Cracked frame at shock

[tbanzer]

As I've already said the bike has never been hauled on the center stand. Been hauled twice in it's life,first when purchased and second when taken to the dealership for these repairs. Both times restrained with no stands down and was using the Canyon Dancer System to secure the bike.

Sorry I though you bought the bike used.

[lather]

Sorry I though you bought the bike used.

He did buy it used:
"Bought it with 200 miles on it as a consignment from Plano Kawasaki."

[JhVenezuela]

Another Cracked Frame

Concours 2008  28,000 miles.
After an inspection,  i discovered this.
After read this post, IMO this have to be a MAMA Kawa problem

I'm not in USA and here in my country, we don't have Kawa Dealer,
but definitely i have to find the way to replace the frame.

Comments ...

[gPink]

damn JH.  looks like ebay if you can get someone to ship. good luck.

[route66tc]

I'd be sending an email to mama kaw asap.

[MAN OF BLUES]

Another Cracked Frame

Concours 2008  28,000 miles.
After an inspection,  i discovered this.
After read this post, IMO this have to be a MAMA Kawa problem

I'm not in USA and here in my country, we don't have Kawa Dealer,
but definitely i have to find the way to replace the frame.

Comments ...

ok.... don't start a panic....

your report is on an '08, (NOTE; I modified my response, and it is on the frame, sorry...) and looks like it WAS from some "abuse" of said bracket portion, like a fall, or over stressed/impact situation....

the original post here, WAS a frame issue, and a singular one at that, that had no explanation for it's occurrence... also it was on a 2013 model... not an '08...

so far we have seen no other repeat... and sooner or later, if this did happen to more than one bike... they would have ended up here "asking", (here also includes the actual COG forum, which I am watching daily also...)

so everyone cool out, go back and examine the original post/failure, and let this be something that can be accounted for as "different".....?

so the sky is not falling folks... chill....

[JhVenezuela]

ok.... don't start a panic....

your report is on an '08, and it isn't the "Main Frame", it's a bracket...kick stand bracket to clarify... and a replaceable part... not like a completed frame... and looks like it WAS from some "abuse" of said bracket, like a fall, or over stressed/impact situation....

the original post here, WAS a frame issue, and a singular one at that, that had no explanation for it's occurrence... also it was on a 2013 model... not an '08...

so far we have seen no other repeat... and sooner or later, if this did happen to more than one bike... they would have ended up here "asking", (here also includes the actual COG forum, which I am watching daily also...)

so everyone cool out, go back and examine the original post/failure, and let this be something that can be accounted for as "different".....

so the sky is not falling folks... chill....

Sorry, but that part has no bracket at all
Is the frame

[MAN OF BLUES]

Sorry, but that part has no bracket at all
Is the frame

yes... I corrected my post, sorry...

[Freddy]

What's the p/n of the failed part MOB?  Answered above I now see.

[route66tc]

My only reason for contacting mama kaw is to see if they would pay for it, not because it's the tip of the iceberg kind of thing.  Hopefully the kaw rep that deals with it would decide to cover it as a "policy adjustment".  They may or may not pay, but if'n that was mine, I wouldn't hesitate to ask.  Sometimes you get pleasantly surprised.  Also if you don't ask, there is no chance for reimbursement.

[MAN OF BLUES]

What's the p/n of the failed part MOB?  Answered above I now see.

the actual frame...

BUT....
one thing, and this is the kicker....
is seen in the photos... and cannot be hidden...

the dogbones used there are NOT the factory installed ones... those are aftermarket/home made/whatever....

I hold no credibility that it is on the fault of Kawasaki, of a frame fracture, resulting from a modified suspension "add on"... and for a fact, have always cautioned people about doing them...
semper fi.  caveate emptor....

[MAN OF BLUES]

here is the pic from the original issue... note the linkage...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=23720.msg296413#msg296413



now that aid, I cannot say for certain, he had not swapped his out for one from another kawasaki model (zx, etc.,) even if it was an OEM, but from a different bike... but I know the last person reporting this '08 breakage does NOT have OEM parts.

[maxtog]

the dogbones used there are NOT the factory installed ones... those are aftermarket/home made/whatever....

Notice this crack, too.  Speculation, but I don't think that would happen in that location from just the frame cracking from fatigue.  It looks more like some type of severe bottoming-out hit?  That could be consistent with being overly-lowered?  Or maybe it is just secondary as the weight shifted and caused other damage.

[MAN OF BLUES]

actually, from my visual comparison, the ones on the failed bike appear to be significantly shorter than OEM, which would render the bike sitting higher... and during "decompression stroke" of the shock, would render a "slide hammer effect" upon that bracket... kinda as it is seen, being broken "away/down" by that force.

but I can't just go on "visual measurements"... I can however go on "visual deviation of/from OEM parts used"...

[JhVenezuela]

Notice this crack, too.  Speculation, but I don't think that would happen in that location from just the frame cracking from fatigue.  It looks more like some type of severe bottoming-out hit?  That could be consistent with being overly-lowered?  Or maybe it is just secondary as the weight shifted and caused other damage.

Sorry again, but that is not a Crack.