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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2019, 08:13:30 am »


a for "small hole" plugs... I've simply laid the plug on the ground(on a rag), and stuck my pocket knife in the middle of the long rope, and slit it lengthwise...between the strands.. viola... skinny rope gummy plug.. goober it, and install it.. done...

I like that idea! I have a smaller insert tool (easy boys) that I could use with those.Thanks
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2019, 09:56:30 am »
in defense of the "kit" you note, without glue, reamer/rasp/insert er... those are just PLUGS... they sell them seperatly... because people that use them, just want plug's and glue... they have the tools.. why add on another $5 when plugs just cost $2.50.. duh.

I was referring to the kits with the either the T handle insert tool or the screwdriver handle insert tool and ropes (without glue and without rasp) not simply a sticky rope "refill" just plugs package. OH  nevermind...I'm sorry I brought it up. Duh..

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2019, 03:48:37 pm »
I was referring to the kits with the either the T handle insert tool or the screwdriver handle insert tool and ropes (without glue and without rasp) not simply a sticky rope "refill" just plugs package. OH  nevermind...I'm sorry I brought it up. Duh..

I apologize Marty, I didn't mean you had Velcro shoes....
and I have seen the kit you mention, but commonly I see the full kits, extra spares of glue, and plugs, and other stuff all "racked together"...

The person I directed to about velcro shoes (because he actually WAS wearing some) was the father of an office girl, where I worked, the girl seemed to be in distress in the parking lot, so I rode over on my bike as I was leaving, and asked if she needed "help"... she hit a broken pallet on the road, and punctured both tires on the passenger side of her new Mustang..
Just then, dad showed up, pulled out a "home made Air Tank" (20# old propane bottle), and a plug kit... (full kit like mine) proceded to jamb dry plug in a tire, then emptied the tank trying to fill the tire (nowhere near enough air in tank to start...)  then poured some water over the plug, and it was bubblin' out air...

he had the glue sitting right there... he insisted "you don't have to use the glue... I never do".. then he stomped on the glue tube in defiance... in his velcro sneakers... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :nuts: :nuts: :doh:

I opened my side bag, pulled out my pump and handed the girl the plug for the lighter, and while she was doing that, prepped a plug, and inserted it with glue... and did the front tire also... in like 5 minutes flat... dad walked around picking up gravel on his freshly glued shoe...
She was very happy, and wanted to pay me.. I just handed her the "backing card" from the "kit" and told her to stop at the Autozone, pick up a kit just like that, and put it in her trunk, and pick up the "spare plug/glue" refill kit for me...

Next day, she brought over the "kit" I asked for, and 2 dozen KrispyKreem donuts... wooo hooo..... :P :P :P :P

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2019, 08:35:54 pm »
I don't use the glue on my sticky ropes. I think I tried once and there were issues with it staying in place when I aired up the tire. It's been a while, so I don't remember exactly the issue. Regardless, it takes some pressure to get them in place, but I am a dry inserter!

I'm proud to be the seemingly current record holder with the number of plugs in one tire! I'll wait by the mailbox for my prize ;D

As for the difference in color of sticky rope, I've never even looked. I have used black, brown, and red. They all seem the same to me. Now I'm curious...
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2019, 07:37:48 pm »
Got a nail some where in California in my rear tire and the bike shops and tire stores in Sacramento wouldn't patch it.  Went to a used tire store and 5 minutes and $5 later it had rope plug in and aired up.  Rode back to Texas the next two days worried about having issues.  When I got back home I replaced the tire and tried to pull the plug out with pliers from the inside and couldn't do it, plug wasn't going anywhere.  I have no issues with rope plugs.           
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2019, 12:41:04 pm »
I'm going to be 'that guy'...I'm almost 45 and have been plugging tires since I was a teenager. Not once have I ever had a plug fail or had a tire issue related to a plug install.  I have also had nail/screws in close proximity to the sidewall, but as has been said, if it's in the tread, go for it. Just like anything else in life, with plugs, you need to use common sense and prep/install properly. My last PR4GT rear had nearly 15k miles on it and 5 plugs. Yep, 5. Two of which were there since the first month it was installed. A job I just recently left was in close proximity to a recycle scrap yard. It was very common to see people pulled over with flat tires within a mile or so of that place.

Glad to hear.  I recently plugged my rear PR4GT which has maybe 4k miles left, so now I have the confidence to just keep it until it's worn out.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2019, 08:07:20 am »
I'm going to be 'that guy'...I'm almost 45 and have been plugging tires since I was a teenager. Not once hav.  e I ever had a plug fail or had a tire issue related to a plug install.  I have also had nail/screws in close proximity to the sidewall, but as has been said, if it's in the tread, go for it. Just like anything else in life, with plugs, you need to use common sense and prep/install properly. My last PR4GT rear had nearly 15k miles on it and 5 plugs. Yep, 5. Two of which were there since the first month it was installed. A job I just recently left was in close proximity to a recycle scrap yard. It was very common to see people pulled over with flat tires within a mile or so of that place.

Please tell us your technique for plugging tires - solid plug, gummy worms, how much do you ream the hole, how much glue, etc , etc.


OK, So I went on line and watched some YouTube videos on tire plugging.   Some used glue and some didn't, BTW.  I think I will use glue - why not ?  Also watched one where the plug/patch was inserted from inside.   That looks like the best way for a "permanent" repair, although some guy by the name of Arie said he plugged a tire with a worm and then rode across the country without a problem.  And others said their worm plugs lasted until the tire wore out and was replaced.   I think I'll check the glue in my patch kits in both my bikes, soon.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2019, 03:25:40 pm »
OK, So I went on line and watched some YouTube videos on tire plugging.   Some used glue and some didn't, BTW.  I think I will use glue - why not ?

If I were, I would, too

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Also watched one where the plug/patch was inserted from inside.   That looks like the best way for a "permanent" repair

That is a patch, not a plug.  And, applied correctly, it is, indeed, permanent and the "best" way.  Of course, it is a LOT more work- it requires removing the wheel, then the tire, cleaning it, roughing it, glue and patch, then remounting tire, rebalancing the wheel, and remounting the wheel.  Whew.

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, although some guy by the name of Arie said he plugged a tire with a worm and then rode across the country without a problem.  And others said their worm plugs lasted until the tire wore out and was replaced.

Many people have posted that a properly applied and glued plug will last the life of the tire.  I don't doubt it, although it is still not as certain as a patch.

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I think I'll check the glue in my patch [plug?] kits in both my bikes, soon.

My many, many-year-old, never-used/opened plug kit has glue that might be solid as a rock :)  I think I pressed on it several months ago and it was squishy.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2019, 04:57:27 pm »
I rode a plugged rear tyre halfway round Australia, and at speeds of over 200 kilometres an hour. It was only a few weeks old when it was plugged, but it lasted the full life of the tyre. If the worm is applied properly (we use glue) it should never give any trouble.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2019, 06:14:54 pm »
Welcome to the forum, Michelle. What are you riding?
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2019, 05:34:37 am »
I'm guessing of course, but I suspect a motorcycle.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2019, 07:09:14 am »
I'm guessing of course, but I suspect a motorcycle.
Not just any motorcycle. A Neutron Silver one.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2019, 07:27:03 am »
Of course, it is the fastest colour.
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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2019, 01:45:02 pm »
Old glue is still good, and I bought some quality worm plugs and a small tube of glue in a kit, just for S&G's.

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Re: Screw near the side of my 3 week old tire... possible to plug?
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2019, 04:16:59 pm »
I'm guessing of course, but I suspect a motorcycle.
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Not just any motorcycle. A Neutron Silver one.
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