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Offline wtaylorc14

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Clutch question
« on: January 18, 2019, 01:25:11 pm »
Hey folks!
I have a 2008 ABS thatI purchased back in August with 32k on it.. It's my daily driver.  Had zero issues with it.  Changed my coolant, brakes, tires, oil back in Nov and Dec.  Smoothest shifting bike that I have ever owned.  Rode cross town to drop off a birthday gift for my sister and halfway back, I just have half my clutch lever.  Not running or shifting right at all.  I get it home. Check clutch fluid.  Full, and looks good.  Take it around the block and runs like it always has.  Thoughts?  I appreciate it!
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 01:35:02 pm »
When's the last time you changed the clutch fluid?
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 01:35:29 pm »
That is typically caused by having air in the hydraulic lines.  Have you replaced the clutch fluid recently?
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2019, 01:36:25 pm »
Didn't I just say that?   :rotflmao:
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 01:39:02 pm »
When's the last time you changed the clutch fluid?

I have not.  Bleeding anything stresses me out for some reason.  Probably because I don't quite get it.  It needs bleeding probably.  Gotta just suck it up I suppose!
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2019, 01:52:47 pm »
Well don't drink the fluid that comes out.  It's not good for you.


The clutch can be troublesome to bleed and get all the air out assuming air is in it.  Some have success, some don't and have to use a pressure bleeder.


While you're at it do the brakes as well.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2019, 01:57:32 pm »
The biggest hassle in bleeding the clutch is that to get good access to the bleeder valve you have to take off some plastic on the left side of the bike. Be sure to cover nearby paint and plastic parts when you do the job because a drop of misplaced brake/clutch fluid will stain them.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2019, 02:23:34 pm »
And don't forget the bleeder next to the clutch master.  Do that last.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2019, 03:25:31 pm »
Didn't I just say that?   :rotflmao:

Yeah, too funny.  We were both typing at the same time and posted seconds apart.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2019, 03:30:14 pm »
The clutch can be troublesome to bleed and get all the air out assuming air is in it.  Some have success, some don't and have to use a pressure bleeder.

I was lucky... it seems when I changed it, I must have not gotten any air in and everything went fine.  I didn't use a power bleeder, just one of those "speed bleeder" valve things.  Motionpro.

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While you're at it do the brakes as well.

Yes, here comes the irony in ME saying so as well (being it took me, what, 7 years to get to it).  But if you don't know when it was last changed, it would be a good thing to do.

The biggest hassle in bleeding the clutch is that to get good access to the bleeder valve you have to take off some plastic on the left side of the bike.

Agreed.  Seems like a stupid place to put the slave bleeder; a little change of angle/direction would have made it much easier.  I think I actually managed to get to it without removing the plastics, but it was very difficult.
 
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Be sure to cover nearby paint and plastic parts when you do the job because a drop of misplaced brake/clutch fluid will stain them.

You should have seen mine- I covered everything with plastic and then towels :)
Brake fluid is nasty stuff on paint AND plastics.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 03:39:12 pm »
The master is susceptible to the fluid return hole getting dirt in it and will act as yours did. Be sure to clean it, too.
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2019, 09:20:14 am »
It seems to be working OK now.. but I am sure its trash in the fluid.  Anyone know of a video online that shows the entire bleeding process on THIS bike, not a general video?  I have the manual and other printed directions but I generally cannot do things that way.. need to see it done.. reading about it doesn't click.  Hoping to get it done by Tuesday as I have to ride 70 miles each way to work and not looking forward to rolling the dice it won't happen again. Thanks
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2019, 09:59:00 am »
I know Fred has DVD videos for sale which detail just about everything including brake/clutch fluid... http://www.angelridevideos.com/concours.html

Not sure if I've seen any YT video on this particular procedure on the C14 but the DVDs are super helpful and don't need to be online. :) 


It seems to be working OK now.. but I am sure its trash in the fluid.  Anyone know of a video online that shows the entire bleeding process on THIS bike, not a general video?  I have the manual and other printed directions but I generally cannot do things that way.. need to see it done.. reading about it doesn't click.  Hoping to get it done by Tuesday as I have to ride 70 miles each way to work and not looking forward to rolling the dice it won't happen again. Thanks

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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2019, 11:05:52 am »
I know Fred has DVD videos for sale which detail just about everything including brake/clutch fluid... http://www.angelridevideos.com/concours.html

Not sure if I've seen any YT video on this particular procedure on the C14 but the DVDs are super helpful and don't need to be online. :)


Those look good!  May have to just pray it doesn't happen again and buy those the end of February.  Those would be definitely helpful.  Hopefully it won't happen again and I can get those and maybe do a full bleed and replace first of March. Thanks!
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Re: Clutch question
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2019, 04:41:40 pm »
another good option, would be to fill out your information and location data on your profile, and then, canvass the forum for someone that may live near you, to assist you and guide you thru the process...you might find that someone with great knowledge lives 5 miles from you... much more gratifying, and effective, having someone that has done this procedure standing there explaining what/why/how, and able to answer your immediate questions during said process... not to mention you get to meet interesting people, who may or may not have specific tools used for making the job a simpler, and more affordable experience...

It's kind of a COG thing many of us do, and promote, just because we all been thru the pain before in making stuff work.

best of luck,

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