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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2019, 05:12:00 pm »
I'm still not positive the metal thing is all encompassing, I think the actual regulator sits below it, and the metal part is basically a check valve, with a pressure regulating spring..(no part number associated with it in the picture) I dunno, didn't spend enough time when I had it all disassembled to really mess with the plastic part.. (item #3)

Mind you, this is a "generic" picture of a Kaw pump, actually the same pump, but the float level stuff is from the "Mule" ATV model.


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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2019, 06:16:08 pm »
I'm still not positive the metal thing is all encompassing, I think the actual regulator sits below it, and the metal part is basically a check valve, with a pressure regulating spring..(no part number associated with it in the picture) I dunno, didn't spend enough time when I had it all disassembled to really mess with the plastic part.. (item #3)

Mind you, this is a "generic" picture of a Kaw pump, actually the same pump, but the float level stuff is from the "Mule" ATV model.



It's the bottom unit of #9.
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2019, 07:45:12 pm »
Man Of Blues; where did you get the diagram? Got a parts list?
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Re: Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2019, 01:01:16 pm »
HERE is a link to another aftermarket replacement pump, a couple guys on the other forum have actually purchased, and ran them, and had nothing bad to say about them at all..that same place sells the filter socks for 3 for $14

https://www.highflowfuel.com/i-23443610-quantum-t35-intank-fuel-pump-with-strainers-for-kawasaki-concours-14-zg1400-2008-2018.html

It's from the link I posted on page 2.

it does not break the parts down with actual "numbers"...
and unfortunately neither does Kaw on the OEM Microfiche.. so, it's tough to break out individual parts.

I'm pretty sure tho, a I have seen a photo of the OEM "filter rebuild kit", on a Kaw "parts" supplier website,(not the actual Kaw site) that each part comes in it's own bag,and is labeled, and is grouped together and supplied in a larger bag, as "the kit", meaning the o-rings, filter element, replacement screws.  I just replaced my filter, so I'm not going to spend the $70 for a kit to "supply individual numbers", maybe when someone buys one, they can post up what each part in that kit is marked as.

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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2019, 12:58:29 pm »
It's the bottom unit of #9.

The metal piece of item #9 is the fuel pressure regulator. It also acts as a check valve to prevent fuel from draining out of the line back into the tank. Any pressure above the regulated psi is relieved back into the housing. Item #3 is just a spacer passage from the pump motor to upper cap which is a pressurized chamber.
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2019, 12:02:24 am »
Here are pics of the fuel pump reassembly. Be careful during disassembly because the O-rings don't want to let go of the upper cap & parts my go airborne.. Pry on both sides evenly. I replaced the fuel pump motor, filter & pressure regulator. The stock pump is still good and I'll keep it as back up.
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2019, 09:41:20 am »
speedracersworld, congrats on the successful repair.
I enjoyed talking with you.

Was surprising that your fuel pump regulator failed. Think that is the first one that I've heard of.
But your step by step finally found the solution. I are impressed...

Keep us posted when/if you check out the old pump/etc in the future.

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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2019, 02:53:48 pm »
speedracersworld, congrats on the successful repair.
I enjoyed talking with you.



Was surprising that your fuel pump regulator failed. Think that is the first one that I've heard of.
But your step by step finally found the solution. I are impressed...

Keep us posted when/if you check out the old pump/etc in the future.

Ride safe, Ted

Good talking to you also. Will keep you all updated on the aftermarket fuel pump assembly swap. Just filled my tank last night and that'll last me a week or I may just drain & swap it this weekend. Wife's car blew a radiator hose so that's the priority then the bike.
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2019, 09:46:27 am »
FYI for future reference these kits work as direct replacements for the C14 also. Comes with everything. Had to over night one to a hotel in Utah last year. Great pump and lifetime warranty too. You would be suprised how many different bikes and machines use these same exact pumps acrodd all brands.
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-4010-49040-0719-49040-0718-49019-0013/dp/B00S0I64ZE/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=HFP-386+brute+force&qid=1565710905&s=automotive&sr=1-4

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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2019, 11:34:04 am »
Great information from everyone!  :finger_fing11:
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2019, 03:31:21 pm »
FYI for future reference these kits work as direct replacements for the C14 also. Comes with everything. Had to over night one to a hotel in Utah last year. Great pump and lifetime warranty too. You would be suprised how many different bikes and machines use these same exact pumps acrodd all brands.
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-4010-49040-0719-49040-0718-49019-0013/dp/B00S0I64ZE/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=HFP-386+brute+force&qid=1565710905&s=automotive&sr=1-4

Ya, it seems like the pump motor is the same even off my 06 636. One manufacturer making them for Most Bikes. Great info, suggestions & feedback! Thanks.
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2019, 04:56:02 pm »
so, maybe posting this and all vendor info for these, into a "sticky" spot here on C14 parts and availability, where I posted the ones I found, might enlarge the database, and give people many places to get good priced fixemups..

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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2019, 05:37:16 pm »
so, maybe posting this and all vendor info for these, into a "sticky" spot here on C14 parts and availability, where I posted the ones I found, might enlarge the database, and give people many places to get good priced fixemups..

Great Idea!! Do it please!
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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2019, 06:36:55 pm »
I'll leave that up to you.
sorry, I have to sleep now..

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Re: SOLVED!! Severe Bog & Surging on 08 Concours 14 Solved!!
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2019, 10:27:32 am »
Way to go, dUDE! 8)
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