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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2018, 07:55:32 pm »
So what's the go too battery? I think I am riding on borrowed time with mine.
Thinking I would like to stick with something I can source locally but open to suggestions. Jo
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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2018, 10:03:32 am »
So what's the go too battery? I think I am riding on borrowed time with mine.
Thinking I would like to stick with something I can source locally but open to suggestions. Jo

Sorta depends what you mean by "go too". If you mean "well this one sucks, and it has to go too" or if you mean which one do you folks all "go to". Yeah I'm being a smart ass.... ::) :P
...anyway, The original stock battery is a 14 AH battery but the vast majority of the replacements out there are 12 AH batteries. I called my dealer and they actually offered a 12AH and the original stock 14AH
versions. I went with the 14AH version as the price wasn't that bad in my opinion, but you'll need some battery expert on here to tell you if it's (2 AH difference) that important. I really don't know. What I do know is that if I was on a trip and my C14 wouldn't start I'd be kicking myself if I had purchased the 12AH battery (perhaps undeservedly so, but kick myself I'd do). The original is a Furukawa FTZ14-BS (14AH) and most of the replacements are Yuasa YTX14-BS (12AH).
I'm sure that most here have replaced their battery with the latter and have had no problems.
Good luck.  :thumbs:

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2018, 01:33:33 pm »
I guess I have enough go too the recycle batteries!  The prices are all similar. Just want something that wont let me down for a few years.
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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2018, 03:18:44 pm »
depending on climate, and ride frequency, it boils down to how much you want to spend, and if you believe in the manufacturers...
a lot of the 14AH batteries, that are noted as such, like the YTX14-BS, which is really the BS thing, as it's a 12AH unit, are in fact 12 AH, but that is only a factore of how it "stores" power, and the real point is "cold cranking AMPS", or, in reality... how much capacity does it have to "deliver" the stored amps. Plate designs and configurations, along with the chemical composition of modern batteries, vary greatly, some break down internally, some chemically, and most with a combo of both... charge/discharge cycles, and the use of battery "tenders", make it even more difficult to predict the true failure point, between "worked fine" to "dead as a door nail.."

I try to use good viable manufacturers, Exide has been pretty much a standard for "ok" and priced as such, but higher end AGM's, with Higher prices, may work better, or not, sometimes.
The cheapest 12AH, with 200CCA, seems the most realistic, it's all the bike "needs", but I always prefer a larger CCA rating (220, or above), when durability is the main key.

the more I look at the 14AH batts, the more I'm realizing the manufacturers have done a "sidestep", and are using this XXXX-14BS rating, more often as a specific "format SIZE" (physical dimensions), in lieu of actual capacity today... and really chincing out on the customers... giving a 12AH unit, packaged in what was always a 14AH package size... pretty cheesy in my opinion...


I've sent numerous e-mails to Odyssey, asking them to make a "package size" suited to be as we need, but have never had any luck with them accomodating it, with the size of the C14's "package", the Ody batt would be capable of over 240CCA/14AH easily.. they get that out of smaller batts currently, but the terminals are backwards... unfortunatly.

these cost, but seem fine....
 I do caution about the first one,a 16-BS, as the height excedes the "package" height
the rest are the correct size...

Xtreme AGM Battery for Kawasaki FTZ14BS Replacement
16-BS
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 230
Warranty: 12 Month Free Replacement
Weight: 12.05 lbs
Length: 5.938 in
Width: 3.438 in
Height: 6.375 in

Item Number: CYL10012
Brand: Duracell Ultra
Voltage: 12
Format: 14-BS
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 220
Warranty: 24 Month Free Replacement
Weight: 11.5 lbs
Length: 5.87 in
Width: 3.38 in
Height: 5.75 in


Item Number: CYL10001
Brand: Duracell Ultra
Voltage: 12
Format: 14-BS
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 220
Warranty: 24 Month Free Replacement
Weight: 11.5 lbs
Length: 5.87 in
Width: 3.38 in
Height: 5.75 in


Item Number: CYLA14BSXTA
Brand: Xtreme
Voltage: 12
Format: 14-BS
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 200
Warranty: 12 Month Free Replacement
Weight: 10.25 lbs
Length: 5.94 in
Width: 3.43 in
Height: 5.79 in

30 YEARS OF KAW.....

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2018, 05:03:16 pm »
There is no consensus on that (or little else for that matter).

I like the generic AGM batteries from Amazon, about $50 and they seem to work well. You can also get them at some battery stores if you want to buy locally but I have always just used Amazon (riding on a free Prime membership from work so shipping is free and 2nd day).

Brian

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2018, 05:08:04 pm »
I too am a big fan of Odyssey batteries but like you, never found one that would fit a C-14. If you did find one that meets requirements and is slightly smaller, you can use it even if 'backwards' on the terminals; just spin the battery 180 and put the terminals facing the other end of the bike (front or tail, I cannot remember where the stock battery ends up). We know there is more than enough length in the cables because many C-14 batteries have been installed backwards by dealers over the years.... successfully.

Brian


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I've sent numerous e-mails to Odyssey, asking them to make a "package size" suited to be as we need, but have never had any luck with them accomodating it, with the size of the C14's "package", the Ody batt would be capable of over 240CCA/14AH easily.. they get that out of smaller batts currently, but the terminals are backwards... unfortunatly.

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2018, 08:48:04 am »
Thanks guys. After reading reviews and looking at lots of batteries in a $50 to $120 range I have decided its a crap shoot! I will check some local sources and go with someone who will honor their warranty. I bought a AGM (brand escapes me) online . The company was great to deal with but the battery was crap. Went through 3 of them. Dont know how the fourth worked out because I sold the bike. That was way to much down time.

Thanks again for the info.

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2018, 01:38:37 pm »
Thanks guys. After reading reviews and looking at lots of batteries in a $50 to $120 range I have decided its a crap shoot!

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 :( but true.

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Re: Replaced Battery: Thanks for a good 8 years
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2018, 03:31:28 pm »
:( but true.

It is what I think, too.  Consumers got fed up with high battery prices and a flood of no-name and semi-name brands have flooded the market with questionable quality.  What were quality brands have mostly either disappeared, or started lowering THEIR quality to price compete.  So now it does seem like a crap shoot.  Even if you find something that works well NOW, there is no guarantee that same one will be around again next time, or that it is actually the same quality.
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