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Offline SVonhof

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Difficulty shifting this morning
« on: October 03, 2019, 07:35:06 am »
I rode in to work today and when I was coming to a stop sign leaving my house and downshifting, it was difficult to get it into 2nd gear from 3rd. Shifted up just fine, but it did it again as I got closer to the highway. Then, as I was waiting for the light to turn, I noticed the RPM's were a little low (bike was in 1st and I had the clutch pulled in). A slight release of the clutch killed the engine. Re-started and it took off fine and I had no issues the rest of the ride.

I have had times in the past where even with the clutch lever pulled all the way back, the engine is still catching the gears slightly (clutch plates grabbing). The clutch engagement is right at the beginning of the lever pull and has been the way since I got the bike.

I am close to being due for an oil change. The clutch fluid has been bled and replaced (~2 years ago?).

Thoughts?
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 08:17:40 am »
Sounds to be clutch related, not gear problem.
I would suggest a fresh clutch fluid change.
But, someone recently reported a broken star spring on a C-14.
So, that might be a possibility to consider.

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Offline SVonhof

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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 09:30:37 am »
In the past, the difficulty shifting has come after a long day of riding and the bike sits overnight. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it, but it seems to go hand-in-hand.

The issue this morning though, seems slightly different as the last ride was just a normal commute ride (45 miles), not a few hundred.

I am at 42,000 miles now. Most miles I have ever put on a bike as the others get sold by around 30k and I move on. I am still very happy with the Concours.
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 05:52:16 pm »
No issues coming home. I will report back if it happens again.
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 05:27:54 pm »
How old is the bike? how many miles? sounds almost like your clutch slave is sticking.hard to say . I think you should flush the fluid and go from there.

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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 06:41:25 pm »
2009 with 42k miles on it. Replaced and flushed clutch fluid 10k miles ago.
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 03:31:22 pm »
Rode the bike in yesterday and had the same issue. With the bike in first, clutch lever pulled all the way to the bar, I hit the starter button and the bike lunged forward and basically stalled. Put the bike in neutral and hit it and it fired right up.

Once I was moving I didn't have any issues. Maybe the slave cylinder as strum says? I have never dealt with an issue like this, so I really don't know.
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 04:57:20 pm »
My clutch has acted up when the the master had foreign material partially blocking the return bleed hole.
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 05:09:23 pm »
My clutch has acted up when the the master had foreign material partially blocking the return bleed hole.
Agreed.. 2 years ago?   That would be the simplest and the first thing to do.. flush and replace all the brake and clutch  lines and look at the color of the old  fluid. It has nothing to do with how many miles. It has to do with time and 2 years  is the recommended maintenance period.  Might also be time for a Master kit. 2009 is over 10 years old now.
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 05:58:42 pm »
Thanks guys.
Scott
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Re: Difficulty shifting this morning
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:56:02 am »
I would also adjust your tick over to around, 1100 RPM  ;)   
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