on a powerful, large bike like the Concours 1400.
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2018, 10:15:16 pm »
It really is impressive . My jetted ‘91 katana 1100 couldn’t do much more than 42mpg on long trips.
If I have to drive a steady 55mph on level ground, I can see 51-53 mpg easy.
Windshield up or down for better mpg? With it down, less sail but more turbulence.
Again, cruise control helps- I have ridden with cc engaged, instant mpg on and moved the windshield up and down while watching the numbers.
So far, no clear winner.
Fwiw, I have a tall calsci screen.

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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 06:10:53 am »
You guys sound like a bunch of old men. Cruise control is so boring and mindless. And who gives a flying crap about gas mileage.  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey?  My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners. It sounds like yours has floorboards installed.
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 06:14:36 am »
who gives a flying crap about gas mileage.  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey?  My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners.

Honestly, I don't really give a crap about gas mileage, either.  Almost all my driving is for fun, and slow/steady isn't fun.  Except on the rare cases I am trying to extend what is left in the tank to make it to the next convenient stop.  To me, the best use of gas mileage is just as an occasional check on the health of the engine.
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 06:21:24 am »
Windshield up or down for better mpg? With it down, less sail but more turbulence.

Not easy to make a generalized statement about that, because there are far too many factors that affect exact aerodynamics such as (but not limited to), sitting height, arm length, bar height, body position, exact windscreen model, speeds being driven, air density, humidity, temperature, wind speeds,  tires, road condition, exact screen position, helmet design, any additions on the bike in the slip stream, what traffic is around, etc.  If you could hold many of those (and other) variables constant, it might be something you could experiment with... but that doesn't mean it would hold for anyone else, or even for yourself, except in those same conditions.

Seat-of-pants is:  If you feel less turbulence, you are likely more aerodynamic and thus more efficient.  But just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean it isn't somewhere else on the bike you don't feel it :)
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 08:33:11 am »
You guys sound like a bunch of old men. Cruise control is so boring and mindless. And who gives a flying crap about gas mileage.  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey?  My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners. It sounds like yours has floorboards installed.

No, I actually use the machine for it’s intended purpose; sport touring . As that , I’ve put in multiple days of 14+ hours per day. I don’t know if you’re aware, but out here in the West , one can encounter highways where you won’t see a gas station for at 60+ miles and I’d rather than be walking in BFE looking for a gas station in 100 degree heat. I also like to keep gas station stops down to a minimum as again, I’d rather ride. If you bought this big heavy bike to run five minute rides to the doughnut store, hey, that’s your perogative.
With some of the long desolate stretches out here, I see no joy or bravado in keeping a right wrist constantly cranked on the right grip instead of using cc. My arthritic hand thanked me.
Also, being that my most of my ride was in CA and it was around the fourth, keeping the speed locked
5mph above the speed limit saved my bacon as i passed many a hidden CHP or had them pass on other side of road.
Better mpg, less fuel stops ( which helps me cover more ground), less hand discomfort, less tickets, these are real benefits but I’ll admit they are mostly appreciated if the bike is used for its intended purpose- continental cruiser.
I’ll admit that my bike has similarities with a gold wing- I have blue tooth to listen to my iPhone and use it’s gps, a large tail trunk too, but again these bolster its ability for long distance touring. If you don’t do this, you bought the wrong bike.

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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 10:23:00 am »
You guys sound like a bunch of old men. Cruise control is so boring and mindless. And who gives a flying crap about gas mileage.  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey?  My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners. It sounds like yours has floorboards installed.
A bunch of us ARE old men. But I'm not interested in cruise control either.
My Connie does not drag in corners any more. Now that the feelers have ground away.
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 10:27:14 am »
You guys sound like a bunch of old men. Cruise control is so boring and mindless. And who gives a flying crap about gas mileage.  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey?  My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners. It sounds like yours has floorboards installed.

Good for you, mine does too here in Western PA and WV, but when I am on a long trip, where much of my riding is done, 800+mile days, good fuel mileage is a good thing. Lord, let people enjoy their bike the way they want to.

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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 07:23:07 pm »
You guys sound like a bunch of old men.
Most of us are.

  Was the Connie your choice because the Wings are too pricey? 
It was a factor for sure.

....who gives a flying crap about gas mileage. 
I do, because when I'm making good time I hate to stop just because I'm low on gas.

Cruise control is so boring and mindless.
My cruise control has saved me from more tickets than my radar detector has.

My Connie gets crossed up under power, and drags the ground around corners.
We are all duly impressed and proud of you.

....let people enjoy their bike the way they want to.
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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 10:33:18 pm »
Good for you, mine does too here in Western PA and WV, but when I am on a long trip, where much of my riding is done, 800+mile days, good fuel mileage is a good thing. Lord, let people enjoy their bike the way they want to.

Averaging 80 mph that's riding for 10+ hours each day. That's redonkulous.

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Re: My mpg with mccruise
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 01:30:06 am »
Averaging 80 mph that's riding for 10+ hours each day. That's redonkulous.

You can say THAT again!
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