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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2019, 07:19:37 pm »
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2019, 07:30:08 pm »
I had/have no idea it was a rip off, but I have to say that with that bead that runs all around I would rather have the one I bought.
How do you know that this "rip off" company was not there first???
I'll say to you what i have already said here, good luck on figuring out who what where when and how a product comes to market.
I just buy what I want where i want and I will always try to by American. MRA is an over priced German product in my opinion and I have bought a lot of MRA products. One is posted right in this thread

actually, that "bead" is beneficial in 2 respects, and I like it from the perspectives;
it stiffens the product, and provides a stronger split free edge, while also forcing any water up against it till the "droplet" can be formed, and then flows away up and over the lip, in a controlled manner... nice touch. My Laminar Lip add on, does not have that, and as a result, torrential rain, simply waashes up and over into my face, and face shield... continuously...  I slipped a piece of clear sheet metal "edge guard material" from a bin at work, over the top edge to make that happen... worked well...
as for Gary, goading me on about FSM theft and such, I just consider the source, and know he's just jerking my chain... it's all good.

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2019, 09:21:41 pm »
the Chinese Ebay visor seems to be this upper visor shown with the windshield ... check the price !!!

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2019, 09:23:35 pm »
the Chinese Ebay visor seems to be this upper visor shown with the windshield ... check the price !!!

https://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-tour-windshield-for-kawasaki-concours-gtr1400-08-14

It's not, look at the third post it matches the one you have linked here. It was on my 09 c14

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2019, 04:42:41 am »
You know, I'm thinking out loud here..  It might be better to discuss the merits or deficiencies of knockoffs or copyright violations in a new post in the Open area rather than cluttering up this post with that debate.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2019, 04:51:06 am »
You know, I'm thinking out loud here..  It might be better to discuss the merits or deficiencies of knockoffs or copyright violations in a new post in the Open area rather than cluttering up this post with that debate.

I get it, sometimes I wonder why I even bother to post. I thought I would share what I found but like most forums I usually just get trolled to death over something completely unrelated...I just don't get it.

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2019, 04:53:02 am »
Yeah, it's the same everywhere and in every forum I'm in.  You must endeavour to endure.  ;) :)
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2019, 08:30:02 am »
Yeah, you missed it somehow?
This is a blow up of one of the pictures from the link in the second post. Looks like a rim to me???



Yes it does, I went out and "looked" at mine again this time using the braille method of looking and and this time I "saw" the rim. Mine is on the inside and it wasn't visible with a quick glance from the front or side at least not on the tinted version. I'm not sure it's all that ugly, but then I hardly ever wash my bike so I'm probably not one to listen to when it comes to windshield aesthetics.
Thanks for the clarification Gabriel.  :thumbs:

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2019, 05:03:10 pm »
Gabriel: Thanks for the informative post, I need something exactly like that for my Yamaha Scooter. Don’t want to pay an arm & leg, so this might be just right.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2019, 05:05:43 pm »
Gabriel: Thanks for the informative post, I need something exactly like that for my Yamaha Scooter. Don’t want to pay an arm & leg, so this might be just right.
It's really cheap right now, I may buy a spare?

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 09:09:06 am »
Thanks for the info Gabriel.
This appears to be the clamp on version of the MRA X-creen.
You did good on the price.

For my C-14; I have a MRA Vario Shield and love it.
For my C-10: I bought just the {bolt on} hinges for a MRA Vario windshield and built the deflector.
                        I paid more for the hinges than you paid for the entire deflector...

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2019, 12:41:25 pm »
GABRIEL:

Thanks for the heads-up on this product. I have a Yamaha Majesty scooter with a Givi after-market windscreen that routed all the wind right in my face. I couldn’t ride with my face shield up, and with it down the wind noise was tremendous. Even though the seller said it wasn’t designed for my scoot I decided to try it anyway. Received it two weeks after ordering. It's is a little on the flimsy side, but is made of ABS and was easy to attach.
It really did the trick!! Only needed a couple inches more height and it really quieted the ride. I’d have never found it without your post.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2019, 12:58:54 pm »
Good, glad it worked out for you guys that bought one.
I did not notice it being flimsy, but it sure works good for me.
Before I installed it if I tried to ride with my helmet shield up it would blow closed at about 50 mph, this was while i had the windscreen at a height where i was just looking over the top of it. Now looking just over the top of this visor it no longer does that.
For me these visors are an absolute must...  :thumbs:

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2019, 03:13:43 pm »
I think they are the bee's knees (at least the MRA, this is likely to be the same).  I don't think they are flimsy, although at first I thought the strange joints would fail....  Nope.  4 years and many thousands of miles later, it still works perfectly.  What it DOES do, however, is make the entire windscreen heavier and a more wobbly (it is a considerable amount of weight and force, and way up high as a lever).  So far that hasn't caused any issues, but I do wonder if it puts more stress on the windscreen attachments.

It is just that extra bit of adjustment and placement that seems to really enhance the whole experience.  It works much better than raising the existing stock windscreen to the same height, probably because it is offset and can have a different angle.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2019, 03:50:38 pm »
No need to wonder Max, it absolutely does put more strain on the windshield mechanism and mounting.  ;D  I have been running a CalSci 6+ with an MRA visor (for around 10" higher than first Gen. C-14 stock windshield height) since '07. It has survived all this time and miles but I do put my hand on the windshield and help 'steady it' (brace it actually) when I pass a large truck on the highway; the blast from the side when passing both ends of a large truck is enough to rattle my teeth and plays hell with the taller windshield. Other than that, it has been fine at all speeds and under all conditions, at least for me.

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I think they are the bee's knees (at least the MRA, this is likely to be the same).  I don't think they are flimsy, although at first I thought the strange joints would fail....  Nope.  4 years and many thousands of miles later, it still works perfectly.  What it DOES do, however, is make the entire windscreen heavier and a more wobbly (it is a considerable amount of weight and force, and way up high as a lever).  So far that hasn't caused any issues, but I do wonder if it puts more stress on the windscreen attachments.

It is just that extra bit of adjustment and placement that seems to really enhance the whole experience.  It works much better than raising the existing stock windscreen to the same height, probably because it is offset and can have a different angle.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2019, 08:37:04 pm »
It has survived all this time and miles but I do put my hand on the windshield and help 'steady it' (brace it actually) when I pass a large truck on the highway

I admit to doing the same.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2019, 09:39:05 pm »
That can't be the safest way to pass a truck (hand holding top of screen). Why don't you reinforce the sliding yoke at the base of the screen?
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2019, 10:33:07 pm »
I never hold mine, it moves some but I don't care. In my case it doesn't hurt anything.

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2019, 05:59:10 am »
I never hold mine, it moves some but I don't care. In my case it doesn't hurt anything.


The issue isn't that you can tell now that it hurts something, but that over time the accumulated stress could cause cracks/fractures/distortions/wear/weaknesses that will eventually cause a slow or catastrophic failure in the bracket(s).  Although far from common, we have seen such failures posted.  Yet we have no direct evidence as to the exact cause (could be a flaw in the part, or accumulated stress, or something the owner did), it is reasonable to speculate that it is more likely with lifetime stress/vibration, and/or with heavier/larger screens, and/or with higher (raised) operation.  Like most things on modern vehicles, it was designed with certain operational parameters in mind and might not have a lot of leeway for adding additional stresses.

Failure is expensive because the part(s) is/are expensive.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18687.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22901
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20193.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22134
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2019, 08:38:08 am »
The issue isn't that you can tell now that it hurts something, but that over time the accumulated stress could cause cracks/fractures/distortions/wear/weaknesses that will eventually cause a slow or catastrophic failure in the bracket(s).  Although far from common, we have seen such failures posted.  Yet we have no direct evidence as to the exact cause (could be a flaw in the part, or accumulated stress, or something the owner did), it is reasonable to speculate that it is more likely with lifetime stress/vibration, and/or with heavier/larger screens, and/or with higher (raised) operation.  Like most things on modern vehicles, it was designed with certain operational parameters in mind and might not have a lot of leeway for adding additional stresses.

Failure is expensive because the part(s) is/are expensive.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18687.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22901
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20193.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22134


Could, would, might, maybe. If you don't mind I'm not going to worry about it, why, because i'm on my third (3) C14 with this visor and have not experienced a issue yet. However I don't ride at really high speeds
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