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Offline BrianK

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2019, 05:37:52 pm »
2009 13k miles and yes stuck in FSS position. The only thing that happened when I first tried to turn key was the red blinking light came on so if you consider that waking up then yes bike woke up. Key comes right out but will not turn one iota

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2019, 05:42:33 pm »
While I was doing the work the battery was never disconnected and remained on my Motobatt trickle charger

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2019, 05:44:33 pm »
I found a couple used ignition switch assemblies but none come with their fob is it easy for me to program my fobs to a new switch?

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2019, 05:49:36 pm »
I found a couple used ignition switch assemblies but none come with their fob is it easy for me to program my fobs to a new switch?

before deciding on buying stuff... slow down, and work thru this... OK???????

when was the last time you started the bike, immediately prior to this occurrence.?
and.... what were you working on during this time?

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2019, 05:50:07 pm »
Also my switch has gotten stuck before like 2 or 3 times but each time it was only for a minute or so of jiggling it so I thought maybe it was just a user error type of thing not realizing this is an issue so I guess you could say my bike has a history of this wish I knew I would of addressed this already

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2019, 05:52:33 pm »
Also my switch has gotten stuck before like 2 or 3 times but each time it was only for a minute or so of jiggling it so I thought maybe it was just a user error type of thing not realizing this is an issue so I guess you could say my bike has a history of this wish I knew I would of addressed this already
Road the bike about a month ago. Changed tires, clutch, brakes, rotors, brake lines, clutch line, coolant, oil, air filter, oil filter and rebuilt calipers

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2019, 05:54:36 pm »
Also my switch has gotten stuck before like 2 or 3 times but each time it was only for a minute or so of jiggling it so I thought maybe it was just a user error type of thing not realizing this is an issue so I guess you could say my bike has a history of this wish I knew I would of addressed this already

just answer the questions, please....
and having the switch stick a couple times helps, but is not the total picture here... what was being worked on....?
and when did it start last... immediately prior to this.????

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2019, 05:57:20 pm »
Road the bike about a month ago. Changed tires, clutch, brakes, rotors, brake lines, clutch line, coolant, oil, air filter, oil filter and rebuilt calipers

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2019, 06:00:51 pm »
Road the bike about a month ago. Changed tires, clutch, brakes, rotors, brake lines, clutch line, coolant, oil, air filter, oil filter and rebuilt calipers


OK, it's been on the charger a month... remove the charger, remove the battery, abrasively clean every connection point, including the connection on the frame, and all terminal connectors on cables, and the battery terminals... make them shiney, and use sandpaper... while the battery is out, squirt some WD40 in the key lock, insert the key and rap it a couple times with a rubber mallet, don't bash it, just rap it a couple times, then attempt to turn it back CCW while jiggling it... re-install the cables, and repeat this...
both pressing down on the key, and pulling up lightly as you attempt to turn it....
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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2019, 06:04:21 pm »

OK, it's been on the charger a month... remove the charger, remove the battery, abrasively clean every connection point, including the connection on the frame, and all terminal connectors on cables, and the battery terminals... make them shiney, and use sandpaper... while the battery is out, squirt some WD40 in the key lock, insert the key and rap it a couple times with a rubber mallet, don't bash it, just rap it a couple times, then attempt to turn it back CCW while jiggling it... re-install the cables, and repeat this...
both pressing down on the key, and pulling up lightly as you attempt to turn it....
I'll be back...
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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2019, 06:31:57 pm »
when you do the WD40 spray thing, also focus on the area of the ring/recess that the "knob" fits into on the housing when the key is removed, over by the 9 0'clock position, of the plate below when the key is removed... this is the location for the "activation" microswitch, and should be somewhat douched liberally with the spray, so it drains down and release the microswitch inner plunger...
I say this because I think it may be stuck, in a partially depressed and actuated position, as the lights and power should not really come on when you attempt to switch from RSS to On...
do that and again rap on the inserted key, this is the "K-Rock" thing that is eluded to, also pressing down on the key, and slipping your finger off, letting it "bounce" upwards also does a similar "jarring" of the actuator.

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2019, 06:56:35 pm »
Did everything as instructed and the only difference being, which I think is a positive is I held my fob up to switch and now the bike truly wakes up when I push down.  The dash lights and the stove knob insignia mocks me but still zero movement. I guess my fob battery is dead......

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2019, 07:51:10 pm »
Ok well both my thumbs and pointer fingers are rubbed raw from hours of trying to turn that stupid stove knob I have to pack it in for the night it's almost 10pm here.  Thanks for all the help and unfortunately the knob never gave any indication that it was going to turn at all.  Wd40 and a rubber mallet didn't help. I didn't overdo anything so I'm confident I didn't add to the issue and my battery connections are a lot cleaner and shinier than they were before so hey at least that's a win.  Anyone has any other ideas please please please chime in I'll be back at this madness tomorrow evening :thumbdown

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2019, 08:02:43 pm »
2009 13k miles and yes stuck in FSS position. The only thing that happened when I first tried to turn key was the red blinking light came on so if you consider that waking up then yes bike woke up. Key comes right out but will not turn one iota

You are not really answering my question. for sure  If the bike knob is in either lock or fss, when you press down on the knob when the active fob is in range, the bike should "wake up" for a few seconds, you should see the display turn on.  Is that happening?  Or does nothing happen when you press the knob down?

If nothing happens, then you most likely either have the classic spring issue with the switch being stuck OR the ignition/computer is not getting adequate power OR the active fob is out of range or dead.   You can't turn the key if the bike doesn't wake first (either from fss or off/lock).

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Re: Key stuck
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2019, 08:05:57 pm »
Yes bike wakes up,  it wasn't at first then when it did I thought for millisecond yay fixed but unfortunately no such luck so I am miffed right about now...