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Offline connie_rider

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 09:09:06 am »
Thanks for the info Gabriel.
This appears to be the clamp on version of the MRA X-creen.
You did good on the price.

For my C-14; I have a MRA Vario Shield and love it.
For my C-10: I bought just the {bolt on} hinges for a MRA Vario windshield and built the deflector.
                        I paid more for the hinges than you paid for the entire deflector...

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2019, 12:41:25 pm »
GABRIEL:

Thanks for the heads-up on this product. I have a Yamaha Majesty scooter with a Givi after-market windscreen that routed all the wind right in my face. I couldn’t ride with my face shield up, and with it down the wind noise was tremendous. Even though the seller said it wasn’t designed for my scoot I decided to try it anyway. Received it two weeks after ordering. It's is a little on the flimsy side, but is made of ABS and was easy to attach.
It really did the trick!! Only needed a couple inches more height and it really quieted the ride. I’d have never found it without your post.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2019, 12:58:54 pm »
Good, glad it worked out for you guys that bought one.
I did not notice it being flimsy, but it sure works good for me.
Before I installed it if I tried to ride with my helmet shield up it would blow closed at about 50 mph, this was while i had the windscreen at a height where i was just looking over the top of it. Now looking just over the top of this visor it no longer does that.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2019, 03:13:43 pm »
I think they are the bee's knees (at least the MRA, this is likely to be the same).  I don't think they are flimsy, although at first I thought the strange joints would fail....  Nope.  4 years and many thousands of miles later, it still works perfectly.  What it DOES do, however, is make the entire windscreen heavier and a more wobbly (it is a considerable amount of weight and force, and way up high as a lever).  So far that hasn't caused any issues, but I do wonder if it puts more stress on the windscreen attachments.

It is just that extra bit of adjustment and placement that seems to really enhance the whole experience.  It works much better than raising the existing stock windscreen to the same height, probably because it is offset and can have a different angle.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2019, 03:50:38 pm »
No need to wonder Max, it absolutely does put more strain on the windshield mechanism and mounting.  ;D  I have been running a CalSci 6+ with an MRA visor (for around 10" higher than first Gen. C-14 stock windshield height) since '07. It has survived all this time and miles but I do put my hand on the windshield and help 'steady it' (brace it actually) when I pass a large truck on the highway; the blast from the side when passing both ends of a large truck is enough to rattle my teeth and plays hell with the taller windshield. Other than that, it has been fine at all speeds and under all conditions, at least for me.

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I think they are the bee's knees (at least the MRA, this is likely to be the same).  I don't think they are flimsy, although at first I thought the strange joints would fail....  Nope.  4 years and many thousands of miles later, it still works perfectly.  What it DOES do, however, is make the entire windscreen heavier and a more wobbly (it is a considerable amount of weight and force, and way up high as a lever).  So far that hasn't caused any issues, but I do wonder if it puts more stress on the windscreen attachments.

It is just that extra bit of adjustment and placement that seems to really enhance the whole experience.  It works much better than raising the existing stock windscreen to the same height, probably because it is offset and can have a different angle.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2019, 08:37:04 pm »
It has survived all this time and miles but I do put my hand on the windshield and help 'steady it' (brace it actually) when I pass a large truck on the highway

I admit to doing the same.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2019, 09:39:05 pm »
That can't be the safest way to pass a truck (hand holding top of screen). Why don't you reinforce the sliding yoke at the base of the screen?
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2019, 10:33:07 pm »
I never hold mine, it moves some but I don't care. In my case it doesn't hurt anything.

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2019, 05:59:10 am »
I never hold mine, it moves some but I don't care. In my case it doesn't hurt anything.


The issue isn't that you can tell now that it hurts something, but that over time the accumulated stress could cause cracks/fractures/distortions/wear/weaknesses that will eventually cause a slow or catastrophic failure in the bracket(s).  Although far from common, we have seen such failures posted.  Yet we have no direct evidence as to the exact cause (could be a flaw in the part, or accumulated stress, or something the owner did), it is reasonable to speculate that it is more likely with lifetime stress/vibration, and/or with heavier/larger screens, and/or with higher (raised) operation.  Like most things on modern vehicles, it was designed with certain operational parameters in mind and might not have a lot of leeway for adding additional stresses.

Failure is expensive because the part(s) is/are expensive.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18687.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22901
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20193.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22134
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2019, 08:38:08 am »
The issue isn't that you can tell now that it hurts something, but that over time the accumulated stress could cause cracks/fractures/distortions/wear/weaknesses that will eventually cause a slow or catastrophic failure in the bracket(s).  Although far from common, we have seen such failures posted.  Yet we have no direct evidence as to the exact cause (could be a flaw in the part, or accumulated stress, or something the owner did), it is reasonable to speculate that it is more likely with lifetime stress/vibration, and/or with heavier/larger screens, and/or with higher (raised) operation.  Like most things on modern vehicles, it was designed with certain operational parameters in mind and might not have a lot of leeway for adding additional stresses.

Failure is expensive because the part(s) is/are expensive.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18687.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22901
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=20193.0
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22134


Could, would, might, maybe. If you don't mind I'm not going to worry about it, why, because i'm on my third (3) C14 with this visor and have not experienced a issue yet. However I don't ride at really high speeds
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2019, 12:47:40 pm »
I’ve had more time behind my deflector and like it even more. It wasn’t the best choice of words to call it flimsy, I would have made the plastic “hardware” a little thicker but it’s probably not needed. My Givi tall screen is as flexible as newspaper so it is more of the “flimsy” description I used. Made some adjustments and it appears to do exactly what I needed.
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2019, 02:38:02 pm »
There are so many different positions I think it will take a while to discover which position is best...

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2019, 03:35:00 pm »
No post has needed an 'Easy Boys!' more than this one...... :-)

Brian

There are so many different positions I think it will take a while to discover which position is best...
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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2019, 04:00:27 pm »
No post has needed an 'Easy Boys!' more than this one...... :-)

Brian
It never crossed my mind! Seek help soon... ;D

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Re: Windshield deflector
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2019, 04:51:05 pm »
There are so many different positions I think it will take a while to discover which position is best...

Brian's kidding aside....

Yep, there are lots and lots of ways you can position the deflector with regards to tilt, height, and projection.  Interestingly, after experimenting for years, it seems like I only need a few positions that generally work perfectly for the majority of riding conditions.  I actually typically keep mine rather low and just adjust the tilt- top forward for less air and backward tilt for less.

About the only time I ever raise the height of the deflector is when I am using it with my cut-down main windscreen and there is a sudden/unexpected cold snap and raising the screen high doesn't help enough (and/or lets too much air under the main screen).
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